no they do not

0% of my coworkers do this

and it doesn't take any particular discipline beyond what lies in the middle of the curve

even the other vegetarian among us still eats pizza when offered

as what you are describing is a functional dadlife

hey, maybe you hang around with strange people

Would it be offensive if i asked you guys to point me in the direction of resources to read about Buddhism? I know nothing of the religion.

but you often criticize people for robotic joblives

and that certainly fits with the discipline you seemed to imply was present in your life

And, also:

how do you even know for yourself

unless you do something you dont want to

surely that is discipline

you are just trying to twist my arm into doing what you want

maybe I am, so what

it is transparent and I decline

doesn't make what I'm saying false

yes, I am being fully transparent

no trickery here

I do stuff I do not want to do all the time

@Mosely#0522 I posted the link above

90% of what I do, I do not want to do

I mean, again

that's just you saying words

and justifying after the fact

I am only holding out for a few years until I am richer

proof is in the pudding

anyone can convince themselves they are this or that

people do it all the time

hell, its a normal part of human psychology

they are not saving money by the wheelbarrow, investing it and successfully not fucking it up

well, a certain subset certainly would be

Mosely is part of my real name. And part of my dad's name by extension. I use it online as a way to impose discipline on myself in a sort of "do not say or do anything you would not be comfortable having attached to your family's image." In that way I get no chance to blow off steam.

do you know how difficult it is for a normal retard to invest money, how much trigger discipline that takes?

And thanks @The Enlightened Shepherd

this isn't a serious question though

I do not even go through anybody's little IRA plan, I do it all myself

look you can say you can stand on coals while a 10/10 sucks you off without getting hard

and it's still words

"prove it by doing the thing I want"

no

I'm offering you the chance to do something real

I already do real stuff all the time

something anyone can look at and say

I did 50 pull ups the other day before work

"yeah, that's some discipline"

50 pull ups, coal walk

same shit

and I am not concerned with the opinions of others, they already think I am disciplined

why not say 500?

because I cannot do 500

I know, it's not about others

its about proving it to yourself

@Mosely#0522 Body of Buddhist scriptures, if you include all possible traditions, is huge

and knowing for sure you are right

rather than merely deluding yourself

"Everything you do is invald except this one thing I want you to do" -dallot

hey, can you come up with an alternative method?

this one is available, easy

@Mosely#0522 Pali Canon itself isn't completely translated in English, but most important parts are

and after 24 hours, it's over

can negotiate the hours even

and you can still blow off steam even

you just can't refer to yourself

I actually really enjoyed reading carjack's log where he said "actually no I know him IRL and he is serious about all of this"

All noted. 👍

carjack actually taught me a lot about discipline and being a minimalist hardass

I was good before him but since knowing him I have become way moreso

it takes a special kind of hardass to decline simple pleasures when you already have nothing

he seems worse than you to be honest

maybe in some other environment

I could see the real Carjack

but I fear I already am

carjack is great

he is one of the most sensible people I have ever met

more or less than gay fox

I would say about equal

yeah, that's about where I had it too

both of them are more sensible than me

I am quite fickle and change my mind often without stabilizing people in my life

or stabilizing doctrine

I am pretty sure I have borderline

my theory is it's all the same

NPD, BPD, Sociopathy, Psychopathy

with the labels NPD and BPD containing some non-NPD/BPD people

who have a diffferent kind of hangup

I call it "low self esteem narcissism"

need a better name

well ultimately all these little "disorders" are just really simplified designations for complex thought/psychodynamic/behavior patterns

no, everything is simple

nothing is complicated in principle

this is just how people obscure things

by saying "its complicated"

I have an allergy to that

whatever cannot be reduced to something simple, is not understood

the fundamental thing about me is I feel chronically empty and unsatisfied and I am extremely angry over how shitty everyone and everything is to make me feel that way, an I bounce from thing to thing trying to find something not shitty

yeah that sounds like my second category

I've examined myself pretty thoroughly at this point

if there is a void in you

you can't fill it up, it's simply impossible