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fhtagn
Running on two hours sleep right now
yea
I guess
I am off today
first time I have been off on a Friday beginning a Congress
in over a year
I might do that after twelve
Just declared for Speaker
While I appreciate any attempts to help sway voters, remember The Saints words last night. High Ethical standards must be followed when doing so
He is my top choice for Deputy Speaker
I am going to try once again to track activity in a public thread
this time it won't be in my office, where no one reads it
it will be its own thread
Just putting this out there, Queen Victoria liked dogs
π
So has anyone noticed the Amendment to the Return Education to the Regions bill
Where House members failed to read title and first line and fall over themselves to try and find ever more requirements to add to the curriculum mandate
Welcome Back Centralist Consensus, Previously residing in Nyman 2004-2016
Between this and gutting the paygo rule we just passed
We seem to be retrograding back, to the previous paradigm
What do you mean
Well keep in mind we used to keep track of far more amendments
it is just that people have gotten extremely lazy
Basicalyl the way we kept it organized back then
was if it was actually pending, it would say amendmetn offerred
What are you referring to specially, the bill I linked above?
The whole bill is an amendment to the bill you signed
To that bill, there have since been several amendments
pushing to expand the number of required subjects
Basically, Wxtransit, is reposting his amendment to satisfy each new request or point
I would say revised but I am going to treat the final offered text as a new amendment
different from the first one he offered
Exactly
Because once you load up the requirements, section 3 has to go
since you need the staff back to administer it
And knowing this Congress they will likely keep the grants, add back the staff and say who cares when it comes to deficit π
lol
You know the irony here is
our debt was much lower pre-reset
Because taxes were far figher, much earlier
It was about 12 Trillion
But taxes were ridiclous
60% top rate
and that was a moderate position
JCL was called extreme for pushing for 45%
yes
Of coruse TNF was pushing for 90%
And it was set at 50% for a while
but sbane and I grudingly conceded to 60% because we care about debt
I think only Maxwell voted no on that 60% rate
ironic now
same as RL yes
well RL 2016
I wish he had given break downs for each line of text
each bracket I mean
Its possible
We also need to find some ways to raise more revenue for healthcare
I have some questions about that estimate
for instance
Mediciad has to funding sources
Federal and state
Is the state portions being included or not in their estimates
The other rather thing we could address budget wise is Social Security, though not immediately a big driver of the deficit
That explains the shortfall then
or at least most of it
States account for 37% of Medicaid spending on average
So then it is not the shortfall
I was talking about the revenue side
You see we are already beneath RL
Medicare and Medicaid alone are
1.2 Trillion in RL
Sp healthcare is under by about $200 billion
hmm
WE are going to need to do a bill to on the Medicaid situation
Here is the problem
the budget is acting as if both the Spending and revenue still occurs at the state level
as if nothing had changed
But Medicaid doesnt' exist
anymore
So what is that money going to
Abolished Medicaid
and incorporated it into the subsidy
So the entire cost of Mediciad is borne through the subsidy at the federal level
and the federal expense list should include both portions
Our deficit is thus worse than what the GM department says
We need to find a way to transfer that state revenue to the federal level to cover the state portion presently not included
that 39%
is about $234 billion
which is the same amount that the deficit is undervalued by
1,134 Trillion
or somewhere around there
The good news is this is funded
the money is just sitting in the wrong place
We have to find a way to get that money kicked up to the federal level
Either with regional agreements,
or with them cutting the taxes that pay for it and us enacting them federally
That gets us back to $900 billion
Then we come up with the rest of the shortfall presently in healthcare
which appears to be about $200 billion
so $700 billion deficit
yes
We also need to get the mistake fixed in the BPC
Actually after the mediaid portion is fixed, we need $131 billion exactly
and healthcare will be fully funded
leaving $769 billion in deficit from other programs
Basically same as RL
minus the tax cut bill in December
Keep in mind Lumine is going to fight us on defense spending cuts in the Senate
he is now litterally
John McCain
I was just reading some information about that as well
obviously
Regardless PUP will compare us to Paul Ryan
It puts a smile on my face realizing just how much Federalists are like Walter Jones.
