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2018-09-22 05:31:47 UTC

Occitans, Normans, Basques, Bretons, etc.

2018-09-22 05:32:00 UTC

Welly your idenity is an arbitrary cut off

2018-09-22 05:32:06 UTC

the same in Germany

2018-09-22 05:32:11 UTC

Cause different fench people will have different idenitits

2018-09-22 05:32:20 UTC

I don't see what the overall unifier even is

2018-09-22 05:32:26 UTC

Because ethnicity does not determine culture, identity, and religion if said person has assimilated into that society

2018-09-22 05:32:28 UTC

would you not see identity politics between a Saxon and a Bavarian or a Norman and an Occitan

2018-09-22 05:32:34 UTC

I'm not sure what the french socalist and the right wingerswould have in common

2018-09-22 05:32:38 UTC

Culture, race, background, etc.. @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:32:43 UTC

BUt dude

2018-09-22 05:32:52 UTC

Okay im an american fro ma generally liberal area

2018-09-22 05:33:00 UTC


2018-09-22 05:33:02 UTC

do i share anything in common with some dude from the rural south?

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2018-09-22 05:33:18 UTC

But we still both consider ourselves american

2018-09-22 05:33:21 UTC

that's a pretty destructive attitude

2018-09-22 05:33:22 UTC

we both have a common idenity

2018-09-22 05:33:29 UTC

you do share many things in common with some dude from the rural south

2018-09-22 05:33:33 UTC

@agag me?

2018-09-22 05:33:34 UTC

You are both American, you are both white presumably, you both may share the same religion, etc..

2018-09-22 05:33:41 UTC

nope not white

2018-09-22 05:33:46 UTC

though we may share the same religio

2018-09-22 05:33:49 UTC

What are you

2018-09-22 05:33:53 UTC

but our views on it may be different

2018-09-22 05:33:54 UTC

shared language, shared history, shared political traditions, shared holidays, etc.

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2018-09-22 05:33:57 UTC

the asian kind

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2018-09-22 05:34:02 UTC

So youโ€™re saying an Italian immigrant to Poland whoโ€™s family has been living in Poland for 40 years and he has had grandchildren who follow the catholic faith and speak polish are undeserving of living in Poland and have their children be considered polish ?

2018-09-22 05:34:54 UTC

Ahh okay, so would you be okay with lndia closing its' borders and denying immigration? @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:34:56 UTC

My poltical tradition is very different than his, we share a language but anyone can learn a langauge, and holidays, I mean i guess but it doesn't seem like that big of an issue to me

2018-09-22 05:34:59 UTC


2018-09-22 05:35:03 UTC

I want india to be more open

2018-09-22 05:35:10 UTC

and hopefully reunify with pakistan

2018-09-22 05:35:19 UTC

because india is alreasy diverse as fuck

2018-09-22 05:35:22 UTC

Languages are always able to be learned

2018-09-22 05:35:24 UTC

we have 6 main lanauge famalies

2018-09-22 05:35:33 UTC

lt depends on how well integrated they are @Outboarduniform

2018-09-22 05:35:35 UTC

Do you respect the word of MLK @Mord

2018-09-22 05:35:37 UTC

most of which have different roots and are unrecognnizable to each other

2018-09-22 05:35:38 UTC

god damit

2018-09-22 05:35:47 UTC

Most of his statements are almost infallible

2018-09-22 05:35:52 UTC

all Americans share the same foundational political tradition, though different geographies and parties will add much to it that'll make them seem completely distinct

2018-09-22 05:35:56 UTC

indo european ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-09-22 05:35:59 UTC

out imma let you and usa handle this

2018-09-22 05:36:00 UTC

Martin Luther King?

2018-09-22 05:36:05 UTC

I'm not gonna dog pile this much

2018-09-22 05:36:16 UTC


2018-09-22 05:36:18 UTC
2018-09-22 05:36:29 UTC

What statements do you consider infallible

2018-09-22 05:37:00 UTC

โ€œI have a dream that one day my 4 little children will not be judged based on the color of their skin but by the content of their character โ€

2018-09-22 05:37:06 UTC

How can you criticize this ?

2018-09-22 05:37:23 UTC

@Outboarduniform bruh you haven't talked to an ethno nationalist before have you?

