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Occitans, Normans, Basques, Bretons, etc.
Welly your idenity is an arbitrary cut off
the same in Germany
Cause different fench people will have different idenitits
I don't see what the overall unifier even is
Because ethnicity does not determine culture, identity, and religion if said person has assimilated into that society
would you not see identity politics between a Saxon and a Bavarian or a Norman and an Occitan
I'm not sure what the french socalist and the right wingerswould have in common
Okay im an american fro ma generally liberal area
do i share anything in common with some dude from the rural south?
But we still both consider ourselves american
that's a pretty destructive attitude
we both have a common idenity
you do share many things in common with some dude from the rural south
You are both American, you are both white presumably, you both may share the same religion, etc..
nope not white
though we may share the same religio
What are you
but our views on it may be different
shared language, shared history, shared political traditions, shared holidays, etc.
the asian kind
So you’re saying an Italian immigrant to Poland who’s family has been living in Poland for 40 years and he has had grandchildren who follow the catholic faith and speak polish are undeserving of living in Poland and have their children be considered polish ?
Ahh okay, so would you be okay with lndia closing its' borders and denying immigration? @Somedudewithaname
My poltical tradition is very different than his, we share a language but anyone can learn a langauge, and holidays, I mean i guess but it doesn't seem like that big of an issue to me
I want india to be more open
and hopefully reunify with pakistan
because india is alreasy diverse as fuck
Languages are always able to be learned
we have 6 main lanauge famalies
most of which have different roots and are unrecognnizable to each other
Most of his statements are almost infallible
all Americans share the same foundational political tradition, though different geographies and parties will add much to it that'll make them seem completely distinct
indo european 👌
out imma let you and usa handle this
Martin Luther King?
I'm not gonna dog pile this much
What statements do you consider infallible
“I have a dream that one day my 4 little children will not be judged based on the color of their skin but by the content of their character ”
How can you criticize this ?
@Outboarduniform bruh you haven't talked to an ethno nationalist before have you?
l take everything by MLK with a grain of salt because much of his stuff is plagiarized and he was not the ethical savant he claimed to be
Didn't he plagiarize Gandhi lol
MLK was a reverend and he spoke the word of god
are you talking about the Hoover stuff
No he plagarized his seminar thesis
l can criticize it because it's just a dream
take that with a grain of salt considering that the Hoover FBI was very political
but it really doesn't effect his later ideas
hold on a moment l have some screencaps about MLK
Hoover? As in the pres during the great depression
Look MLK's character doesn't matter when talking about his ideas.
NO the fbi director who was the worst person ever
and the president
But can you criticize that statement
come on morb stay with us
let's talk about the ideas
Also that’s just college essay plagiarism it describes dude
Martin Luther King was assassinated where I grew up
Nothing to do with his doctrine
lt means that his doctorate is invalid and that many of his ideas were not his own
Okay im sorry no dogpilling
But does it detract from the merit of those ideas?
Or the content themselves?
It really doesn't matter, lets get back to arguing about the statement per se
You do realize that integration has had very little if any positive effects on the black community
You said it was just a dream.
Yes it has
I don't think it makes too much difference considering he didn't go into academics
The works cited for plagiarism were literally “the development of Buddhism”
I was honestly expecting you to post the Hoover FBI stuff on MLK
The war on drugs has a negative effect but education rates amongst african communites are much higher now
poverty and crime has also decreased
what's correlation and causation is hard to determine but it hasn't come anywhere near failing
The problem with the black community is that the nuclear family has dissolved within it
>poverty and crime has also decreased
Yea not when ghettoization still exists lol
If the nuclear family was emphasized and subsidized we could work more towards fixing it
now is there a correlation between that and the civil rights movement?
Can you really look at the black community today and say it has improved since the 60's lmao
Yes I can.
They have equal rights theoretically now.
poverty I'm sure is down
What do you want them to improve more?
The divorce rate?
I don't see how such drastically increased economic opportunities couldn't decrease poverty at least a bit
That's gone up everywhere
War on drugs policy
Mord probably supported Virginia during Virginia vs. Loving
oof no background
n 1940, 60 percent of employed black women worked as domestic servants; today the number is down to 2.2 percent, while 60 percent hold white- collar jobs.
44 and 1. In 1958, 44 percent of whites said they would move if a black family became their next door neighbor; today the figure is 1 percent.
18 and 86. In 1964, the year the great Civil Rights Act was passed, only 18 percent of whites claimed to have a friend who was black; today 86 percent say they do, while 87 percent of blacks assert they have white friends.
