according to their position we don't need to pump the population numbers up

so I can't really use this as an argument

also I disagree

I am an individualist

I believe that the only violations of individualism we should allow are those aimed at preserving it

...however, pumping up the numbers actually may be necessary to preserve individualism in this case

so I dunno

yeah that's what I believe too

but isn't thisbcause of society?

(which, by the way, we live in, bottom text)

Yep.

But the opposite side's arguement was that 1) each idividual human doesn't need reproduction and 2) we already have more kids that we need

Yes ^

This, basically

According to them, since outside of homophobic society being gay isn't a disadvantage, we shouldn't treat being gay as such

guys

I have a question

what does the bible have to say on trans people

as in

is there such a passage

but like

who is a man and who is a woman

if trans women aren't women then straight trans women are gay

where does the bible say that

i'm not saying it doesn't I just need the chapter number

5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.

but

it doesn't explain what does "woman" mean

is there any proof?

i need proof

yeah I need the biblical definition of man and woman

this is mental hymnastics tbh

Can I get a verde?

thank you very much

the only true authority on religion is jeb

also it wasn't me who was asking for sources

it were the trans people in another server

and my internet connection is barely enough for using discord

nah

they're chill so I'm trying to be chill too

they aren't offended by such stuff

and they also aren't mtfs

well the discussion was specificially about the bible's view

it's not like any of them were christians anyway

what is degeneracy and why is it bad?

why?

as in, what exactly is it?

For example?

Theft and murder would fall under this definition of degeneracy too.

@Fitzydog define homosexuality

how exactly does it harm the community?

thank you big ron very cool

I think I didn't understand the yesterday's explanation.

I repeat my question: what exactly makes homosexual marriage bad?

@Tero why?

Why do you use such a definition?

So what?

It wasn't for love, but now it is.

What's so bad about it?

Nah I know that it was never like that

But the world's changed.

If we can make people happier by something we almost don't have to spend additional resources on, why not do it?

Well, more productive if you wanna

Well gay people who are forced to do what they don't want to do ajd what the despise are gonna be less productive members of society don't you think?

Why though?

This is true, but gay couples can adopt, thus helping raise children who lost their parents.

Some scientists theoretise that this is the reason for gay people existing.

Biological reason, that is.

Why not?

What's wrong with that?

And what's wrong with it?

There is no proof that gay couples are worse parents than straight couples.

Please show me any statistics that proves that gay people are statistically worse parents than straight people.

Ah yes, emotional manipulation. Turns out not only commies do it.

I expected serious answers and everything I'm getting is memes.

Also, trans people =! gay people.

They have little in common.

Where is proof?

I need proof, Mr. Adolf.

Source?

Hm.

Thanks, I'll give it a look.

That's what I asked for.

Thank you guys.

@Son of Rome Most of them are biased.

Like that assosiation of psychiatricians

Forgot how it's called

Anyways thank you guys, I'm gonna ask gays what do they think about this

Oof, where is this from?

I can't acess it :(

I know about sci-hub.

But for some reason I can't acess it right now.

I'll try again later tho

Perhaps with a VPN

"Can't access the site"

ERR_CONNECTION_RESET

Telles me to check my internet connection

Doesn't work

I think it might have something to do eith me being in Russia

I remember there was some kind of a controversy about russian-scihub relations