According to them they can marry

@Noxar right, lots of men argue the costs outweigh the benefits because the State is so skewed to women

A Christian state should only recognize Christian organized marriages.

When she's sick of you, she takes your money and kids then finds a new dick. Sad!

as a legal marriage

Yeah, divorces aren’t allowed

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 no doubt, but what other choice you have? Become MGTOW faggot and let your society die out? MGTOW = Feminism

The Catholic Church forbids abortion

And divorce

It's tough, MGTOW is equally retarded

always get a prenup, even if you love your wife

Apparently you can divorce in Islam

Gotta stick together fellas

I won’t get a prenup because divorces don’t exist

idk man

what if you want to get a divorce

I can’t

It’s not permitted

Wife becomes a junkie, cheats on you constantly

She get gatted

<:pepegun:356316958141972501>

I consider all divorced Christians as still married, but the state doesn't.

i honestly don't understand why you people hold religion to such a high lvl. keep your religion to yourself pls and let others live their life.

I miss my old life where there was less politics

@Gen_Boi ?

@Gen_Boi because we are told to love our neighbor

What defines a liberal and conservative is "do you want kids"

And if I love my neighbor I can’t let him go to hell

@Gen_Boi If you understood a bit about Religious people you'd know it's their entire fundamentalism, may I ask, what's your fundamentalism?

Luke 16:18

**Luke 16:18 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<18> "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. ```

can we literally just ban divorce

If you are white and marry within your race and have multiple kids you're really just virtue signaling if you say you're liberal

@Logical-Scholar what do you mean fundamentalism?

What about fucking a woman without marrying after divorce

@Gen_Boi we live in a society, how people live directly affects our lives. What's so hard to understand about that concept

Everyone these days thinks we live independently from other humans or what

Matthew 5:32

**Matthew 5:32 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<32> But I say to you that anyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of unchastity, causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. ```

Morals decaying around you affects you

It's not hard

@Gen_Boi Religious people in politics use their Religion as their fundamental reasoning, it's not a reason for you to automatically discard their general reasoning.

So if I divorce, the wife commits adultery?

Women have slept with 50 men by the time they reach 25

@Noxar but why would you bar people from marrying simply cuz they're not religious

That affects you

@TradChad Prenup is to protect you from your wife not to cover you incase you want a divorce

We don't even know your fundamentalism so there is no way to properly trust you @Gen_Boi

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 it's close to 40

Just because you dont believe in divorce doesnt mean that a woman wont take everything you own from you

How can I get a prenup if the marriage can never end

@Logical-Scholar still you can't simply use "well it's my religion" as an argument. you need to back it up

@TradChad its not a plan for the marriage to end

@TradChad If it can happen to the greats it can happen to you

its just saying that if she tries to fuck you over she wont be able to

@Gen_Boi In a representative democracy you technically can, you just need popularity.

Wanting to have a prenup isn’t a good sign

@Gen_Boi I wouldn't, I'm agnostic.

It won’t happen man because I am marrying to sweetest girl I’ve ever met

No prenup

You are a brave man

I pray to God you don't regret that in 30 years

i think i just fucked myself

women are vile creatures and will gladly destroy you, your marriage, and your life

Hey man

@stupid that's ugly

@Logical-Scholar well if you want to get to know my views we can talk about it. what do you wanna know about?

no like i might get fired

Having a prenup is like wearing a condom to your marriage

Condoms are banned

when you meet a woman that isn't a vile creature, marry that bb

no its not at all

What isn't love is business.

@Gen_Boi And mind you, again Religion may be the reason they are in politics but that doesn't mean it always is their policies.

My shekels are my business.

speaking of vile creatures, my coworker might get me fired

its literally just legal protection from if your woman decides to fuck you over, i would say its a neccessity today

we were casually debating about abortion, a mistake in the first place

Bringing up prenups would destroy the romance completely

@Malin yeah of course the femoid doesnt like the idea of a prenup haha

"Casually debating abortion"

A good devout Christian will constantly try improve himself to fit the morals, norms and values of the Bible

it got slightly toasty and she called me some rude names, so i said "yeah, ur so cool because u fuck dudes"

I can't do that.

then she went off crying and said i called her a whore

Prenup - premarital arrangement (who gets what in case of diborce?)

@Logical-Scholar do you believe you can hold moral without being religious?

Reading this editorial for English class, thoughts?