2018-09-22 05:37:41 UTC

l take everything by MLK with a grain of salt because much of his stuff is plagiarized and he was not the ethical savant he claimed to be

2018-09-22 05:37:57 UTC

Didn't he plagiarize Gandhi lol

2018-09-22 05:38:01 UTC

MLK was a reverend and he spoke the word of god

2018-09-22 05:38:06 UTC

are you talking about the Hoover stuff

2018-09-22 05:38:10 UTC

No he plagarized his seminar thesis

2018-09-22 05:38:14 UTC

l can criticize it because it's just a dream

2018-09-22 05:38:15 UTC

take that with a grain of salt considering that the Hoover FBI was very political

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2018-09-22 05:38:17 UTC

but it really doesn't effect his later ideas

2018-09-22 05:38:25 UTC

And true

2018-09-22 05:38:39 UTC

hold on a moment l have some screencaps about MLK

2018-09-22 05:38:53 UTC

Hoover? As in the pres during the great depression

2018-09-22 05:38:54 UTC

Look MLK's character doesn't matter when talking about his ideas.

2018-09-22 05:39:10 UTC

NO the fbi director who was the worst person ever

2018-09-22 05:39:13 UTC

and the president

2018-09-22 05:39:15 UTC

But can you criticize that statement

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2018-09-22 05:39:17 UTC
2018-09-22 05:39:45 UTC

come on morb stay with us

2018-09-22 05:39:49 UTC

let's talk about the ideas

2018-09-22 05:39:49 UTC

Also thatโ€™s just college essay plagiarism it describes dude

2018-09-22 05:39:52 UTC

Martin Luther King was assassinated where I grew up

2018-09-22 05:39:55 UTC

Nothing to do with his doctrine

2018-09-22 05:40:00 UTC

thanks blizcon

2018-09-22 05:40:09 UTC

youโ€™re welcome

2018-09-22 05:40:16 UTC

lt means that his doctorate is invalid and that many of his ideas were not his own

2018-09-22 05:40:18 UTC

Okay im sorry no dogpilling

2018-09-22 05:40:27 UTC

But does it detract from the merit of those ideas?

2018-09-22 05:40:32 UTC

Or the content themselves?

2018-09-22 05:40:47 UTC

It really doesn't matter, lets get back to arguing about the statement per se

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2018-09-22 05:40:53 UTC

You do realize that integration has had very little if any positive effects on the black community

2018-09-22 05:40:53 UTC

You said it was just a dream.

2018-09-22 05:41:01 UTC

Yes it has

2018-09-22 05:41:03 UTC

I don't think it makes too much difference considering he didn't go into academics

2018-09-22 05:41:12 UTC

The works cited for plagiarism were literally โ€œthe development of Buddhismโ€

2018-09-22 05:41:19 UTC

I was honestly expecting you to post the Hoover FBI stuff on MLK

2018-09-22 05:41:27 UTC

The war on drugs has a negative effect but education rates amongst african communites are much higher now

2018-09-22 05:41:37 UTC

poverty and crime has also decreased

2018-09-22 05:41:53 UTC

what's correlation and causation is hard to determine but it hasn't come anywhere near failing

2018-09-22 05:41:57 UTC

The problem with the black community is that the nuclear family has dissolved within it

2018-09-22 05:41:57 UTC

>poverty and crime has also decreased

2018-09-22 05:42:00 UTC


2018-09-22 05:42:17 UTC

Yea not when ghettoization still exists lol

2018-09-22 05:42:20 UTC

If the nuclear family was emphasized and subsidized we could work more towards fixing it

2018-09-22 05:42:23 UTC

now is there a correlation between that and the civil rights movement?

2018-09-22 05:42:34 UTC

Can you really look at the black community today and say it has improved since the 60's lmao

2018-09-22 05:42:40 UTC

Yes I can.

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2018-09-22 05:42:48 UTC

They have equal rights theoretically now.

2018-09-22 05:42:53 UTC

poverty I'm sure is down

2018-09-22 05:42:54 UTC

Like what?

2018-09-22 05:43:03 UTC

What do you want them to improve more?

2018-09-22 05:43:06 UTC

The divorce rate?

2018-09-22 05:43:07 UTC

I don't see how such drastically increased economic opportunities couldn't decrease poverty at least a bit

2018-09-22 05:43:17 UTC

That's gone up everywhere

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2018-09-22 05:43:26 UTC

War on drugs policy

2018-09-22 05:43:51 UTC

Mord probably supported Virginia during Virginia vs. Loving

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2018-09-22 05:44:02 UTC

oof no background

2018-09-22 05:44:15 UTC

Little hard to read there man @agag

2018-09-22 05:44:15 UTC

n 1940, 60 percent of employed black women worked as domestic servants; today the number is down to 2.2 percent, while 60 percent hold white- collar jobs.

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2018-09-22 05:44:39 UTC

that's better

2018-09-22 05:44:41 UTC

44 and 1. In 1958, 44 percent of whites said they would move if a black family became their next door neighbor; today the figure is 1 percent.

