**Acts 7:2 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<2> Who said: Ye men, brethren, and fathers, hear. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charan. ```

Acts 7:2 NRSV

**Acts 7:2 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<2> And Stephen replied: "Brothers and fathers, listen to me. The God of glory appeared to our ancestor Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran, ```

why dra

haha

@Living The Dream 🍀 Can I call my dad "father"

Acts 7:2 KJV

**Acts 7:2 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<2> And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran, ```

@king is he?

Why are you a liar

@Living The Dream 🍀 answer the question

Why are protestants like this

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] he’s been saying it’s imperfect but an imperfect communion doesn’t mean damnation. Afaik

DRA is the best English translation of the Bible

If we were to take Matthew 23:9 literally, we should not call our actual fathers "father"

**Matthew 23:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<9> And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. ```

WOW!!!

Locusts and honey baby

i was looking in my bible

and the verse

This is getting outside the realm of interesting discussion ✌️

@Living The Dream 🍀 If we were to take Matthew 23:9 literally, we should not call our actual fathers "father"

**Matthew 23:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<9> And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. ```

matthew 23:9

**Matthew 23:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<9> And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. ```

is something you should read

If we were to take Matthew 23:9 literally, we should not call our actual fathers "father"
@Living The Dream 🍀

**Matthew 23:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<9> And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. ```

You should read Matthew 23:8 and stop ignoring the Bible

**Matthew 23:8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<8> But be not you called Rabbi. For one is your master; and all you are brethren. ```

@TradChad why 23:9?

Or read Matthew 23:7

**Matthew 23:7 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<7> And salutations in the market place, and to be called by men, Rabbi. ```

don't skip it

jesus

this is sad

@Living The Dream 🍀 lol you are literally ignoring the whole Bible in favor of a single verse

Why are you being so disingenuous

One verse holds power

You must be trolling

how?

Okay so only one verse holds power in the Bible

i love to you

If we were to take Matthew 23:9 literally, we should not call our actual fathers "father"

**Matthew 23:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<9> And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. ```

why is there going to be a black spiderman

tell me how?

Matthew 23:9 is the only verse that matters, ignore all others and you go to heaven

**Matthew 23:9 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<9> And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven. ```

What the fuck?

As long as I call no man father I will go to heaven?

@TradChad can you not break that down?

ha

My Bible is more than one verse.

i hate these small brained attacks against catholicism

at least give @TradChad something good to battle

sheesh

He is just a troll

probably

He literally took atheist arguments against Catholicism and is just spamming Matthew 23:9 and ignoring any greater context or meaning of the verse

**Matthew 23:9 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<9> And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven. ```

And refusing any and all arguments because his little atheist blog didn’t provide one

i

I heard InfoWars is getting renamed to CoincidenceWars because everything they notice is just a coincidence

apparently the Israelites were the only people who could handle gods message or something

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] he doesn’t really I don’t think. I think it’s more a matter of Jews chosen as a “priest class” rather than a “superior class”

@Living The Dream 🍀 hello atheist

Wh y do you ignore the Bible

I bet you haven’t even read the whole of Matthew 23

Just as there is nothing wrong with using the word father metaphorically, there is nothing wrong with calling our earthly parents “father” and “mother.” In doing so we are not giving our parents an elevated title or position that belongs only to God. Our earthly parents are worthy of honor, and we are to honor our parents daily in the spirit of Exodus 20:12, Matthew 15:4, and Ephesians 6:1–3.

**Exodus 20:12 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<12> Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you. ```

**Matthew 15:4 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<4> For God said, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'Whoever speaks evil of father or mother must surely die.' ```

@Kraftzmann the Free I mean the world is complex enough that it’s not inherently impossible to have infowars be mostly coincidences. I do have a lot of respect for Alex jones old stuff tho

Job 29:17

**Job 29:17 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<17> I broke the jaws of the wicked man, and out of his teeth I took away the prey. ```

Job 29:16

**Job 29:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<16> I was the father of the poor: and the cause which I knew not, I searched out most diligently. ```

i had to, look at my old notes i wrote down from a friend

Why did Job call himself a father of the poor

@TradChad someone they look up to

daa

@Gastjohn Undoubtedly some of the things they report on are coincidences, just not many

@Living The Dream 🍀 and the pope is someone we look up too

do you look up to your earthly father?