It is not Paul Ryan fiscal conservatism, it is more blue dog fiscal conservatism combined with Walter Jones' foreign policy
We rely on the opposition to make this fun though
and that was the problem in 2017
Late Labor was just too passive
Considring you kind of succeeded each other
π
Also RIP seat number 9
Fed March 2017- Mar 2018
Well technically not always Fed since Dereich was Indy
Yes
Its the Never seat
on paper
Funny thing is they once attacked us for "accumlating titles etc"
yet when it comes to Speakership
that was basically Never
Reminds of Duke's line criticizing the the old DA as a "Party of Disconnted Malcontents", right as I was trying to get them to like us, this was leaked
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
lol
by Hamilton using NiK's account
one of the people he would have been referring to is Tmth
That was in late 2009
some things don't change, they just evolve with time
You would have likely been one of the LNF
back then
the party PiT tried to cut a deal with, only to have it leaked
More likely
you would have been a foot soldier in Adam's Cottonfield
in 2012/2013
And then a facility of Rimjob in June 2013
facilitor
This should seriously have an Atlasian Wiki article
Pacific Gov't is nonexistant
Emergency elections are held
cabal of people from #atlasforum is elected as a majority
they pass a "fourth constitution" allowing them to amend the cosntitution by majority vote
they then amend the region's gov't out of existance
two days before June Presidential election
Labor by 2 votes
It almost cost them the election
Because it was a Labor/Liberal ticket
but Liberals began defecting
since well they were ones being overthrown by a combination of NMAM, Labor and Atlasforum Indies
National Movement Aliya Mustafina
lol
It goes back to the JCP era
there had always been a group on the left who hated bgwah
most were based out of the Midwest
and they formed a series of parties to protest the dominance of the JCP
the Liberals inherited this hatred
NMAM was merely the 2012-2013 outburtst of this anti-establishment leftism
Well ironically it is because thE JCP disrupted the ability of this group to dominate elections
Also like those who were against Labor in 2017
Labor got its start very much as a leftist populist rebellion to the JCP turned Liberal dominance
and then Labor essentially became the same thing
by 2017
Not that I recall
IT was in January I think, right the first OMG we are losing Mom scare around the 25th
DTC still bothers me because of his sudden departure followed by militant opposition
Keep something else in mind about these dynamics
there is an ideological factor
JCP was more socially liberal and is dissdent leftists were more socialsit and leftwing
The Federalists are deeply engrained in regionalism,
the RPP and Feds have had dissident voices
cricizing them and some times working against them
Winfield almost singledhandedly defeated Duke by not cross preferencing him against Snowguy
in Oct 2011
There was the DR in 2013/2014, which was a libertarian opposition party
There typically is at least one faction on the right that the feds cannot completely satisfy
In 2013 and 2014, it was libertarians
in 2015 it was Lumine and Cris
That is also nothing new
Horse Takes up Painting
Leipist National Front
Silly Party
Though most of them were more left than not, there have always been parties that were "not serious"
or "memers" as weould call them today
lol dfw
yea right
Also NMAM would be on that list since post 2012 Olypmics that was a big meme
Threads in History/Trends board: "When did Fhtagn and DFW switch places/platforms"
Yes
it was the cool thing to shit on the America team and this was before muh Russia evil
I actually ran against Hashy in June 2013
for Senate
This debate is another example: basically everybody is agreeing with one another, or if they're not, they don't engage with one another. What purpose does this serve? Yeah, none.
Nobody is going to read some verbal diarrhea on a topic totally irrelevant to the real problems facing Atlasia. Only the Mustafinist-Komovists propose solutions to those problems.
The Senate has become the equivalent of Spain's Parliament prior to 1923, dominated by the pernicious cycles of the turno pacΓfico. Moderate heroes rule the Senate, and they ensure that nothing remotely noteworthy gets done. As long as this is the case, Atlasia is hopelessly hosed up.
vote for the Mustafinist-Komovists is a message to the political caste that some people are fed up with this endless cycle of politicking, petty squabbling, moderate heroism and useless crap which destroys Atlasia. The Mustafinist-Komovists stand for a Revolution.
Trump is idiosyncratic. Like Morden is often repeating himself. Trump doesn't understand ideology, he thinks the same way a low information voter does
combined with a paternalistic outlook
It is a shame no one else said yes to running in Lincoln
Wulfric is just too divisive
Reminds me of Foucaulf's campaign
Attacked Federalists and then assumed they would vote for him to stop Griffin
he was wrong
I tried Vern but he wasn't able to
I didn't contact him
Well it is a little late to try a write in
but we clearly should have run someone
Is that even possible
He lost dkrolga and Not Madigan
and Mike88
Pghsteal is invalid no?
A lot of these people did not vote in February
the remaining ones I mean
I think he might get 5 or 6 more votes
so yea a closer margin
I miss the cadre of PA Republicans
Keystone PHil
Supersoulty
etc
I have never changed my avatar since I joined the site in August 2008
yes
Vern had one for a while
Tb78
before he switched to indy
also the infamous Vanderblubb
blubb was famous for changing his avatar and display name to match other posters and tricking people into thinking they were them in spoof threads
And Jewish conservative
infamous for the line "Tossup/tilt Gay"
taft4prez was another
Duke alternated between R-SC and R-NC depending on when he was at Wake Forest or home in Charleston
I support a paper, but I would be concerned about comparisons to Fox News
Adam's Laborinth was a serious partisan press
very different from the questioner
For instance, Adam tanked a proposal for a Liberal/Fed ticket
by exposing it in the paper
My worry with the fox news comparison is that it will instantly be disregarded
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