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2018-09-17 23:43:45 UTC

What do you feel about trannies asking for special attention @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-17 23:43:53 UTC

Like okay,

2018-09-17 23:43:55 UTC

I thought you cared about society @Somedudewithaname Now you are saying you don't care about how people feel?

2018-09-17 23:44:08 UTC

so I think it's fair enough that we give them special attention when they need or request it.

2018-09-17 23:44:12 UTC

Why?

2018-09-17 23:44:13 UTC

BUt i think it's a loaded question

2018-09-17 23:44:22 UTC

I'm not asking loaded questions

2018-09-17 23:44:24 UTC

I think anyone whoo needs special attention should get it.

2018-09-17 23:44:30 UTC

No i trust you bandito

2018-09-17 23:44:47 UTC

So what about them has them needing special attention?

2018-09-17 23:45:17 UTC

Okay so, I for one am of the opinion that transgenderism is a result of biological and social pressures

2018-09-17 23:45:36 UTC

which one is more important? I'm not sure the jury is still out on that.

2018-09-17 23:46:14 UTC

BUt becuase of body dysmorphia being caused by external factors to the person's own cohices, I belieive it is fair for them to get special treatment.

2018-09-17 23:46:20 UTC

Do you acknowledge that most transgenders recognize their biological sex as a thing, but they purposely say it means nothing on who they are as a person?

2018-09-17 23:46:47 UTC

I mean how much would your sex matter to you as a person if you lived outside of a society?

2018-09-17 23:46:48 UTC

I

2018-09-17 23:46:57 UTC

Medically-speaking

2018-09-17 23:47:00 UTC

Physically-speaking

2018-09-17 23:47:01 UTC

I really don't have the answer to that question.

2018-09-17 23:47:14 UTC

Ugh and when speaking about biolgical sex its not so clear cut

2018-09-17 23:47:15 UTC

Understanding where men and women are inherently different

2018-09-17 23:47:23 UTC

we have priamry and secondary sexual characteristics

2018-09-17 23:47:33 UTC

Please elaborate on that

2018-09-17 23:47:43 UTC

the XY XX dichotmy is punctuated by alterations in that chromosome set

2018-09-17 23:47:49 UTC

we can have xxy Xyy and such

2018-09-17 23:47:57 UTC

Where would these people fall in?

2018-09-17 23:48:02 UTC

But nothing in nature is 50/50

2018-09-17 23:48:11 UTC

It's an exception but exceptions raise problems in categorization

2018-09-17 23:48:11 UTC

im srs

2018-09-17 23:48:15 UTC

that wasnt a shitpost

2018-09-17 23:48:17 UTC

Alright

2018-09-17 23:48:23 UTC

But you've taken high school biology

2018-09-17 23:48:25 UTC

Yes?

2018-09-17 23:48:26 UTC

We can say male and female

2018-09-17 23:48:29 UTC

nigger im an emt

2018-09-17 23:48:32 UTC

I'm a biology major lol

2018-09-17 23:48:40 UTC

You know there are dominant and recessive genes right?

2018-09-17 23:48:44 UTC

Yes ofc.

2018-09-17 23:48:45 UTC

ofc

2018-09-17 23:48:49 UTC

Your point?

2018-09-17 23:49:43 UTC

There will always be a dominant gene active within the DNA code, so you will have more male or more female. Their body biologically speaking will be attended with the knowledge that they are predominantly male or female, with a few exceptions to their physical appearance.

2018-09-17 23:49:58 UTC

That's not how that woks

2018-09-17 23:50:07 UTC

It's the same way we define race and ethnicity. If I'm 1% Asian, that doesn't mean I should be seen as that 1%

2018-09-17 23:50:13 UTC

Okay wait i misread that

2018-09-17 23:50:20 UTC

thats exactly how it works

2018-09-17 23:50:27 UTC

If I'm 40% black and 60% white

2018-09-17 23:50:48 UTC

I'm predominantly white with some black biological characteristics

2018-09-17 23:50:55 UTC

What makes you primarily a mna then?

