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2018-10-04 11:25:31 UTC

how does religion undermine natural selection

2018-10-04 11:26:16 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2018-10-04 11:26:18 UTC

religious people rejected the theory of evolution and its natural selection

2018-10-04 11:26:40 UTC

this was a little joke reference, if you could call it that

2018-10-04 11:27:03 UTC

you, of course, can be for natural selection and also be religious

2018-10-04 11:27:21 UTC

o

2018-10-04 11:27:23 UTC

i see

2018-10-04 11:28:21 UTC

Someday i question to my self, how the world Looks without our senses

2018-10-04 11:28:31 UTC

i mean, how the space really looks

2018-10-04 11:28:37 UTC

without using our brain

2018-10-04 11:28:39 UTC

it doesn't look like anything

2018-10-04 11:28:45 UTC

so what it is

2018-10-04 11:29:13 UTC

it's an infinite amount of space expanding into itself

2018-10-04 11:29:46 UTC

I know, but what if you get out of the human senses. I mean, we know that colors, smells, and even patterns don't exis

2018-10-04 11:29:53 UTC

well

2018-10-04 11:29:58 UTC

it doesn't look like nothing

2018-10-04 11:30:02 UTC

it's just light

2018-10-04 11:30:03 UTC

You have to define what 'exists' means

2018-10-04 11:30:13 UTC

our eyes just see it in a specific way

2018-10-04 11:30:24 UTC

The wavelengths we interpret as colors exist independently of your mind

2018-10-04 11:30:26 UTC

exactly

2018-10-04 11:30:36 UTC

our brain creates the reality

2018-10-04 11:30:37 UTC

Does that mean they exist or no?

2018-10-04 11:30:47 UTC

it exists

2018-10-04 11:30:55 UTC

is like the 0 and 1

2018-10-04 11:30:55 UTC

we just see it in a specific way

2018-10-04 11:31:09 UTC

there is just 0 and 1 or pixels and your brain creates the video... or the image

2018-10-04 11:31:19 UTC

reality could be just 1 thing

2018-10-04 11:31:27 UTC

and our brains create everything

2018-10-04 11:31:27 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496515828372602890/497370162253529089/image0.jpg

2018-10-04 11:31:28 UTC

So does a tree make a sound if no one hears it fall?

2018-10-04 11:31:39 UTC

sounds don't exist either

2018-10-04 11:31:43 UTC

it does

2018-10-04 11:31:44 UTC

i mean outside our brains

2018-10-04 11:31:50 UTC

outside our brains don't exist

2018-10-04 11:32:01 UTC

we call it sound and we hear a specific wavelenght of it

2018-10-04 11:32:12 UTC

but it is just 1 thing

2018-10-04 11:32:15 UTC

in the space

2018-10-04 11:32:31 UTC

the thing we call sound is just waves going from one partice to the other

2018-10-04 11:32:37 UTC

For a 'sound' to exist is it contingent on a brain to interpret a wave?

2018-10-04 11:32:54 UTC

The waves exist

2018-10-04 11:32:59 UTC
2018-10-04 11:33:12 UTC

i was thinking, that's why when we look at the space we don't see nothing, cause our brain don't need to create reality if it's not for survive

2018-10-04 11:33:27 UTC

there may be an infinite spectrum of the wave lenghts

2018-10-04 11:33:30 UTC

I mean, maybe the space is NOT empty but we just see darkness cause our brain don't creates reality for that spectrum

2018-10-04 11:33:34 UTC

for example the dark energy

2018-10-04 11:33:36 UTC

we just didn't discover it yet/can't hear above 20 kHz

2018-10-04 11:34:03 UTC

maybe space is more alived that we taught

2018-10-04 11:34:08 UTC

we also haven't found a single full vacuum

2018-10-04 11:34:12 UTC

everything we know is still based on our brains

2018-10-04 11:34:13 UTC

space as we know it is from something

2018-10-04 11:34:21 UTC

or brains are just a way to see the space

2018-10-04 11:34:28 UTC

yes

2018-10-04 11:34:42 UTC

but it exists without our interpretation based on our biological senses

2018-10-04 11:34:50 UTC

And one more

2018-10-04 11:34:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496515828372602890/497371029472018432/image0.jpg

2018-10-04 11:35:36 UTC

You would have to reject empiricism if the argument is our environment is subjective

2018-10-04 11:35:43 UTC

so maybe space could be just light

2018-10-04 11:35:46 UTC

I mean even matter

2018-10-04 11:35:48 UTC

could be just light

2018-10-04 11:36:02 UTC

not what we call light

2018-10-04 11:36:04 UTC

just energy and light everywhere

2018-10-04 11:37:01 UTC

i'm curious on how reality would look without a biogologic machine

2018-10-04 11:37:04 UTC

i mean OUTSIDE

2018-10-04 11:37:05 UTC

life

2018-10-04 11:37:12 UTC

Maybe you've already lived your whole life but your brain is replaying your life at a slow linear pace

2018-10-04 11:37:48 UTC

@Supreme Leader Kim ๐Ÿงง I mean, all the things that we see, smell, hear and everything are just interpretations

2018-10-04 11:37:54 UTC

of something else

2018-10-04 11:37:59 UTC

but what is THAT something else

2018-10-04 11:38:04 UTC

how is it look

2018-10-04 11:38:06 UTC

<:pepewat:363726771365085185>

2018-10-04 11:38:15 UTC

the ultimate reality

2018-10-04 11:38:18 UTC

without using our senses

2018-10-04 11:38:20 UTC

God

2018-10-04 11:38:25 UTC

wow

2018-10-04 11:38:38 UTC

that something else is that thing

2018-10-04 11:38:42 UTC

we just created a name for it

2018-10-04 11:38:44 UTC

We've established our senses are subjective

2018-10-04 11:38:49 UTC

and we interpret it in our ways

2018-10-04 11:38:51 UTC

The only objective truth is God

2018-10-04 11:39:03 UTC

light actually exists, from what we can say

2018-10-04 11:39:11 UTC

it just isn't specifically like we see it

2018-10-04 11:39:12 UTC

You can't know though

2018-10-04 11:39:13 UTC

for example

2018-10-04 11:39:21 UTC

Realism is still anchored to belief / preference

2018-10-04 11:39:22 UTC

that's why i said from what we can say

2018-10-04 11:39:25 UTC

from what we know, if you will

2018-10-04 11:39:28 UTC

Right

2018-10-04 11:39:37 UTC

waves are just space vibrating?

2018-10-04 11:39:42 UTC

I'm saying you can never know

2018-10-04 11:39:48 UTC

Even with perfect knowledge of the natural world

2018-10-04 11:39:56 UTC

oi

2018-10-04 11:39:57 UTC

we get it

its automatic

2018-10-04 11:40:23 UTC

automatic is code for gay

2018-10-04 11:40:27 UTC

why

^^

see

2018-10-04 11:40:40 UTC

just put it in rules

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