Message from @Jake Saga

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2017-03-24 14:55:50 UTC  

in the US at least, you already have space and nature

2017-03-24 14:59:04 UTC  

"overpopulation" is a meme like "climate change"

2017-03-24 14:59:14 UTC  

there is some truth to both of these, and the principles are sound

2017-03-24 14:59:24 UTC  

but it's infected the minds of nearly everyone

2017-03-24 14:59:26 UTC  

good or bad

2017-03-24 14:59:49 UTC  

they see life in this frame, they consider certain ends good or preferable or more important or more timely

2017-03-24 14:59:52 UTC  

As I said, I don't care if the Third World want to stack themselves like cordwood. Other than the fact that the cordwood will snuff out thousands of species more valuable than the cordwood.

2017-03-24 14:59:53 UTC  

that aren't necessarily so

2017-03-24 14:59:54 UTC  

true.

2017-03-24 15:00:19 UTC  

All people have and need frames.

2017-03-24 15:00:28 UTC  

most people, including people like us

2017-03-24 15:00:35 UTC  

don't realize how much of their assumptions come from around them

2017-03-24 15:00:49 UTC  

there is no such thing as a sui generis intellect

2017-03-24 15:00:54 UTC  

"they consider certain ends good or preferable or more important or more timely". Everyone does this. We have no choice but to find "certain ends and goods" preferable, or we would be unable to act.

2017-03-24 15:01:06 UTC  

that's right, of course

2017-03-24 15:01:08 UTC  

I realize that.

2017-03-24 15:01:19 UTC  

but the emphasis is on CERTAIN ones than arent necessarily so

2017-03-24 15:01:46 UTC  

I'm fully comfortable with my choice for some wilderness, low population density, etc. I'm willing to accept that it's a choice and not universal, and still act on it.

2017-03-24 15:01:51 UTC  

gotcha

2017-03-24 15:02:20 UTC  

sure, I'm not a fan of high population density myself

2017-03-24 15:02:23 UTC  

I'm now comfortable with existential choices that I can't be sure or know are not universally provable or true

2017-03-24 15:02:28 UTC  

big cities make me uncomfortable

2017-03-24 15:02:43 UTC  

I'm so not a fan I'm willing to use the force of the state to enforce my preferences.

2017-03-24 15:02:50 UTC  

well, we have that in common

2017-03-24 15:03:12 UTC  

if suddenly

2017-03-24 15:03:17 UTC  

every white person in the US

2017-03-24 15:03:24 UTC  

became temperamentally a chink, for instance

2017-03-24 15:03:26 UTC  

what would change?

2017-03-24 15:03:36 UTC  

i.e. their mentality would become chinese, their attitudes towards race etc.

2017-03-24 15:04:06 UTC  

I suspect the supremacy of whites in the US would become unquestioned within a year

2017-03-24 15:04:31 UTC  

all immigration/non-white population problems would be solved with a heavy hand

2017-03-24 15:04:33 UTC  

very quickly

2017-03-24 15:04:40 UTC  

everyone would know what was theirs, and what wasn't

2017-03-24 15:04:46 UTC  

true. I have a good Chinese friend who is here because the air pollution was killing his son. He's as alt-right and supremacist as I am.

2017-03-24 15:04:47 UTC  

they would become jingoistic about the world outside

2017-03-24 15:05:12 UTC  

I get a little annoyed because I see people gravitate towards the right in large numbers

2017-03-24 15:05:16 UTC  

He's great. Totally on board with the alt-right. Doesn't approve of miscegenation, either.

2017-03-24 15:05:18 UTC  

due to issue like say, islamic invasion

2017-03-24 15:05:26 UTC  

yeah. It's annoying.

2017-03-24 15:05:29 UTC  

but underneath, they are fully leftists

2017-03-24 15:05:32 UTC  

it's so easy and facile.