tbh I think we need a big economic/social collapse. wake up call. help people realize what is truly important in life...

true that!

and the best slaves are the ones who think they are free

no need to worry too much about a future collapse. focus more on seeking truth. that might be more valuable

maybe esp flat earth

it can serve as a truth filter

esp if there is any future alien deception "event"

knowing there is no "space" or planets flying around in other galaxies = no green men from said galaxies

doesn't exist

lol

no they didn't

we've never landed on a "quasar" ergo....anything based on celestial bodies....is based on an image

a light

planets are not solid objects.

not even our moon

it's not real

this is where we live

anything viewed in the sky....is like looking at the ceiling of a giant planetarium

we've never left

we can't

most likely water

the firmament "separates the waters from the waters"

but we cannot confirm by experimentation atm. or at least, the general public hasn't

but it's easy to infer it must be there...whether "space" is water....or....1x10^-17 torr

if it's the latter....we wouldn't have any gases or liquids here

2nd law

no

and even the moon is not a solid object.

which would explain a lot

it's a light....self-illuminating

both are

Genesis 1

it's the most scientifically and historically accurate book ever written. and that coming from a PhD scientist and former atheist of over 30yrs

I don't think Earth is flat because I believe in God. I believe in God because I found out Earth is flat

and realized evolution is impossible

by simple math and thermodynamics

I had all the knowledge to figure these out 30yrs ago

but was so indoctrinated like we all are....

cognitive dissonance

pride

Good morning @Drewski4343

so stars have been observed through the moon. documented since 1700s...even by the royal academy of astronomy. some pics even available online now

the appearance of the moon during the day is not commensurate with a solid ball

then there is the lack of evidence.

e.g. it's clear the moon landings were faked....

but one could imagine a reason why at that time.

but doesn't explain why everything stopped...nobody followed.

and we have nothing there. no cameras. no telescopes. no rovers. no lunar tourism....

if you see the moon image in a high end planetarium, you can see craters...shadows...the things look so darn real today

ask any professional artist what the moon should look like if illuminated by a light source

it never matches what we see

lastly.....it is has been observed by others that moonlight cools objects. the opposite of sunlight. but I'm taking that with a grain of salt until I do the experiment myself here in Switzerland with 3 other PhD colleagues

as a double blind study

in other words moonlight literally cools things

so an object in the moonlight will be cooler than an object in the shade of moonlight

and the numbers I've seen are impessive

we're not talking 0.01 degrees. but on the order of 4 to 5 degrees

but I need to verify for myself

yes

have you seen those moon lamps that actually have phases?

If not I'll have to go find an image. it's the best visual I think

ok. will see if I can find one. brb

https://stuffs.cool/moonphase-lamp-this-lamp-displays-the-phases-of-the-moon-in-real-time/

just imagine a shade that rotates inside a lamp

with bulb in center

probably not hard to make actually

well if it's not solid then it's even easier

it's just a projection

I don't personally believe it's solid. no

in that situation it's even easier

that's what people are trying to find out. Crow777 has probably done the best work.

he is the first one to observe the "lunar wave"

which looks like a refresh bar moving across the moon. very cool

^^

yes. since then a dozen other people have observed it in other countries

give me NASAs $20 billion annual budget...and I guarantee I can answer all our questions 😉

I could create a serious R&D program and figure all this out

BINGO

so it doesn't bother me that we don't have all the answers atm

that's what it means to "hold ambiguity"

you have to comfortable not knowing all the answers

can't let it block you

^^^^^

true that

the (((people))) responsible for the deception are NOT stupid

also they know to build in red herrings to distract

e.g. 9/11 with the whole "thermite" thing

right

covers everything now

it's very daunting

yup

YES

they are thinking on the order of decades...even hundreds of years

e.g. if you look at the predictive programming for 9/11 it literally goes back 30yrs or more

they were planning that while it was being built

yes

it's hard for us to appreciate that kind of patience...esp in our instant gratification society

omg. I never realized that