Would help if it wasn't sideways

America has too many laws.

That is my opinion

Too lazy to flip it

@SweetieSquad hahaha yeah waited for that one. I have my own valuable stuff though and when I get married I don’t mind risk to lose it all

when i think about it my boss will probably side with me

America needs like 4 laws
No Drugs
No Homos
No Murder
No Polluting

@Gen_Boi No morals that I would recognize, you can support morals without being Christian but I'd be unsure why one would.

@Malin I will not make you sign a prenup because I know that you will never leave me

@Logical-Scholar i will constantly try to improve my world view through selfcritique of my views, which is why i enjoy hearing other viewpoints

@stupid if you have cameras that record audio you can prove that you never called her a whore

@stupid I hope so, women tears have been OP for too long

Time to nerf that shit

@TradChad never place your faith in man

especially not *wo*man

This should be better

@SweetieSquad she is not a man

Like you can support sex within marriage only without being Christian or Muslim or whatever but I'd be unsure why you'd want that

@stupid Call her a degenerate whore deserving of death inshallah.

Who else think that Obama actually did a pretty good job?

@SweetieSquad all of those except no homos also require no non- whites

@PainSeeker5 are you in hs

we actually do have cameras with audio <:FeelsSmugMan:356316580143169536>

@squash1 btfo

Lel

@Noxar
>allow homos
>ban non whites
every single time

use that to your advantage my man

@SweetieSquad yes

It’s right @PainSeeker5

@SweetieSquad that's not what I said

The thing is that you can never assume to 110% that someone will never betray you but if you actually get betrayed like that you have lost something more important than money @SweetieSquad @TradChad

American law is a fucking mess

Yea

@PainSeeker5 i assumed from the desks alone, fuck those desks

Ikr

@PainSeeker5 yeah I agree with the article

Shouldn't be a shock from an AnCap

Even plays well with the Kavanaugh situation

@SweetieSquad I said to get rid of those 3 things you need to get rid of non whites. There are white homos too, but not so many murderers.

Law focusing on too many details

Not enough time

@Gen_Boi If for example you have a Christian leader, or someone who claims to be like Donald Trump everyone will already know when he is doing something non-Christian so your leader will always have to stick to his Religious beliefs

Twisting information to get a convictionl

and whatever you may consider as morality isn't anything that's as famous as Christianity or even Islam

The law is not equipped to deal with every problem. "He said she said" crap clogs up the justice system

I could practically call whatever moral answers you have as taken out of a cult

if you are an atheist

well the western perception of good is generally based most closely off christian morals

because you will ultimately cherrypick whatever you personally like or dislike

The other SCOTUS candidates had cleaner backgrounds with same ideologies as Kavanough. It didn't have to be him and it shouldn't have been him.

couldnt the same go for an agnostic

@squash1 Define cleaner.

It's cute when atheists try to justify their moral beliefs on 'common sense'

@Logical-Scholar so did the people who created said religions, but that's impossible for you to rationalize as you believe in God

So we aren't going to get anywhere

@Logical-Scholar well what is wrong with following what you personally believe to be the right thing?

@Gen_Boi Hitler is an example of that actually

He didn't stick to any Christian morality or norms

he just wrote his own book of what is right or wrong according to him

and gained popularity

It's a bit like coming around and acting like your personal God

@Logical-Scholar and people who created religion did the same

@Logical-Scholar hitler did what he believed to be right. i don't see a problem in that

hahah okay

i ofcourse don't agree with his actions

@Kierketard No one can deny that someone who can do stuff like what he did to that woman should ever be able to get to positions as high as SCOTUS

but that doesn't make him evil to me

I mean he was just one example

Stalin as well he had no moral code to stick to

The thing is if we have Christian leaders we can easily know when they lie

for example any Democrat who claims to be Christian but protects anti-Christian laws

like Roe V. Wade

we know they lie about their faiths for popularity

so we know not to trust them

@Logical-Scholar He didn't gain popularity through his books tho

@squash1
1. We do not know the house
2. The witnesses claimed by her refute her
3. We do not know the time
4. She's refusing to give evidence
5. etc.

ultimately the goal humans have is achieving piece of mind. everything someone does is to achieve piece of mind. and everyone has their own way of doing it, wether it is through religion or being a hard worker

@squash1 Have you read 'To Kill A Mockingbird?' Do you remember the lesson in the novel?

