i dont get your point

@Mips I take france's model

YES THEY FUCKING WILL

if you're a citizen of that nation, you are a national of that nation

You are asian? This is how you seem to identify

the governement doesnt provide our rights

we do

with muh guns

You mean when the brits tried taking your guns?

most governments take guns these days

yeah thats a shame

thankfully america is the exception

UKIP might allow guns tho

I don't think they will

they want *home protection*

UKIP is also pro socialist healthcare

Most countries don't have school shootings

@M4Gunner Isnt that how it is today? except its biggest influence on johnny law wins

@Mips probably a lie

@AiarUther nah

regardless, guns save more lives than they take

@Mips Fuck school shootings

done

I want self protection

Finland had one a few years back

Laxed gunlaws

thats why we arm teachers

okay prove that it was laxed gunlaws that allowed it

I ain't proving shit, it's your kids, not mine

Mostly what are peoples politics here?

classical liberal?

or rad-centrist

?

@Mips I'm convinced you're just trolling anyway

@AiarUther not about guncontrol, it's a valid solution

I don't believe you

He was a socialist, vegetarian, artist and animal lover.
Brilliant speaker.
Created universal health care.
Granted an unrestricted access to education for all.
Gave housing to homeless.
Crearted jobs to combat unemployment.
Passed strict gun control laws.
Improved infrastructure beyond the standards of the day.
Guess who it was.

adolf hitler

The devil

Noam Chompmyassky

strict gun laws usually precede an authoritarian dictator

Perfect SJW idol

@Mips what would convince you that gun control is bad?

No @AiarUther He has the burden of proof

Other noteworthy thing he did was task the propaganda with popularising scientists and bringing them into a celebrity status for their acheivements

@AiarUther nothing, really

It worked wonders for german war engineering

@Mips so if I could demonstrate it makes society demonstrably worse in every conceivable way, you'd still support gun control.

But they fucking dom't

if they did

would you change your mind?

sorry m8 uve got the burden of proof if u think gun control is good

No, you're talking hypotheticals

and imagine the hypothetical

are you incapable of holding that thought in your mind?

the possibility that you're wrong

I won't entertain retardism

@AiarUther Thats a horrible argument. We are talking about pragmatics and u wanna talk imagination?

so you're pretty much a religious zealot

THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON HIM

CHILL

U dont have anything to prove

@AsianMessiah also this isn't the early 2000s

you have a whole keyboard

type out "you" properly

Are you gonna talk about keyboards or how your argument is ridiculous?

One is a more extreme crime than another

OI VEY

I'm offering criticism, it's up to him to use it or not

lovely

but I'm pretty much done ever talking to you, Forrest, I don't believe you're not trolling.

All of your arguments are fucking retarded.

Gun control is not effective at acheiving the goals politicians claim they should solve: overall crime does not drop, criminals still get guns, police is not enough to protect citizens

Why are you "Disproving" gun control?

I am only for gun regulation to a certain extent. Like car license thing

@Uksio not even that

The burden of proof is on whoever wants Gun control

as I don't trust a government not to use a regulation to take away gun rights

The core issue of crime is poverty and misery

and I never will

Not guns, not drugs, not whateverthefuckelse

Just dont violate the NAP and you'll be fine

I'm probably less concerned about drugs

as guns are important for a population to be able to resist the government

I never used drugs. I tried weed twice and it was not even enjoyable.

there are 80 million gun owners

I am still for legalising all drugs and regulatimng them like we do regulate morphine.

the army is outnumbered 80 to 1

That takes away the money from drug cartels

DO

NOT

REGULATE

can you faggots move over to <#372513679964635138> ?

the free market can regulate drugs, uksio

Shut up ancap, your utopia never worked and never will

You centrist fags

^

@Uksio How the fuck is it utopian?

> never happened

Lo siento para mi paralabras