18 and 86. In 1964, the year the great Civil Rights Act was passed, only 18 percent of whites claimed to have a friend who was black; today 86 percent say they do, while 87 percent of blacks assert they have white friends.

2018-09-22 05:44:49 UTC

We've gotten better

2018-09-22 05:44:55 UTC

It's not perfect but it's defenitly better

2018-09-22 05:45:59 UTC

They have equal rights but their divorce rates have skyrocketed, their dependency on government assistance programs has done the same, they drove out every last white business owner within the communities they lived in, which has crippled their employment and ability to establish businesses and get jobs, all just to sit at the same table as a white man eating eggs for breakfast.

2018-09-22 05:46:35 UTC

Mord are you defending segregation

2018-09-22 05:46:35 UTC

When the race riots of the 60's happened, all that did was push whites away farther from their communites.

2018-09-22 05:46:50 UTC

Yea the white flight

2018-09-22 05:46:53 UTC

l am an ethnic nationalist, segregation didn't go far enough

2018-09-22 05:47:00 UTC

it's more than eating at the same table as a white man

2018-09-22 05:47:05 UTC

โ€œSegregation didnโ€™t go far enoughโ€

2018-09-22 05:47:06 UTC

it's economic opportunities in general

2018-09-22 05:47:09 UTC

ideally there wouldn't even be whites only water fountains

2018-09-22 05:47:21 UTC

there's a reason they passed the CRA using the Commerce Clause and not the 14th Amendment

2018-09-22 05:47:22 UTC

Like Morb any facts?

2018-09-22 05:47:23 UTC

@agag they destroyed that by driving out white business owners

2018-09-22 05:47:29 UTC

THe divore rate is falling everywhere

2018-09-22 05:47:33 UTC

that's the price of freedom

2018-09-22 05:47:34 UTC

I think Brown v Board of Education went far enough tbh

2018-09-22 05:47:37 UTC

live wth it

2018-09-22 05:47:45 UTC

>the divorce rate is falling

2018-09-22 05:47:47 UTC

@Mord but you can clearly see that their poverty rate has decreased significantly since desegregation

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2018-09-22 05:48:02 UTC

@Hadou Divinity Mercurius Brown v Board of Education was inevitable

2018-09-22 05:48:09 UTC

I mesnt divorce rate was rising in all populations

2018-09-22 05:48:15 UTC

divorce rate is going up nationwide

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2018-09-22 05:48:18 UTC

Divorce rates are like 40+ percent in the US, that is up so much from where it was even 50 years ago

2018-09-22 05:48:19 UTC

It's not a problem inherent to the african american community

2018-09-22 05:48:26 UTC

Yeah and that's fine by me

2018-09-22 05:48:27 UTC

Yes it is

2018-09-22 05:48:30 UTC

why is that bad?

2018-09-22 05:48:32 UTC

Because it is a broken home

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2018-09-22 05:48:36 UTC

Thatโ€™s not even a black centered problem

2018-09-22 05:48:40 UTC

divorce is pretty objectively bad for society

2018-09-22 05:48:40 UTC

Thatโ€™s happening everywhere

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and it destroys the family unit

2018-09-22 05:48:46 UTC

lt is higher in black families

2018-09-22 05:48:47 UTC

Not necesarily

2018-09-22 05:48:59 UTC

>why is marriages breaking and Childrrn losing parents a bad thing @Mord @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:49:04 UTC

Stop being autistic

2018-09-22 05:49:05 UTC

prehaps divorce is the result of an abusive relationship in which it is preferd

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I mean the black abortion rate though

2018-09-22 05:49:16 UTC

@Mord it's not even that much higher among blacks

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It's the price of freedom

2018-09-22 05:49:33 UTC

no it's not

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NO fap plz don't start.

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asian <:Thonk:362811285869559808>

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Why do Hispanics have a lower divorce rate

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lt is still substantial considering how small the black population is compared to whites @agag

2018-09-22 05:49:43 UTC

Whoring is not freedom

2018-09-22 05:49:55 UTC

@Mord this is percentage though

2018-09-22 05:49:56 UTC

Just barley above

2018-09-22 05:50:01 UTC

We can argue broken homes

2018-09-22 05:50:07 UTC

not all divorce happens with kids involved

2018-09-22 05:50:14 UTC

Hispanics have a large focus on the family unit @Outboarduniform

2018-09-22 05:50:16 UTC

also, whoring is great if you wear a cnodom

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Hispanics are Catholic

2018-09-22 05:50:26 UTC

Would you say ghettos have gotten better

2018-09-22 05:50:27 UTC

@Mord because theyโ€™re Catholics

2018-09-22 05:50:38 UTC

Religion helps marriages

2018-09-22 05:50:41 UTC

Catholics be wild coming from one

2018-09-22 05:50:49 UTC

@Hadou Divinity Mercurius that was happening under segregation too

2018-09-22 05:51:00 UTC

Maybe it teaches women to stay in abusive relationships or not use birth control properly...

