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AND THEREFORE IS NIHILISM
I AGREE IT HAS LITTLE IN COMMON WITH SECULAR HUMANISM, BUT THAT IS DELIBERATELY MISUNDERSTOOD
BY ITS PROPONENTS
WHO SEE IT AS MORE THAN MERELY INDIVIDUALISM
it's rejection of *an* idea
not of ideas
NIHILISM IS REALISM THAT DENIES THE PROMINENCE OF HUMAN JUDGMENT/INTENT
why can't it just be realism
i mean
IT IS REJECTION OF ALL IDEAS BASED IN INNATE TRUTH, VALUE AND PURPOSE
i thought i sounded cool telling people i was a nihilist back in the early 2000's thanks to the ANUS
REALISM DOES NOT CONTAIN ANYTHING OTHER THAN OBSERVATION
THIS INCLUDES A CONCLUSION REGARDING HOW TO OBSERVE
It's not existentialism @Hagel
IT PROBABLY DID SOUND COOL
BUT
did...
IT ALSO HAS SUBSTANCE
Existentialism focuses around the ego
WE HAVE A LOT MORE KIDDIE NIHILISTS AROUND
but if it has substance, how is it nihilism?
AGREED @spaceplacenta
IT IS A FORM OF INDIVIDUALISM
IT CONSISTS OF A DISBELIEF IN INHERENT/INNATE VALUE
THIS IS NIHILISTIC
is it possible to not BE a nihilist
FROM THAT, MORE CAN BE ASCERTAINED
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
but to incoporate nihilistic viewpoints?
THE BASIS IS IN NIHILISM
PROBABLY
THERE ARE MULTIPLE PATHS TO MOST CONCLUSIONS
Nihilism is a faulty foundation
THE PROBLEM WILL BE IF YOU TAKE A COLLECTION OF CONCLUSIONS
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER
Why not pose pragmatism as transcendental Idealism
it's more suiting than being a cynic for the sake of being a cynic
cynicism seems like an end
OR BECOME AN INCOHERENT BUNDLE
nihilism being that end in modern terms
YES, CYNICISM IS A METHOD BASED ON MAKING ASSUMPTIONS INTO CONCLUSIONS
CAN BE USEFUL I SUPPOSE
PRAGMATISM WILL DEFAULT TO STANDARD HUMAN MENTALLY CONVENIENT INDIVIDUALISM
i love you papa. i feel like i am home in your arms.
The interpretation of nihilism is that of an invalid world, where solely being human is its epitaph
i think the fault is in the being of nihilism
In a Nietzschean view
you can't help but become nihilist
nobody here surely asked to come to such a conclusion
"Existentialism focuses around the ego"
It doesn't have to, it can just be a starting point
It's still more of that than it is nihilism
But I don't care, I like Wittgenstein. I'll play the language game
When the psyche is in league with the sensible world, there is no free will (this is where I disagree with Schopenhauer)
Schopenhauer believed in free will
Kant did not
Kant held duty as the highest moral good
@spaceplacenta SCHOPENHAUER BELIEVED IN WILL
HE WAS CRITICAL OF "FREE WILL" USING A SPINOZIST ARGUMENT
BUT HIS POINT WAS LIKE NIETZSCHE'S, AND THIS IS THE POINT YOU ARE MAKING:
COMPETENCE, NOT MORAL OBEDIENCE, RULES THE DAY
What does it mean to be free, if not self governing?
HE IS RIGHT IN THAT CHRISTIANS TEND TO VALUE OBEDIENT PEOPLE WHO ARE CLUELESS
Nothing else has been observed to be free, so what even is free will?