2018-09-17 23:50:56 UTC

Man

2018-09-17 23:51:04 UTC

Is it your biology or your mental state?

2018-09-17 23:51:13 UTC

Mental has nothing to do with anything

2018-09-17 23:51:16 UTC

both are tied to eachother

2018-09-17 23:51:24 UTC

Are we speaking priamrily about biology here?

2018-09-17 23:51:28 UTC

Okay we can focus on that.

2018-09-17 23:51:34 UTC

Because the mind is EXCEPTIONALLY chaotic and able to be changed with enviroment, people ,and so many other factors

2018-09-17 23:51:45 UTC

We can get to that later.

2018-09-17 23:52:05 UTC

I'm telling you that most if not all transgenders OPENLY acknowledge their biological sex

2018-09-17 23:52:13 UTC

Yeah fair enough

2018-09-17 23:52:20 UTC

So?

2018-09-17 23:53:03 UTC

But they say that "gender" is how they should be working in society or how they should be "seen".

2018-09-17 23:53:08 UTC

Example

2018-09-17 23:53:16 UTC

There is a guy named Phil

2018-09-17 23:53:22 UTC

Phil is a male biologically speaking

2018-09-17 23:53:27 UTC

He knows this

2018-09-17 23:53:41 UTC

Yes okay..

2018-09-17 23:53:42 UTC

But he likes the things that society claims is for females, like gardening and knitting

2018-09-17 23:53:49 UTC

Sure.

2018-09-17 23:53:55 UTC

He despises sports and all the "tough" stuff

2018-09-17 23:54:00 UTC

This doesn't make him any less of a man

2018-09-17 23:54:01 UTC

Fair enough.

2018-09-17 23:54:07 UTC

To some it does.

2018-09-17 23:54:10 UTC

And it might to him.

2018-09-17 23:54:15 UTC

But I'm telling you

2018-09-17 23:54:18 UTC

Biologically speaking

2018-09-17 23:54:20 UTC

It doesn't

2018-09-17 23:54:23 UTC

Your peception on what makes you a man might differ from his.

2018-09-17 23:54:27 UTC

The "quota" of males has changed

2018-09-17 23:54:37 UTC

Oky biologically speaking

2018-09-17 23:54:38 UTC

fair

2018-09-17 23:54:44 UTC

But then we arise to an issue

2018-09-17 23:55:01 UTC

Phil starts changing his appearance and the way he speaks to match the modern "female"

2018-09-17 23:55:02 UTC

No harm

2018-09-17 23:55:13 UTC

fair enough

2018-09-17 23:55:21 UTC

He's wearing make-up, and he's trying on clothing that is typically for females

2018-09-17 23:55:48 UTC

And psychologically, he's pushing away the fact that he is biologically male

2018-09-17 23:56:04 UTC

Okay...

2018-09-17 23:56:07 UTC

the issue is?

2018-09-17 23:56:08 UTC

He starts cross-dressing, and enduring surgeries

2018-09-17 23:56:14 UTC

Changing his hormones

2018-09-17 23:56:22 UTC

Taking pills he should have to take

2018-09-17 23:56:41 UTC

And he starts to throw away what it means to be "male".

2018-09-17 23:56:50 UTC

Okay wait

2018-09-17 23:56:51 UTC

So he places himself into this "female" mindset

2018-09-17 23:56:59 UTC

before we go on lets define terms?

2018-09-17 23:57:02 UTC

Alright

2018-09-17 23:57:03 UTC

If that's okay with you?

2018-09-17 23:57:13 UTC

WE use Male and Female to refer to biolgocial gender

2018-09-17 23:57:21 UTC

Yes

2018-09-17 23:57:22 UTC

and Man and WOman to refer to gender

2018-09-17 23:57:32 UTC

I mean male and female to refer to biological sex

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