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2019-02-04 12:53:42 UTC

Then ECC brings a benefit

2019-02-04 12:53:54 UTC

But only because of the raidz2

2019-02-04 12:54:12 UTC

Everything else that you said has 0 benefits from ECC

2019-02-04 12:54:20 UTC

yeah I have to. so many lifehacker tier guides said "just pick up old pc parts and smash them together" and FreeNAS forums were very clear about how important ECC is

2019-02-04 12:54:46 UTC

Data storage is directly affected by raid z2, Plex is not

2019-02-04 12:55:07 UTC

im still not sure about what to run on my NAS

2019-02-04 12:55:10 UTC

if your memory is fucky with z raid it's bye bye

2019-02-04 12:55:22 UTC

ZFS, unRAID (XFS), mergerfs + snapraid

2019-02-04 12:55:42 UTC

In my limited experience FreeNAS and zfs z2 has been good to me

2019-02-04 12:55:56 UTC

How many disks, how many reliable external backups? @Goz3rr

2019-02-04 12:56:03 UTC

4 disks, but i want to expand

2019-02-04 12:56:06 UTC

ZFS can't expand with single disks

2019-02-04 12:56:09 UTC

one hard drive already broke, it sent a mail, resilvering was a breeze

2019-02-04 12:56:26 UTC

How many disks do you want to have?

2019-02-04 12:56:30 UTC

i have 8 bays

2019-02-04 12:56:41 UTC

How large are the single disks going to be?

2019-02-04 12:56:43 UTC

8TB

2019-02-04 12:56:54 UTC

Mh that's too large for raid6

2019-02-04 12:57:03 UTC

i don't want to run hardware raid

2019-02-04 12:57:08 UTC

Does your NAS have reliable external backups?

2019-02-04 12:57:24 UTC

Or are you using raid as a backup? (don't)

2019-02-04 12:57:35 UTC

there's nothing on there

2019-02-04 12:57:39 UTC

there's 4 unpartitioned disks in it

2019-02-04 12:57:45 UTC

and a 500GB 970 evo plus

2019-02-04 12:58:02 UTC

How much reliability do you need?

2019-02-04 12:58:09 UTC

And do you rather read or rather write?

2019-02-04 12:58:20 UTC

(you can see selecting a raid level is science)

2019-02-04 12:58:24 UTC

i was just going to put plex and a torrent client on it

2019-02-04 12:58:30 UTC

i don't buy into the raid5 is broken meme either

2019-02-04 12:58:46 UTC

So if it crashes for a day or two and is barely accessible during restore, it's not a big deal?

2019-02-04 12:58:46 UTC

single parity disk is fine for me right now

2019-02-04 12:58:54 UTC

and 3 data disks for 24TB effective

2019-02-04 12:59:03 UTC

Then go Raid6 anyway

2019-02-04 12:59:08 UTC

raid6 is two parity disks

2019-02-04 12:59:16 UTC

Yes believe me

2019-02-04 12:59:29 UTC

I've had the second disk failing during a restore way too often in my life

2019-02-04 12:59:57 UTC

if i go raid6 with 4 disks i might as well go raid10

2019-02-04 13:00:05 UTC

same effective space and a way better solution

2019-02-04 13:00:12 UTC

`Or are you using raid as a backup? (don't)`
w-what senpai

2019-02-04 13:00:17 UTC

I thought you want to expand to 8 disks though

2019-02-04 13:00:24 UTC

i do

2019-02-04 13:00:26 UTC

@futuremoe yes raid is NOT a backup

2019-02-04 13:00:39 UTC

Once you have 8 disks, Raid6 is nicer than 10

2019-02-04 13:00:47 UTC

Except for writing speed

2019-02-04 13:01:08 UTC

when you say you had second disks fail during rebuild

2019-02-04 13:01:11 UTC

did you ever scrub your arrays

2019-02-04 13:02:31 UTC

hmmm

2019-02-04 13:02:33 UTC

Nvm I misread

2019-02-04 13:02:50 UTC

Did you ever = yes
How often = not enough

2019-02-04 13:03:00 UTC

Still I wouldn't risk it

2019-02-04 13:03:01 UTC

raidz3

2019-02-04 13:03:04 UTC

or gtfo

2019-02-04 13:03:11 UTC

yeah let me just throw 24 TB away

2019-02-04 13:03:15 UTC

I'm still for Raid6 here

2019-02-04 13:03:19 UTC

so I need another server to backup my server?
are synology servers as trash as I think they are?

