latinate plane north onwards

no idea

Yes, obviously, Southern Italians are easily distinguihable

southern italy...

yeah as they are greek

not itlaian

by being somewhat darker skinned, and strongly dark haired

genetically

mostly greek, some arabic, and more norman than arabic

as the normans came first to just pillage

and only later realized how fucking free arabs and muslims areto onquer

due to islamic culture being bad at armies

saladin wins, army revolts against saladin instead of finishing pillaing the crusader camp

captured the kings of england and france, could have got sick ransoms of like 10 years of tax revenue form each

nope

@The Enlightened Shepherd ETHNICITY CAN MOSTLY BE DESCRIBED AS "RACIAL RECIPES" PLUS LOCAL EVOLUTION

ETHNICITY = POLITICAL, LINGUISTIC AND RACIAL COMPLEX

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/racesofeurope.htm

DENY ON POLITICAL

APPRECIATE LINGUISTIC, BUT ONLY AS CORRELARY

RACIAL, AGREED!

DEFINITELLY POLITICAL !

LOOK AT SERBS AND CROATS !

ALMOST IDENTICAL GENETIC MAKE-UP

NOT TO MENTION LANGUAGE

but they look a tiny bit different

live in different places

always were difference tribes

YEAH, NOT BUYING THAT ONE

DIFFERENT IDENTITIES AND VALUES SYSTEMS AT LEAST

they were alwasy different slavic tribes

they just moved next to each other

NOT REALLY MAARAT

ONLY DIFFERENT THING WAS NAMING AND THAT QUITE CONDITIONALLY

Serbs and Croats were not initially differentiated based on religion at all !

Serb-Croat differentiation today is entirely religious !

yes

Even though in history it is undisputable that there were not only many Catholic Serbs, but even Catholic Serb rulers

they were basically just random groups of people the byzantine emperor fucked the shit out of

Same goas for people of Croatia who could be Orthodox

and got tribute from

And not to mention migrations !

And what to speak of Bosniak "ethnicit" based only on Islam !

bosniak is not only islam

it's people in serbia who are not serbs

and was based mostly on feudal allegiance

not religion

NOO !!!!!!!!!!!

which was tied tofeudal allegiance

yes

Bosniak is a term made up in 1990s for people of Muslim faith

no

it was made up in the 1800s

and before

No

Look censuses prior to 90's

Always declared as Muslim

THATIS A LIE

the muslims

There were no "feuda' allegiances in Ottoman Empire

CHANGED THEIR ETHNICITY

LOOK UP CENSUSES !!!!!!!!!!

YES THERE WERE

THERE WERETONS OF FEUDALISM

THE OTTOMAN MPIRE WAS FEUDAL

STOP THE DUMB SHIT

THERE WERE NO ALLEGIANCES

yes there were

they bussed people around constnatly

Ottoman Empire was ruled from provinces ruled by provincial rulers

Pashas, Agas

who were appointed from instanbul

They did not have serfs at all

it was feudal

Muslims worked as tradesmen, craftsmen and soldiers

you do not need serfs to be feudal

And Christians almost 80% lived in villages otuside of towns

they moved aornd populations

and put themsleves atop the local feudal structures

as administrators

And they paid a feudal tribute to Agas or Pashas, but did not serve in Muslim army

they also did not always support the muslims

as many of the lords converted to islam

and weren't particualrly good subjects

so they were bussed around

the yreshuffled areas around

FEUDALISM ROCKS

to better control them

The term Bosniak coms from the word Bosnia, from Muslim intention to make Bosnia only their state

SO DOES ALL CAPS

yes

but bosniaks are real

fro the 1800s

YOU NEED CASTES AND ARISTOCRATS TO BE FEUDAL

The term BOSNIAK was NEVER EVER used to describe Muslims !

but it is not an ethnicity

prior to 90's !

AND ESPECIALLY NOT OUTSIDE BOSNIA

it meant NOT SERB

BOSNIAK = BOSNIAN MANIAC?