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2018-06-09 19:21:14 UTC

@DanielKO I dunno where this comes from, other than a dispute in the fact we disagree on things like programming languages.

2018-06-09 19:23:04 UTC

2016 was a long time ago but jesus everything turned on it head then

2018-06-09 19:23:18 UTC

The essence of war is a violent struggle between two hostile,
independent, and irreconcilable wills, each trying to impose itself
on the other. War is fundamentally an interactive social
process. @franti

2018-06-09 19:24:11 UTC

Politics is inherently masked violence

2018-06-09 19:24:39 UTC

@Deleted User No it isn't

2018-06-09 19:25:05 UTC

Top rebuttal

2018-06-09 19:25:10 UTC

@Deleted User Going full neo-con I see

2018-06-09 19:25:55 UTC

@Deleted User It is so obviously isn't, that is why military force is part of politics

2018-06-09 19:26:10 UTC

Pray tell would have MLK be able achive anything If politics is just masked violence

2018-06-09 19:26:36 UTC

Non-violent action is still action

2018-06-09 19:26:43 UTC
2018-06-09 19:27:03 UTC

We have war books that describe Ghandi as a great tactical commander of troops

2018-06-09 19:27:39 UTC

He just understood how to use masked violence as a method to exhort his will on another

2018-06-09 19:27:44 UTC

Ghandi molested his nieces

2018-06-09 19:28:00 UTC

Pure intellectualism

2018-06-09 19:28:33 UTC

Ghandi didn't manage to unite what is Pakistan and India

2018-06-09 19:28:41 UTC

He also molested his nieces

2018-06-09 19:28:50 UTC

Oh wow

2018-06-09 19:29:06 UTC

He was able to break free from the BRE

2018-06-09 19:29:12 UTC

but yea

2018-06-09 19:30:02 UTC

Just because he didnt manage to keep two cultures together as one nation state that takes the place of his accomplishment

2018-06-09 19:30:17 UTC

didn't manage

2018-06-09 19:30:51 UTC

I dunno. I just don't like celebrating child molesters as great thinkers

2018-06-09 19:31:10 UTC

This is not an argument

2018-06-09 19:31:10 UTC

Fun fact
The first picture when searching french rapist is a picture of JF

2018-06-09 19:31:30 UTC

@Deleted User Is Jimmy Saville a great host?

2018-06-09 19:31:50 UTC

@Deleted User was Jim will fix it a great show?

2018-06-09 19:31:54 UTC

Total war and perfect peace rarely exist in practice. Instead,
they are extremes between which exist the relations among
most political groups. This range includes routine economic
competition, more or less permanent political or ideological
tension, and occasional crises among groups. The decision to
resort to the use of military force of some kind may arise at any
point within these extremes, even during periods of relative
peace. On one end of the spectrum, military force may be used
simply to maintain or restore order in civil disturbances or disaster
relief operations. At the other extreme, force may be used
to completely overturn the existing order within a society or between
two or more societies. Some cultures consider it a moral
imperative to go to war only as a last resort when all peaceful
means to settle disagreements have failed. Others have no such
hesitancy to resort to military force to achieve their aims. @franti

2018-06-09 19:32:56 UTC

Read Clausewitz and you will understand this better than your ill conceived notions

2018-06-09 19:33:29 UTC

and I have no clue who Jimmy Saville is

2018-06-09 19:33:31 UTC

Whenever someone tells me to read something that means they can't answer it themselves and dunno the answer

2018-06-09 19:33:52 UTC

Jimmy Savile liked Cheese pizza

2018-06-09 19:33:55 UTC

@Deleted User And I am of the notion of when others have no
hesitancy to resort to military force to achieve their aims.
We as a nation have to responds with force
I am not aguing to apease dictators or be a dormat

2018-06-09 19:34:19 UTC

That is fair enough

2018-06-09 19:34:50 UTC

Jimmy savile was a BBC radio and tv host

2018-06-09 19:34:59 UTC

And he was also a pedo

2018-06-09 19:35:05 UTC

@SaltySwede and prolific paedo

2018-06-09 19:35:14 UTC

The line in political violence is one we in the west have the privilege of not experiencing for a long time

2018-06-09 19:35:17 UTC

And the BBC covered it up

2018-06-09 19:35:20 UTC

iirc

2018-06-09 19:35:21 UTC

@Deleted User If you dont respond you get cut down
Peacefull negotiation only works when there is reciprocity

2018-06-09 19:35:24 UTC

@SaltySwede he was the fucking king of paedos

2018-06-09 19:35:29 UTC

But

2018-06-09 19:35:36 UTC

What a title

2018-06-09 19:35:45 UTC

Political action is the use of the state as your method of violence

2018-06-09 19:35:59 UTC

Through the force of the state

2018-06-09 19:36:07 UTC

@SaltySwede I am suprised NABLA hasn't made him like some sort of pilgrimage

2018-06-09 19:36:11 UTC

@Deleted User Also
Politics is not masked violence. Politics is the civilized alternative to violence. War begins where politics fails. Am I necessarily penning a call to violence with an argumentative political essay? No.

