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2017-03-24 14:59:26 UTC

good or bad

2017-03-24 14:59:49 UTC

they see life in this frame, they consider certain ends good or preferable or more important or more timely

2017-03-24 14:59:52 UTC

As I said, I don't care if the Third World want to stack themselves like cordwood. Other than the fact that the cordwood will snuff out thousands of species more valuable than the cordwood.

2017-03-24 14:59:53 UTC

that aren't necessarily so

2017-03-24 14:59:54 UTC

true.

2017-03-24 15:00:19 UTC

All people have and need frames.

2017-03-24 15:00:28 UTC

most people, including people like us

2017-03-24 15:00:35 UTC

don't realize how much of their assumptions come from around them

2017-03-24 15:00:49 UTC

there is no such thing as a sui generis intellect

2017-03-24 15:00:54 UTC

"they consider certain ends good or preferable or more important or more timely". Everyone does this. We have no choice but to find "certain ends and goods" preferable, or we would be unable to act.

2017-03-24 15:01:06 UTC

that's right, of course

2017-03-24 15:01:08 UTC

I realize that.

2017-03-24 15:01:19 UTC

but the emphasis is on CERTAIN ones than arent necessarily so

2017-03-24 15:01:46 UTC

I'm fully comfortable with my choice for some wilderness, low population density, etc. I'm willing to accept that it's a choice and not universal, and still act on it.

2017-03-24 15:01:51 UTC

gotcha

2017-03-24 15:02:20 UTC

sure, I'm not a fan of high population density myself

2017-03-24 15:02:23 UTC

I'm now comfortable with existential choices that I can't be sure or know are not universally provable or true

2017-03-24 15:02:28 UTC

big cities make me uncomfortable

2017-03-24 15:02:43 UTC

I'm so not a fan I'm willing to use the force of the state to enforce my preferences.

2017-03-24 15:02:50 UTC

well, we have that in common

2017-03-24 15:03:12 UTC

if suddenly

2017-03-24 15:03:17 UTC

every white person in the US

2017-03-24 15:03:24 UTC

became temperamentally a chink, for instance

2017-03-24 15:03:26 UTC

what would change?

2017-03-24 15:03:36 UTC

i.e. their mentality would become chinese, their attitudes towards race etc.

2017-03-24 15:04:06 UTC

I suspect the supremacy of whites in the US would become unquestioned within a year

2017-03-24 15:04:31 UTC

all immigration/non-white population problems would be solved with a heavy hand

2017-03-24 15:04:33 UTC

very quickly

2017-03-24 15:04:40 UTC

everyone would know what was theirs, and what wasn't

2017-03-24 15:04:46 UTC

true. I have a good Chinese friend who is here because the air pollution was killing his son. He's as alt-right and supremacist as I am.

2017-03-24 15:04:47 UTC

they would become jingoistic about the world outside

2017-03-24 15:05:12 UTC

I get a little annoyed because I see people gravitate towards the right in large numbers

2017-03-24 15:05:16 UTC

He's great. Totally on board with the alt-right. Doesn't approve of miscegenation, either.

2017-03-24 15:05:18 UTC

due to issue like say, islamic invasion

2017-03-24 15:05:26 UTC

yeah. It's annoying.

2017-03-24 15:05:29 UTC

but underneath, they are fully leftists

2017-03-24 15:05:32 UTC

it's so easy and facile.

2017-03-24 15:05:34 UTC

they just want to be leftists in peace

2017-03-24 15:05:42 UTC

that is right.

2017-03-24 15:05:51 UTC

I think this situation is engineered, though it's a bit of an out there opinion

2017-03-24 15:06:21 UTC

Out there according to the mainstream. But that mainstream is engineered. So there.

2017-03-24 15:06:21 UTC

including the terrorism bogeyman

2017-03-24 15:06:34 UTC

The elites use boogeymen to control the masses. They always have.

2017-03-24 15:06:48 UTC

Always. Heroes too.

2017-03-24 15:06:56 UTC

Putin is the latest - people like my brother fall for it. Putin putin, all the time. It's pitiful.

2017-03-24 15:07:11 UTC

it's fine as long as one is for what good putin stands for (or seems to)

2017-03-24 15:07:17 UTC

Yes, there can be a good side to controlling the masses with good archetypes.