SCHOP/NIETZSCHE WANTED PEOPLE WHO COULD THINK
theoretically
AN ARGUMENT FOR NATURAL ARISTOCRACY
@Hagel "FREE WILL" IS A DRIVEL CONCEPT, BUT "CHOICE" IS WHAT MOST MEAN BY IT
THEY MEAN THE ABILITY TO COMPUTE/PROCESS EXTERNAL DATA AND MAKE BRANCHING CHOICES
free will sounds like a scientific term trying to molt out of an ethical/moral term in choice
That's just will, there's nothing really free about it
It's compatible with determinism, and with the sort of probabilistic semi random procedures of quantum level physics
as a scientific term it's carl saganite we wuz stardust terminology
i am the lizard king
i can do anything
We actually were stardust in a sense, unlike the African kangz
well, I guess they had kingdoms
OR JUST: CHOICE
PEOPLE ACTUALLY MAKE DECISIONS
BASED ON THEIR SPECIFIC CAPABILITIES, EXPERIENCES AND PERSONALITIES
influences
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT FREE WILL IMPLIES UNIVERSALISM
YES, I WOULD PLACE INFLUENCES UNDER EXPERIENCES
true, but influence seems to override experience in an underhanded way
experience seems more pure
I'm drunk. I'd prefer this conversation in email
influence is up to interpretation
i'm probably being a hairsplitting faggot
are there any no pooers
What are your opinions on the black crime situation in the U.S? What's the most ethical and effective way to deal with it?
send them to sweden
osiris akkebala eat your heart out
SMORREBROD FOR EVERYONE
ethical and effective solutions are polar opposites here ๐
Armed patrols. Led by black people in black neighborhoods, under the auspices of, I don't know, "gun clubs" or "conservationist clubs."
Whatever will explain away their possession of firearms and roaming at night.
Get the police intertwined so any legal "excesses" can be carried out without threat of crackdown. Basically what the KKK was but black and internally focused.
1. end diversity
2. end equality
3. sodomize the weak
solution for literally everything
"ethical and effective solutions are polar opposites here ๐"
Being effective is ethical, since the problem must be solved
The effective solution would be imposing martial law
as mosely outlines essentially
firing squads for any criminals
nah
just let blacks live among their own
let them figure shit out for themselves
i wouldn't impose anything on them
he, well he said he wanted a solution
that is a solution
not more of the same
It's not a solution once they're already in your house
if they want to live along our standards, let them impose it on themselves
that's a solution for containing the plague
ultimately you need to strike at the cultural roots
another part of my solution would be to completely remove welfare state
single mothers will stop reproducing
but that's a generational strategy
they tried all that stuff
when?
the best result was fresh prince of bel air
lol, nice meme
I don't really agree with @diversity_is_racism 's argument, hence me wanting to take it to email
Or Applebee's
black culture matured just before the civil rights movement blew up
That solution is for black on black crime.
If a black person kills, beats, rapes a member of some other race then his local government siezes his property and delivers him unto the bereaved family as an indentured servant.
People around + drinks hinders focus
"his property"
blacks don't own property
and the ones that do don't commit crime like that
at least not en masse
to facilitate such drastic measures
They could seize some weed
hue
hey look ludvig tried to make a joke
my nigga
welcome to the cool kids club
good blacks harbor bad blacks because they're all inherently against imposition by whites
realistically, the best thing we could do is give them reservations
instead of keeping them corraled in ghettos
where democrat politicians and pastors capitalize on their strife
offer them a real shot at ethnic independence
instead of fresh prince of bel air
They have their own nations, in Africa
no they don't
they have ex colonies
They do as much as any one has his own nation, under the weight of globalist pressure
liberia was an attempt
@Hagel BLACK CRIME IS A RESULT OF ETHNIC DISPLACEMENT PLUS NATURAL INCLINATIONS
SOLUTION IS TO END THE ETHNIC DISPLACEMENT
BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS
REPARATIONS-WITH-REPATRIATION
WHICH ENDS IT PEACEABLY, FAIRLY, ETC.
@diversity_is_racism why do you suppose more blacks didn't go for that?
END WELFARE; PAY EVERYONE NON-WASP TO GO BACK
@vry_o IT HAS TO REACH CRITICAL MASS
AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THEY ARE GOING SOMEPLACE OK
WHICH AFRICA HAS NOT BEEN UNTIL RECENTLY
where is it ok in africa?