I look up to my priest as well

yahweh doesnt need to justify himself

@TradChad he does not represent me

lol

Why can’t I call my priest father just as the poor can call job father in job 29:16

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] the Jews in the Bible always have responded to calamity with change, and recognition that they brought it on themselves. Besides that idk

yes it is

Ok

@TradChad why would you?

**Job 29:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<16> I was the father of the poor: and the cause which I knew not, I searched out most diligently. ```

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409522-trump-gained-millions-from-questionable-tax-strategies-new-york-times

I had a dinterim semi exam

It was graded

the creator doesnt need to justify himself to the created

call him by his name that was given to him

thats a solid argument

>70% of my class failed

HA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

@Living The Dream 🍀 because they are the teachers and leaders of the church

The Uncreated Lord of The Omniverse has no need to explain Himself or otherwise "justify" *any* of His actions

>MEANWHILE MY GPA STAYS AT A 4.0

THIS IS TRULY EPIC

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] I don’t have a very literal interpretation or a very strong understanding so I can’t provide the fundie argument, besides I guess “he doesn’t need to”

So you think that an all powerful almighty god, owes you an answer? @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

@TradChad Why, Can't you call him by his name

given to him

Genesis 45:8

**Genesis 45:8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<8> Not by your counsel was I sent hither, but by the will of God: who hath made me as it were a father to Pharao, and lord of his whole house, and governor in all the land of Egypt. ```

@Living The Dream 🍀 when did I ever say I cannot call a priest by his name

@Gastjohn yeah

What is this charge you are making

Hell yeha

Smoke Meth

@TradChad# let me read this in kjv

Why

word for word

DRA is more accurate

hahhahahaha

Very little difference in Genesis

You're the one who implied the need for justification @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

At least for DRA vs KJV

Which is DRA

a lie

Haha

DRA isn’t a lie

Fun fact, DRA has both Sirach and Ecclesiasticus

DRA is straight from the vulgate

Which is straight from Greek

i bet you like the niv

This is why I use DRA for my BibleBot

It's tricky to get used to though

DRA is incredibly accurate

no sir

OK NEVER MIND AMPED BIBLE OR GO HOME

Kierkegaard is a cool boi

KJV based itself on newer translations

Which are based on other translations

That's what happens when you don't separate church and state

Kings commissioning bibles

kjv is clearly the bible that is word for word

Word for word from what

Lmao

They didn’t translate from the original Greek

for translation

They translated from newer translations

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] that wasn’t necessarily the best answer, it was just the one I happened to think of. Unless I misinterpreted what you said. In any case I’m not a fundie

Hebrew/Aramaic > Greek > Latin > English

If god created everything including morality, he doesn't need to abide by your definition of "fair".

KJV can’t be word for word because it’s basis for translation isn’t word for word

I'm going to compare

both of them

brb

Philippians 2:12

**Philippians 2:12 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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Shining as Lights in the World

<12> Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed me, not only in my presence, but much more now in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; ```

you stay here devil worshiper

Also DRA came out before KJV

InfoWars, AKA **The Beardmen**

Haha you ignore the Bible but call me a devil worshiper

Psalms 55:5

**Psalm 55:5 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<5> Fear and trembling come upon me, and horror overwhelms me. ```

Matthew 23:8

**Matthew 23:8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<8> But be not you called Rabbi. For one is your master; and all you are brethren. ```

lol

You literally copied notes from your friend that said that calling someone your father metaphorically is ok @Living The Dream 🍀

Just as Abraham is our father in Acts 7:2

**Acts 7:2 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<2> Who said: Ye men, brethren, and fathers, hear. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charan. ```

My priest is my father in the same metaphorical sense

Could just be random. Could be that they were the most pathetic and vile people on earth or something.