2018-06-09 19:36:24 UTC

I just answered that above

2018-06-09 19:36:26 UTC
2018-06-09 19:36:31 UTC

The thing that is even more fucked is that he was a kids entertainer

2018-06-09 19:36:33 UTC

i think

2018-06-09 19:37:12 UTC

@Deleted User political action can also negate the state entirely

2018-06-09 19:37:30 UTC

He was the OG Harvey weinstein

2018-06-09 19:37:31 UTC

that does not change the stated clause

2018-06-09 19:37:43 UTC

Your exception does not negate the rule

2018-06-09 19:37:49 UTC

yes it does

2018-06-09 19:38:14 UTC

Saying exceptions are not important is nonsense

2018-06-09 19:38:24 UTC

That is not what i said

2018-06-09 19:38:37 UTC

I said your exception does not negate the rule

2018-06-09 19:40:52 UTC

When two political powers are struggling for power "peacefully" they will use masked violence to gain power
"Portrayed as a clash between two opposing wills, war appears a simple enterprise."

2018-06-09 19:41:15 UTC

This is through the action of the state over who they have defeated politically

2018-06-09 19:41:16 UTC

what is masked violence

2018-06-09 19:41:18 UTC

that is a bullshit term

2018-06-09 19:41:29 UTC

I will only respond to you

2018-06-09 19:41:31 UTC

No u

2018-06-09 19:41:49 UTC

Until you actually refute a point or bring one up

2018-06-09 19:42:03 UTC

No, stop using nonsense terms

2018-06-09 19:42:06 UTC

no u

2018-06-09 19:42:22 UTC

@Deleted User you are using a nonsense term that you haven't defined

2018-06-09 19:42:27 UTC

no u

2018-06-09 19:42:28 UTC

what is masked violence

2018-06-09 19:42:43 UTC

I've asked you for a definition of a term

2018-06-09 19:43:53 UTC

When your end goal is to impose your will on someone else. And you accomplish this through means that are not inherently violent.

2018-06-09 19:44:31 UTC

That isn't violent, so how can it have the term violent attached to it?

2018-06-09 19:44:32 UTC

It is a masked form of imposed will which is why it is called masked violence

2018-06-09 19:45:05 UTC

If i get you thrown in jail through peaceful means and i do nothing violent

2018-06-09 19:45:23 UTC

I have used masked violence

2018-06-09 19:45:29 UTC

Did I commit a crime?

2018-06-09 19:45:42 UTC

This is so vague and meaningless

2018-06-09 19:45:43 UTC

the is irrelevant

2018-06-09 19:45:48 UTC

And No U

2018-06-09 19:46:03 UTC

your bullshit terms that don't mean anything are meaningless

2018-06-09 19:46:08 UTC

No u

2018-06-09 19:46:19 UTC

No U!

2018-06-09 19:46:32 UTC

Prager U!

2018-06-09 19:46:36 UTC

Good at least you are arguing with the rigor you can muster now

2018-06-09 19:46:38 UTC

There is no proper definition of anything and it is complete bullshit

2018-06-09 19:46:42 UTC

No U

2018-06-09 19:46:49 UTC

We reached the hight of intelectual discourse guys

2018-06-09 19:47:00 UTC

๐Ÿคฃ

2018-06-09 19:47:01 UTC

No Jew!

2018-06-09 19:47:32 UTC

i don't get it, there is no clear definition of this Masked Violence

2018-06-09 19:48:14 UTC

Your inability to understand a basic sentence does not constitute "no clear definition"

2018-06-09 19:49:01 UTC

You inability to explain what you mean tell me that you are talking bullshit

2018-06-09 19:49:05 UTC

Ghandi did nothing wrong.

2018-06-09 19:49:29 UTC

^^

2018-06-09 19:49:36 UTC

And No U

2018-06-09 19:49:41 UTC

@Deleted User he molested his nieces

2018-06-09 19:49:58 UTC

I wonder if you have evidence for this claim...

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