where yall going?

i'm all for establishing a self-suficient community, but where? Will you still buy shit from the outside?

what state? what will you do about normies?

are you gonna pay taxes?

there will be normies....already in the existing town

well already oregon is off the map, state income tax

washington has none

that's unrealistic. the best idea is for everyone to set up internet businesses and collect money that way. then funnel it into the community.

what i'm getting at - 100% off the grid will take a very long time. in the meantime cash will make up the difference.

no bank - bitcoin my man

^^

agree

crypto can be used for barter and SHTF emergencies

polygamy or nah

welcome to the future:
https://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-using-satellites-beam-bitcoin-earth/

what i'm getting at - these discussions have to happen. all of these things should be planned out BEFORE mass movement

I'm 100% onboard with creating a community, but right now we are nowhere near

the socratic method is essential for projects like this

barter should be encouraged of course

@thatdudeiscool yes buddy

truth is we will need SOME manufactured goods. case in point - guns. no matter how self sufficient, it will be for the greater good to take a small percent from "the outside"

I disagree and will be bringing 3 wives to /pol/istan

either way - there are two things needed on a personal level before moving.
1. cash
2. wife

what are yall doing to achieve both

bro...i'm just bored on saturday trying to have some conversation

oh yeah i agree....for inter-community trades barter is best. BUT sometimes a perfect trade doesn't exist. let's say I do electrical work that costs $100. you sell potatoes for $1. What am I gonna do, take 100 potatoes for services? Goofy example but you get the point. This is when currency is useful.

@thatdudeiscool right - and a contract would solve that

for example a doctor could set up contracts with everyone in town. "I will be your on-call doctor if you provide me with xyz..."

or helping people who don't deserve treatment

agree

my life turned upside down the first time i REALLY paid taxes

made $70k right out of school, something like $20k of that went to taxes

it's one thing to pay it over the year, but when you see that number printed out for you to read, holy shit. i'm paying for someone's life.

some disrespectful welfare piece of shit

what you mean?

true

i struggle with that

it seems most industries are getting some form of government kickback

interesting

yeah we're schizophrenic

preach it @Orchid

one of my main concerns with going offgrid is the woman. unless there's kids involved, she always has the option to pack up and leave. just like amish/mormon culture, there's a small percent that ditch

if shit really HTF worldwide then it's different, she'll have to stay for protection, but if not it'll be tempting

when i get married i'm poppin babies in that bitch every 9 months

lol!

idk what you're asking.....but buying a house is a bad idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9qb1Nhw4A

tl;dr - would you put a giant amount of your portfolio into a high risk investment such as a house? no

watch shkreli's vid....i know a lot of people think they know where the market's heading, but i don't believe that. i also don't want to waste my time researching all that crap. i would rather put my money into something I kno

Know, love, and believe in....bitcion

*bitcoin lol

bingo

i can get out of bitcoin....right now. a house? good luck

unless you're 100% ready to live in that house...FOREVER....bad idea. if you're in it to make money...no way

@thatdudeiscool what do you do for work?

@Orchid held here right?

guns are good

has anyone done dna testing? what were the results and what did you learn

i'm some kind of white american irish mutt

it seems like a waste of money

100% go

unless you have a million other things to do (like me)

or are broke (like me)

i was thinking about funerals the other day

my grandparents are all gonna die in the next 2-3 years

i barely see them

if they die today, i would immediately hop on a plane and go see them.

how messed up is that? I'll take the time out of my day, pay for an overpriced ticket, to go see their dead body, but won't do the same for their living body?

@Roman Dreams exactly what i'm saying my dude

i should be able to make it, might be at the gym tho

just pounded some kratom...gotta do work

herb 😉

haha

kratom is legal

it's nice

go on

@StaysafeTV - 191 lb Muscle Man yes it's probably that. there's a ton of ex addicts online who use kratom moderately with great results

im in utah right now. close enough.

opiate crisis is real

@StaysafeTV - 191 lb Muscle Man why do you think that is. how do people get into it

i've only met one person, it was a girl, she had depression and started taking them to cope. she's much better now and takes kratom with success

utah has a lot of advantages.

what's the reasoning behind PNW? any agriculture experts here?

I'd say texas but fuck what crops are you gonna grow

fuck

you're in hs?

lol

ram3n added to people not to take seriously

queers are the worst

"can you even be arrested for killing illegal immigrants considering they're all criminals 🤔"

THIS

I watched InfoWar's "Strategic Relocation" movie. Pretty much everywhere you go has distinct environmental dangers. Earthquake, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.

The best places are PNW and Utah.

Utah specifically is good becuase if SHTF, people have to climb mountains to get there. I love Texas, but if SHTF there's millions of beaners who can walk to my ranch from Houston/Mexico/wherever

smdh

California is cancer

step by step guys

lets focus on stopping immigration first, then cleansing the nation

how to make affordable deportation
1. Rewards - give taxpayer money BACK to the people who turn illegals in.
2. Self deportation - offer that same reward for anyone who leaves