2019-02-04 13:03:32 UTC

synology is overpriced hardware with a shitty UI

2019-02-04 13:03:37 UTC

Yep

2019-02-04 13:03:38 UTC

but it works if you dont want to fuck around

2019-02-04 13:03:38 UTC

yes and yes

2019-02-04 13:03:40 UTC

And a shitty UI

2019-02-04 13:03:50 UTC

i meant ui not io lol

2019-02-04 13:04:22 UTC

You could just encrypt your entire NAS and put it on Azure archive storage. They're a few $/tb as long as you don't access it @futuremoe

2019-02-04 13:04:40 UTC

That's basically storage tape as a service

2019-02-04 13:05:02 UTC

azure is โ‚ฌ0,0017 per GB, aws is โ‚ฌ0,004 per GB

2019-02-04 13:05:04 UTC

cold storage

2019-02-04 13:05:06 UTC

Cheap af but takes a day to access. Tho I would encrypt everything before uploading it because it's Microsoft

2019-02-04 13:05:46 UTC

Yeah that's 1.75โ‚ฌ/TB

2019-02-04 13:05:54 UTC

but you pay out the ass for data retrieval

2019-02-04 13:06:06 UTC

Yes but that's just for emergency

2019-02-04 13:06:12 UTC

I think it's ok for backups

2019-02-04 13:06:22 UTC

Let's say you need it once every 3-4 years

2019-02-04 13:06:45 UTC

archive storage is fine. what's the difference between hot/cold?

2019-02-04 13:07:10 UTC

Hot = expensive to store, cheap to access
Cold = cheap to store, expensive to acceas

2019-02-04 13:07:24 UTC

Hot is for your little files that you need every day, cold is for backups

2019-02-04 13:07:42 UTC

and archive is cool on steroids?

2019-02-04 13:07:51 UTC

Yes

2019-02-04 13:08:05 UTC

Iirc the cheapest plan of azure for archiving has one day of latency to access a file

2019-02-04 13:08:10 UTC

it would be 10 โ‚ฌ a month for 5TB archive

2019-02-04 13:08:12 UTC

Like, you have to request a day in advance

2019-02-04 13:08:26 UTC

that's fine it's mostly my blu ray rips

2019-02-04 13:08:27 UTC

I doubt it's going to cost that much but I can't check rn

2019-02-04 13:08:33 UTC

I'm not paying that much

2019-02-04 13:08:47 UTC

first 50tb azure archive is โ‚ฌ0.0019 per GB a month

2019-02-04 13:09:00 UTC

Switch location away from Germany

2019-02-04 13:09:10 UTC

Select some US location

2019-02-04 13:09:15 UTC

They might be cheaper

2019-02-04 13:09:16 UTC

Northern Europe is cheap too

2019-02-04 13:09:21 UTC

That's Ireland

2019-02-04 13:09:27 UTC

Right

2019-02-04 13:09:32 UTC

For some reason that's called North lol

2019-02-04 13:09:42 UTC

I should check my Azure bill

2019-02-04 13:10:04 UTC

I pay about 200 โ‚ฌ / month for all the shit I have but I have no clue what I'm paying for the single services

2019-02-04 13:10:17 UTC

I know that I have about 30 TB in cold storage

2019-02-04 13:10:36 UTC

But I also have some VMs and some databases

2019-02-04 13:15:48 UTC

anyways

2019-02-04 13:15:52 UTC

i want to start with 1 parity disk now

2019-02-04 13:15:56 UTC

and upgrade to 2 at some point

2019-02-04 13:16:00 UTC

when i upgrade beyond 4 disks

2019-02-04 13:16:27 UTC

all my drives are from different batches/sellers so i'm not too worried about them all failing at the same time

2019-02-04 13:19:46 UTC

i intend to use the HDDs as bulk storage for media library etc

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