@squash1 Not my point

She has outright refused to give the doctor's notes without getting what she wants.

If a Christian leader is constantly devout to his own morality it's easier to trust him in general

than some atheist whom we have no idea how he forms his morals

@Logical-Scholar would you trust a non religious candidate even if you would agree with his politics?

Not easily

I may dislike him but I can vote for him

And that's because

Kavanaugh has had 6 thorough background checks, and I believe at least 20 of the chick's friends have been interviewed between Congress, FBI, and the news agencies diggin' dirt. @squash1

in a lot of electoral systems in what you consider democratic countries or democracies

@Logical-Scholar you're making lots of great points

@squash1 i can definitely deny this

there is a tendency to only be so and so much choice

In Great Britain for example

i would want Brett in the supreme court even if he did grope Ford

Who doesnt want a chad in the scotus

you can vote LibDem, Conservative or Labour or else you won't win shit

^^^^^

in USA

iCloud touched my private parts

you can vote Republican or Democrat

or else you aren't winning shit

he does what he has to and does what he wants, doesnt take no for an answer, that is the sound of a man worthy of a position of power

lol

gary johnson

i dont want some meek weak pussy boy in any part of my government

So if I for example were to live in USA, I'd probably vote for a Republican who can fit at least some laws I like even if he is an atheist

because it'd be my best bet

I am glad Trump beat Clinton

If you didn't vote Darrell Castle you're literally not Christian

but I don't particularly like him

anything right

is better then clinton

@Logical-Scholar yeah im not a fan of the way people demonize the other side of politics and paint them as "the bad guy"
in the end it's 2 sides with the same goal(a better country)and the only difference they have is the way they wanna achieve that

We're all friends, goy.

>tfw just realized the tree stump is logical scholar

@StewieCman Disagree. Clinton is bad but McConnell is way worse.

personally i would vote independent. i'm simply against this whole "tactical voting" thing america has going on

I know you live in Netherlands right? it's easier to get into the Dutch parliament hence you have so many tiny parties

you even have a Muslim party

u mean Denk?

And I know it's a huge mess when you form coalitions

@squash1 also all politicians in america are inherently evil, and women are dumb as shit so i dont particularly care what a politician does to them in highschool

well yeah they solely focus on minorities

I support Senator Blumenthal for fucking a 16 year old girl

in Britain the minorities probably vote whatever party is the most liberal AND has a chance to win

Voting for independents is pointless lol

So Labour or LibDems

@Gen_Boi all forms of leftism are actively doing their best to deconstruct our civilization and weaken to the point it will be overrun by armed invasion or bred out of existence by allowing in immigrants.

They aren't bad guys, they are treasonous degenerates.

nah they the bad guys

fuck em

@Noxar most lefties are average people, the left doesn't solely consist of sjws

it's becoming nothing but sjw's and socialists

@StewieCman that'll mean the rightwing will take power

I find it hard to blame voters for anything politicians do btw because in representative parliaments you 99% of the time have sociopath politicians

true

Sociopathy makes it easy to achieve charisma skills of a politician

Hence they do so much horrible shit without blinking

personally i like zwitserlands system

You're making the case for Anarchy

me?

I am just stating objective facts that most politicians are Sociopaths, I don't necesarily think it's a bad thing

yeah, everyone recognizes the evil of the State yet won't embrace the concept of dismantling the State

*down with the gobernment*

it's so weird to me

@Gen_Boi so-called "swjs" are but a small fraction of Neo/cultural Marxist traitors. Yes most people are just mislead and indoctrinated with bullshit. however there is a point at which there's no way you will ever get them on your side, they are too far gone. Abandoning their beliefs would mean blowing up pillars on which stand their entire lives and all decisions they've made.

There is bad aspects of representative democracy imo

Not bad enough to dismantle the state

also being a Sociopath doesn't necessarily mean you are bad

The left has shifted quite a lot

it means you can do shitty stuff

It doesn't?

Yea let’s just abolish all government and see how that goes

You can be a sociopath and do literally nothing wrong your entire life

@PainSeeker5 it would be a long process ofcourse, wouldn't make sense to have anarchy overnight

Good

People have made rational decisions based on the State

At least you have common sense

Would be unfair to them

"**But on one big social issue, Republicans have become far more moderate over the years.**"

How would you go about dismantling the government

Only one party is moving.

But often Sociopaths can do things that are quite logically reasonable

but it requires some balls to do it