2017-03-24 15:07:18 UTC

rather than simply a putin partisan

2017-03-24 15:07:29 UTC

I mean he falls for Putin being a boogeyman.

2017-03-24 15:07:45 UTC

oh

2017-03-24 15:07:56 UTC

its funny how they parrot media opinions

2017-03-24 15:08:03 UTC

He thinks I am a Putin partisan, because I don't call Putin/Russia an enemy.

2017-03-24 15:08:03 UTC

like its literally mind control

2017-03-24 15:08:08 UTC

a meme is inserted into media

2017-03-24 15:08:08 UTC

It is.

2017-03-24 15:08:09 UTC

"fake news"

2017-03-24 15:08:13 UTC

two days later its on everyone's lips

2017-03-24 15:08:17 UTC

"did you hear about that fake news"

2017-03-24 15:08:24 UTC

"boy that fake news sure is a problem"

2017-03-24 15:08:35 UTC

My brother is an extreme: he hews to the consensus closely, and laughs at and insults those who deviate, and considers that clever.

2017-03-24 15:08:51 UTC

yes. and people like my brother think they are clever for being the first to parrot the meme.

2017-03-24 15:08:52 UTC

strange.

2017-03-24 15:09:11 UTC

people really do advertise their cleverness this way

2017-03-24 15:09:17 UTC

I don't like the term virtue signalling

2017-03-24 15:09:20 UTC

but it is signalling

2017-03-24 15:09:34 UTC

people like this have created a false self or selves

2017-03-24 15:09:46 UTC

their real selves feel basically the same way as anyone else

2017-03-24 15:09:52 UTC

except those who are extremely depraved

2017-03-24 15:09:52 UTC

it's truly some kind of atavistic urge for the average middling man to gain strength from the herd.

2017-03-24 15:10:25 UTC

does your brother have kids?

2017-03-24 15:10:34 UTC

hell no.

2017-03-24 15:10:43 UTC

@fallot hellstar guy is good but not Mercyful Fate good.

2017-03-24 15:10:44 UTC

I've told him to find a Russian wife or something and just do it.

2017-03-24 15:11:09 UTC

Also bill steer and Richard Brunelle

2017-03-24 15:11:10 UTC

He's incredibly fragile in terms of his rigid life. I think he's afraid that he simply couldn't tolerate a wife or children.

2017-03-24 15:11:34 UTC

He had an Estonian woman who would have come over and married him last year, he met her on a trip to Europe. He didn't do it.

2017-03-24 15:12:10 UTC

He's often been unhappy, lonely. He used to be suicidal at times, calling my wife for solace. Unhappy despite all his money and "success.""

2017-03-24 15:12:14 UTC

age?

2017-03-24 15:12:30 UTC

I watched a robin bath and groom himself in the sun

2017-03-24 15:12:32 UTC

42

2017-03-24 15:12:43 UTC

that was the nicest thing I've seen in probably a year

2017-03-24 15:13:30 UTC

Haven't seen the first robin of spring yet.

2017-03-24 15:13:47 UTC

basically he's been conned by money and consumerism and individualism to not have a family.

2017-03-24 15:14:28 UTC

like so may of our people/race.

2017-03-24 15:16:10 UTC

poor guy

2017-03-24 15:16:26 UTC

guys like him find out the hard way what really matters in life

2017-03-24 15:16:50 UTC

I hope he finds himself a decent woman

2017-03-24 15:17:10 UTC

which is itself probably a struggle

2017-03-24 15:17:15 UTC

You are kind. I have a harder time being kind to him, since he regularly attacks and demeans me.

2017-03-24 15:17:18 UTC

the traditional binds, once broken

2017-03-24 15:17:22 UTC

they dont just come back

2017-03-24 15:17:26 UTC

the old systems, unspoken

2017-03-24 15:17:30 UTC

of finding good mates

2017-03-24 15:17:34 UTC

they were never "in the open"

2017-03-24 15:17:39 UTC

so when they are gone, people dont even notice

2017-03-24 15:17:43 UTC

or dont miss them, until the need arises

2017-03-24 15:18:02 UTC

I did not realize parental input in marriage was the rule in western society as well

2017-03-24 15:18:10 UTC

until quite recently

2017-03-24 15:21:13 UTC

yes.

2017-03-24 15:23:33 UTC

how old are your kids @Jake Saga ?

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