and the German school system had mandatory YEARS of Holocaust study and concentration camp tours

you don't know shit

dude you are clueless hitler offered peace to churchill several times and the details of his final peace offer to Churchill are still protected under the British Official Secrets act, which was due to become public in 2017, but which has been extended for another unprecedented twenty years.

>and the German school system had mandatory YEARS of Holocaust study and concentration camp tours

the offer he made was for him to keep all the gains he made in his blitzkrieg

implying this is an argument

it seems this never happened guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland lol

first something he tried to make come true forcefully with Edward the eigth's help

and then offered to churchill when that didn't work

Offering someone to not bomb the shit out of them and keep everything else is not a peace offering

invading Poland is only okay if Stalin does it

^^

same with killing millions

the invasion of poland happened

but Poland was asking for it

Poland attacked first
Then pray tell, why did they have a plan beforehand to divide between Germany and the USSR?

oh god

`Poland was asking for it`

**but Poland was asking for it**

oof

Those warmongering Poles

Heinz Splittgerber, in his short book Unkenntnis oder Infamie?, quotes a number of Polish sources which reflect the atmosphere in Poland immediately before the hostilities commenced. On August 7th, 1939 the Ilustrowany Kurjer featured an article "which described with provocative effrontery how military units were continually foraying across the border into German territory in order to destroy military installations and to take weapons and tools of the German Wehrmacht back to Poland. Most Polish diplomats and politicians understood that Poland's actions would perforce lead to war. Foreign Minister Beck... tenaciously pursued the bloodthirsty plan of plunging Europe into another great war, since it would presumably result in territorial gains for Poland."24 He goes on to cite some 14 incidents where Polish soldiers aggressively crossed the border, destroying houses, shooting and killing German farmers and customs officers. One of them: "August 29th: "State Police Offices in Elbing, Köslin and Breslau, Main Customs Office in Beuthen and Gleiwitz: Polish soldiers invade Reich German territory, attack against German customs house, shots taken at German customs officials, Polish machine guns stationed on Reich German territory."25

Attacking the peacefull German state

the Nazis were very brutal to the Polish people, they wanted to wipe them from history and turn them into a slave worker colony

Also If they would have attacked, why was Germany armed to the teeth

source: Heinz Splittgerber, Unkenntnis oder Infamie? Darstellungen und Tatsachen zum Kriegsausbruch 1939, pp. 12-13. Quoted from Oskar Reile, Der deutsche Geheimdienst im Zweiten Weltkrieg, Ostfront, pp.278, 280 f., Augsburg: Weltbild, 1990

you guys have really shitty arguments

Not even light defense, but millions of soilders marching

you just try shut me down by name calling and sarcasm without actually substantiating any of your claims

As If was planned all along
Realy actives those almonds dont you think?

well i provided a source

The nazis fabricated polish aggression to have a war goal against them other than to retake old Prussian lands.

the only way Poland got into the allies

was by being in a defensive war

the poles couldn't rely on that

hence why the Międzymorze plan was drafted

to say that they expected territorial gains

what happened to Poland was a disgrace and shame on you for thinking they asked for it

after embarking on one of the most desperate attempts at gaining allies

to not get slaughtered by either soviets or Germans

is ludicrous

not to mention potential Międzymorze members

were already getting conquered left and right

I just realised rickety has the conspiracy meme as his profile pic. Ironic <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

At least he is self-aware to an extent

Or a good troll

at least he names sources

but take a look at that source

`Quoted from Oskar Reile, Der deutsche Geheimdienst im Zweiten Weltkrieg`

-> Quoted from Oskar Reile, the German Secret Service in the Second World War

If it wasn't for those pesky polacks Hitler probably would of have won the Nobel Peace Prize, but those damn polacks were asking for it

so this is the fucking Gestapo saying Hitler did nuffin wrong

nice

let's ask the KGB if Stalin did something wrong next

^

The KGB wasn't actually around during Stalin times but you get the picture <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

Lets ask the the KKK If the confederacy did anything wrong

^^

Htiler and Stalin were actually the most peacefull and goodhearted people on the planet.

I don't trust the allies for a second lol

Not a fan of the Germans either

I don't trust the Gestapo m8

to give me an accurate view of Poland's and Germany's motivations

Churchill was a drunken homicidal maniac

But you trust the allies @Ruggwain

winners write history

Lets ask some neo-cons If Bush did anything wrong

the fact you think it's not biased is bizarre

don't lose then.

@Ruggwain the Gestapo and the KGB are the most reliable sources of information

^^

I'm more inclined to trust the KGB over the CIA

I don't trust the allies entirely either

I don't trust either ofc

but modern history is better at judging than contemporary GESTAPO

like

fucking ***GESTAPO***

Winners write history
Why did the Athenians write more and are well known about the war with Sparta If Sparta won

@franti john bolton should probably be hanged tbh

winners do write history

which is also why American war criminals always get aways scott-free

but the fact that Poland was not the aggressor is pretty much agreed on from every backwater island to the major powers

@Ruggwain yeah they were cruel but the soviets were quite bad themselves and nobody ever talks about them, not to mention Churchill killing millions of indians and initiating the firebombings which lead to all the civilian casualties

cause it's fairly obvious from a political standpoint XD

yeah they're all shit

Britain castrated the gays

But the nazis gassed them <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

Slight difference <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

Sweden also did that, same with the mentally challenged

yee

sweden did it till the 80s

Not castrated, but sterlizised

@Ruggwain we'll agree to disagree

I definitely won't agree on the fact that the third Reich was in morally equivalence to the allies or neutral powers <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

so I suppose yes <:GWgoaThinken:405753076432109573>

the war could've been prevented if britain and france didn't declare war

@Ruggwain but the gays were asking for it

the gays were too busy molesting children

fu

cking