We've gotten better
It's not perfect but it's defenitly better
They have equal rights but their divorce rates have skyrocketed, their dependency on government assistance programs has done the same, they drove out every last white business owner within the communities they lived in, which has crippled their employment and ability to establish businesses and get jobs, all just to sit at the same table as a white man eating eggs for breakfast.
Mord are you defending segregation
When the race riots of the 60's happened, all that did was push whites away farther from their communites.
Yea the white flight
l am an ethnic nationalist, segregation didn't go far enough
it's more than eating at the same table as a white man
“Segregation didn’t go far enough”
it's economic opportunities in general
ideally there wouldn't even be whites only water fountains
there's a reason they passed the CRA using the Commerce Clause and not the 14th Amendment
Like Morb any facts?
THe divore rate is falling everywhere
that's the price of freedom
I think Brown v Board of Education went far enough tbh
live wth it
>the divorce rate is falling
@Mord but you can clearly see that their poverty rate has decreased significantly since desegregation
@Hadou Divinity Mercurius Brown v Board of Education was inevitable
I mesnt divorce rate was rising in all populations
divorce rate is going up nationwide
Divorce rates are like 40+ percent in the US, that is up so much from where it was even 50 years ago
It's not a problem inherent to the african american community
Yeah and that's fine by me
Yes it is
why is that bad?
Because it is a broken home
That’s not even a black centered problem
divorce is pretty objectively bad for society
That’s happening everywhere
and it destroys the family unit
lt is higher in black families
Stop being autistic
prehaps divorce is the result of an abusive relationship in which it is preferd
I mean the black abortion rate though
It's the price of freedom
no it's not
NO fap plz don't start.
Why do Hispanics have a lower divorce rate
lt is still substantial considering how small the black population is compared to whites @agag
Whoring is not freedom
Just barley above
We can argue broken homes
not all divorce happens with kids involved
also, whoring is great if you wear a cnodom
Hispanics are Catholic
Would you say ghettos have gotten better
Religion helps marriages
Catholics be wild coming from one
Maybe it teaches women to stay in abusive relationships or not use birth control properly...
Don't start what?
It's you blabbering about divorces, children without parents and whoring being good things
NoFap i know your dying to tell me how bad sex is but plz
I never said children without parents is a good thing.
I said divorce doesn't have to be related to children without parent if we placed values better.
>whoring is great if you wear a condom
No it's not, it statistically makes people less happier @Somedudewithaname
ubanization began with the Great Migration, when blacks moved north from the south
They are less satisfied with their sex life
It's a choice they make
And leads to divorces
let them make it
It doesn't affect you
and ghettoes have almost certainly been made worse by drug policies
Plz stop while we talk about policy
The point l was trying to make earlier is that what blacks *should* have done is congregate themselves in their own communities and say "you know what, we don't need white people". They should have established their own businesses, their own schools, their own everything. Why do they need whites to do it for them. Why couldn't they desire to do it themselves.
how can you do that without resources
If a child does something retarded like crossing a highway, you stop him @Somedudewithaname
Why aren't you doing that then?
But instead, they burned down their own communities and prevented anyone from wanting to establish a business there
If you want an ethnostate why don't you go and form your own community?
If it was that easy.
and has ruined those communities to this day
@Mord hard to create your own schools when you’re stigmatized for trying to and beaten down for the idea of it
you can't really do that anymore
@Outboarduniform are you trying to say tthere weren't black only schools
because there absolutely were
Otherwise it will all go down the shiter
Yeah that was the point.
Separate but equal had black schools lol
IT's not a realistic option.
no I mean legally
You might "deal with *me*"
But I won't deal with someone who says fucking 30 people a year is great as long as you wear contraception and that divorces are amazing
The education provided was laughable
So putting them in white schools and making those schools shitty was the answer?
Some were more equal than others
You could say
No fap i understand you odn't like sex and think women are whores bu im not focused on you so byeeee
@Mord how does putting black people into white schools make them shitty
Why couldn't the black communities find ways to improve their own schools
They we're integrated.
restrictive covenants are unenforceable nowadays, that was a major barrier to integrated communities before @Somedudewithaname
Because they weren't allowed economic mobility.
and it has been shown throwing money at schools does not help with educational quality
Getting a college degree as an african american during segregation was difficult.
@Mord how can the black communities improve their own schools without money, resources, or representation
And also, college degree's among african americans are more and more common now.
Where do you think money or education come from?
local tax revenue
If you want to open a school or improve your community yeah you kind of did
local tax on what?
again with the servant jobs they had?