None of this is realistic, people will screech at any racial policy
might be more effective to pay blacks to sterilize themselves ๐
I like what you are doing, Stevens
But I think that you need a way to make a lot of money so that you can start a cult and create your own culture
west africa looks pretty shit by comparison
but not that far off from some of the more unsavory ghettos i've been in
take over land and resources through commerce
i like the idea of repatriation, but they're divorced from african culture
you think africans want our feral blacks?
and eventually, you have lots of cultists living together who won't screech at it
Technically, your blacks have higher IQ
blacks are the WASP problem
85 vs 70
Although Nigeria is seeing an IQ increase every generation
It has the fastest increasing IQ in the world
so they build houses of sticks instead of mud
exactly
why would they want to dilute that
But no, of course they don't want to accept a bunch of immigrants
@diversity_is_racism what do you think of the reservation idea?
send the red asians back to mongolia
also are you familiar with E Michael Jones?
YES
ON MONGOLIA
OR PERHAPS
SEND THEM TO AUSTRALIA WITH THE REST OF ASIANS
GIVE EVERYONE A CONTINENT
no fuck you nigger
hahahahahahahahahah
HAHA
I AM SORRY, I MISTYPED
SEND ALL AFRICANS TO AUSTRALIA
@profagonist i still want to bring that up to tristan
THERE, THEY WILL ENJOY THE SUN
Sweden now has a permanent muslim infestation that won't go away, like when that plague broke out among rats
yeah the south africans think they can come here
BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS
when you told him south africans should fuck off
All rats now have it and have to live with it
hahaha YES
REPATRIATE PEOPLE TO ETHNIC ORIGIN CONTINENTS
i'll knock out any cunt who comes here from africa black or white
@Hagel IT WILL GO AWAY WHEN THE SOCIALIST TIT DRIES UP
Oh god the text is moving upward too hastily for me
GET RID OF YOUR WELFARE STATE, END YOUR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION LIKE POLICIES
THEN
NO MIGRANTS
prozak and me
on a boat
going back to ireland
@spaceplacenta WHAT ARE YOU DRINKING?
his better half heading to israel
@vry_o WITH WHISKY AND POTATOES
Heineken
They'll stop coming in, but the ones who entered will still be here spamming children
That's why it's never going away
HEINEKEN IS PERFECTLY ENJOYABLE
@Hagel do you like rats more than people
SORT OF LIKE STELLA AND AMSTEL
@Hagel THEY WILL LEAVE VOLUNTARILY
You like girly beer
WHEN YOU STOP SUPPORTING THEM
THE SOCIALIST STATE IS YOUR ENEMY
@spaceplacenta SAM SMITH'S IS GIRLY BEER?
Haven't had that
DIVERSITY IS GOING TO RESOLVE ITSELF EASILY
REMOVE SUBSIDIES
@Hagel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTOppsw9Gs LUDVIG THE MOVIE
IT VANISHES
I remember you drinking messcan drivel
Sweden always had tribes co-operating, and eventually it turned in to one tribe co-operating (economically speaking)
@spaceplacenta I LOVE NEGRA MODELO
rat tribes?
That's the one
The problem was when they started helping everyone, going as far as inviting the enemy
cats?
That's like drinking water
They can't just stop what they've done for so lon
@Hagel EXACTLY. SOCIALISM IS CANCER.
DEMOCRACY IS SOCIALISM LITE
AS SOCIALISM FAILS, YOU GET COMMUNISM
TO TRY TO MAKE IT WORK
They have to stop being socialists, or be socialists only for their own kind.
The latter is a smaller ,easier step
Want to see my cats? A pitbull killed their mother so I took them in
orange babies ๐
@Hagel IF THEY ARE SOCIALISTS ONLY FOR THEIR OWN KIND, THEY WILL DESTROY THEIR OWN KIND
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