2018-09-22 05:51:11 UTC


Don't start what?

It's you blabbering about divorces, children without parents and whoring being good things

2018-09-22 05:51:13 UTC

NoFap i know your dying to tell me how bad sex is but plz

2018-09-22 05:51:22 UTC

No retard

2018-09-22 05:51:24 UTC

I never said children without parents is a good thing.

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I said divorce doesn't have to be related to children without parent if we placed values better.

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>whoring is great if you wear a condom

No it's not, it statistically makes people less happier @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:51:58 UTC

ubanization began with the Great Migration, when blacks moved north from the south

2018-09-22 05:52:02 UTC

They are less satisfied with their sex life

2018-09-22 05:52:08 UTC

It's a choice they make

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And leads to divorces

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let them make it

2018-09-22 05:52:15 UTC

It doesn't affect you

2018-09-22 05:52:16 UTC

and ghettoes have almost certainly been made worse by drug policies

2018-09-22 05:52:23 UTC

Plz stop while we talk about policy

2018-09-22 05:52:23 UTC

The point l was trying to make earlier is that what blacks *should* have done is congregate themselves in their own communities and say "you know what, we don't need white people". They should have established their own businesses, their own schools, their own everything. Why do they need whites to do it for them. Why couldn't they desire to do it themselves.

2018-09-22 05:52:35 UTC

how can you do that without resources

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2018-09-22 05:52:47 UTC

"muh choice"

If a child does something retarded like crossing a highway, you stop him @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:52:48 UTC

Why aren't you doing that then?

2018-09-22 05:52:53 UTC

But instead, they burned down their own communities and prevented anyone from wanting to establish a business there

2018-09-22 05:53:04 UTC

If you want an ethnostate why don't you go and form your own community?

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If it was that easy.

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and has ruined those communities to this day

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@Mord hard to create your own schools when youโ€™re stigmatized for trying to and beaten down for the idea of it

2018-09-22 05:53:15 UTC

you can't really do that anymore

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@Outboarduniform are you trying to say tthere weren't black only schools

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oh that was a response to you @Somedudewithaname

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@Noxar I'll deal with you later.

2018-09-22 05:53:49 UTC

because there absolutely were

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Otherwise it will all go down the shiter

2018-09-22 05:53:55 UTC

Yeah that was the point.

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Separate but equal had black schools lol

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IT's not a realistic option.

2018-09-22 05:54:16 UTC

no I mean legally

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@Mord the schools were run down and extraordinarily shitty

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You might "deal with *me*"
But I won't deal with someone who says fucking 30 people a year is great as long as you wear contraception and that divorces are amazing

2018-09-22 05:54:47 UTC

The education provided was laughable

2018-09-22 05:55:04 UTC

So putting them in white schools and making those schools shitty was the answer?

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Some were more equal than others

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You could say

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No fap i understand you odn't like sex and think women are whores bu im not focused on you so byeeee

2018-09-22 05:55:20 UTC

@Mord how does putting black people into white schools make them shitty

2018-09-22 05:55:25 UTC

@Mord Those schools weren't made shitty.

2018-09-22 05:55:27 UTC

Why couldn't the black communities find ways to improve their own schools

2018-09-22 05:55:30 UTC

They we're integrated.

2018-09-22 05:55:32 UTC

restrictive covenants are unenforceable nowadays, that was a major barrier to integrated communities before @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:55:39 UTC

Because they weren't allowed economic mobility.

2018-09-22 05:55:50 UTC

and it has been shown throwing money at schools does not help with educational quality

2018-09-22 05:55:56 UTC

Getting a college degree as an african american during segregation was difficult.

2018-09-22 05:56:00 UTC


"You don't like sex"

Can you stop being retarded

2018-09-22 05:56:07 UTC

@Mord how can the black communities improve their own schools without money, resources, or representation

2018-09-22 05:56:09 UTC

And also, college degree's among african americans are more and more common now.

2018-09-22 05:56:19 UTC

you didn't need a college degree in 1955 @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 05:56:22 UTC

Where do you think money or education come from?

2018-09-22 05:56:33 UTC

This isnโ€™t 1955 @Mord

2018-09-22 05:56:33 UTC

local tax revenue

2018-09-22 05:56:37 UTC

If you want to open a school or improve your community yeah you kind of did

2018-09-22 05:56:44 UTC

local tax on what?

2018-09-22 05:56:46 UTC

again with the servant jobs they had?

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