Just as job is the father the poor in Job 29:16 my priest is a father to me and my community

**Job 29:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<16> I was the father of the poor: and the cause which I knew not, I searched out most diligently. ```

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Make sure you find the quote where it says that God owes us an explanation for all of his decisions.

there’s a big theme in Christianity and Judaism of like the lowest of the low and the top

😉

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] I feel bad that you have to resort to insults.

2 Kings 2:12

**2 Kings 2:12 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<12> And Eliseus saw him, and cried: My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the driver thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own garments, and rent them in two pieces. ```

Btw this wasn’t his father

2 Kings 6:21

**2 Kings 6:21 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<21> And the king of Israel said to Eliseus, when he saw them: My father, shall I kill them? ```

I just made a big cummy on my tummy

Why did the king of Israel call eliseus his father

like how uh Jesus was the king of kings but he was like dressed in rags and would wash feet and stuff. Picking the Jews because they’re the worst doesn’t seem incoherent thematically with that

Romans 9:10

But idk that sort of an aborted thought

**Romans 9:10 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<10> And not only she. But when Rebecca also had conceived at once, of Isaac our father. ```

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] and what I'm saying is that he doesn't owe us an explanation for why he loves them.

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] would that be different as like almost any other ethnic minority though

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] You know, because he created everything.

1 Timothy 2:7

**1 Timothy 2:7 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<7> Whereunto I am appointed a preacher and an apostle, (I say the truth, I lie not, ) a doctor of the Gentiles in faith and truth. ```

to what extent is historical Jew hatred special to Jews and not just general built in tribal behavior/xenophobia

@BANKS Vril is an actual RL brainlet don't mind him

1 Corinthians 12:28

**1 Corinthians 12:28 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<28> And God indeed hath set some in the church; first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly doctors; after that miracles; then the graces of healing, helps, governments, kinds of tongues, interpretations of speeches. ```

@BANKS god doesn’t need to explain inconsistencies but it’s not unreasonable to say that an inconsistency is a reasonable addition to doubt of his existence

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] potentially, yes. If you were a brownish foreigner in like russia or something

I would make that assumption

I don’t think you have a particularly strong historical case using this evidence tho lol

@Gastjohn I do think that is reasonable.

It’s quite weak. People are inherently xenophobic. Jews are different

okay but that might make sense with any insular ethnic minority, even if they were a net positive. Which I’m not saying Jews are

Voltaire.

maybe I’m cucked but that’s not all that convincing to me because what you presented there doesn’t have all that much reason to think it’s the special quality of Jewishness which is the factor of getting them kicked out

Can someone explain Ephesians 4:26?

It’s a strong case for them being nomadic insular ethnic minorities establishing themselves in a variety of places

<:Thonk:362811285869559808>

<@481246330484949004> evening sir

Ephesians 4:26

**Ephesians 4:26 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<26> Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: ```

"Be ye angry"?

@Insomniac Voltaire?

@GastjohnWhat do you think friend

Ephesians 4:26

**Ephesians 4:26 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<26> Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: ```

Yes. Voltaire.

Guys are you ready for some sick tunes?

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] that’s not entirely wrong. If you accept that Jews are inherently evil it’s hard to not accept that Christianity is flawed inherently.

Im sure Vril knows the mans history with Jewish bankers and financers.

TRS Anthem

<:FeelsDabMan:356316778470834176>

@Order be angry, but be measured in how you dispense it?

and his subsequent recant of his previous statements made towards them.

I think be angry according to the situation

Be angry of sinners

Ephesians 4:25-27

**Ephesians 4:25-27 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<25> Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. <26> Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: <27> Neither give place to the devil. ```

Yes

Ephesians 4:27

**Ephesians 4:27 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<27> Neither give place to the devil. ```

Be angry about the devil

Romans 14:1 is for u @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

**Romans 14:1 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<1> Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. ```

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] You are a weakling manlet

You do not accept Christ

You ignorant snow elf

I am talking about your skin color

Not Mer kind

You dip

People should speak the truth with one another. 26 seems to have something to do with the proper emotion to feel versus the proper response to that emotion and its relation to sin. Give place to the devil could have something to do with not creating room for the devil through your actions? That was my first thought