The entirety of western and northern europe are dickless cucks

you do know their economy is dependent on Euro cash

Once eastern europe falls , the rest of europe will as well

And euro fuel is prodomenantly reliant on russia

Hmm

we can get that from arabs

Most arab nations are allied with the russians

they have no sources of income outside of gas

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki so this?

no

Yep

Syria and Iran is

The rest are tenative allies of the us

1 of those isn't even arab

If the us is neutral they will be as well

wow one arab ally

yea

so they will sell us oil

again

And russia has a fleet

get fucked

Russia would have no chance of getting beyond Ukraine and Belarus

suuure

well

that was a nice autistic conversation

Lmao

Yes it was, autist

Cause you dont think they already have a shadow gov in ukraine

Russians?

in Ukraine?

do you know anything about Ukraine?

Do you know anything period?

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You dont remember the conflict not long ago?

oh you mean Donbas government?

that state that controls like 5% of Ukraine?

You know the conflicts that are the only reason we even have sanctions on russia. That harm its economy. That if the us became fully isolationist would vanish

you know Russians don't have shadow government in Ukraine?

they have some separatists that run around 2 cities in eastern Ukraine

Donetsk and luhansk

You also believe the massivly undermanned, undertrained, and underequipped armies of western europe are strong.

Sooo

> Frech army is bad

you truly are a master of geopolitics

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its eu now

the EU army is not a thing though

Each country retains the control of their military

exactly

I have "trained" with most of them, and fought with others. Yea... i personally saw their 'strength'

For nkw

@Capitán Alatriste

The french army doctrine hasn't changed
It's just that they extended maginot from baltic to black

Eu wants to change that

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki enlisted right?

hopefully it dies before it can create an army

I'd rather it didn't die

Yep

The European states are stronger together in a Union, than alone

we can switch to Norway model or western Europeans can fuck off

@Capitán Alatriste are you actually spanish?

You mean germany is <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

yes @Deleted User

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Norway model relies to much on 1 resource. They are already freaking from the fears of the oil running out and replacing that major export

I mean their relation with EU

I don't think we will find oil

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki be a *real* shame is something would happen to that oil

Lmao

You know how much Norway has to pay to be in the common markets?

I think they need freedom

Norway has a far better deal than we have

Norway depends on the EU for most of it's exports

You know how much they would save with individual deals

alternatively we can leave and let westeros kill itself

or at least Germany

Germany collapsing is my wet dream

Norway is only where it's at because of its oil, without it its lands are pretty much worthless, with limited natural resources

If germany collapses, the eu goes with it

France cant burden it themselves

Germany gained to much of a central power.

Germany's economic growth was mostly due to their swift dealing of the 2008 recession

Before it, they enjoyed quite a meagre growth when the rest of the world was booming

Germany implemented extremely radical Fiscal policy at the outset of the crisis, with huge government intervention

Even with no control of the money supply and other monetary tools, it was able to avoid the plunge

And once the European markets collapsed, it was Germany that supplied them with manufactured goods, which only helped grow the economy

Ergo supporting the collapsed and in some cases still collapsed nations

If germany collapsed say tomorrow. No other nation or group of member nations could pic it up. More so with brexit removing the 3rd largest market

Is this still going on? lol

Not really

It morphed into the eu as a whole and what if germany crashed

Oh, gotcha

Ruskies removed

France probably couldn't keep the current size of the EU

they would probably kick out East Europeans

even then they would have the problem of Euro

and with it the eternal Greeks

And italians

And spains wishy washyness