I'll leave disproving that to someone else, I'd rather not want to kill myself

and now I want to kill myself

But I mean we are persecuting fandoms for small niches here right?

Otherwise you would never bring up lolicon

there is also the un-arguably large ERP scene with furries

And its always YOU who brings it up

which is pretty ultra degenerate

Yes, and there’s an unarguably large ERP scene among Weebs, too.

No one defending loli has ever started this argument

not near as much though

Its only the furry starting shit

idk about others but I'mnot even defending lolicons, lolicons need the rope

Do I need to show you the breeding/milking anime?

which are a minority

Do I need to bring up babyfur?

also (((anime)))

Or reverse birthing

hentai, I'm confident you mean

Or vore?

It’s anime.

Or cub

Show us the series then

to be fair, reverse birthing and vore is present in some of the most degenerate hentai

Hentai is a type of anime.

hentai is pornography

Not really

Yeah and it’s a big part of anime culture.

For instance shadman is a free lance artist

Not an anime artist

Or even hentai artist to my knowledge

that is true, little boots, but not all hentai is mega-degeneracy

Also, I’m glad I blocked Ehzek because he likes to spam stuff like crazy.

It would be like lumping in disney with disney porn

that's the niche stuff, and almost always hentai manga rather than actual anime

I know.

because Japanese companies aren't insane enough to animate that trash lol

I’m just making the point that calling furries “degenerate” while being an anime weeb is kind of like a pot calling a kettle “black.”

Except its not

I could name 100 anime that arent degenerate

there is degeneracy amongst anime fans, I don't disagree there, but they are a niche minority, even if they can sometimes be loud

but at its core, anime is just

animation from Japan

It’s not even a niche minority and, if it is, they’re the most vocal among them.

furries are inherently degenerate, they are not a corruption of a benign base

they're the most vocal because

that is true for EVERYTHING

Its a niche minority that argues with furry a lot so...

every group, the crazies screech the loudest

So, why apply a different level of thinking for furries?

Because its degenerate to the core

because, the two bases are on different levels

I disagree.

anime is Japanese animation, furries is weird anthropomorphic nonsense of animals and it is very unsettling and disturbing looking most of the time

Anime was just as niche as furries were on the outset of its introduction in the West.

I'm not talking about how mainstream something is

I'm talking about how degenerate it is

Furry was produced in the west I think

He difference was one was essentially dragged through the ringer while the other got a free pass overall, though both have equally disturbing stuff going on behind the scenes.

Unless you start coopting old mythology again

I don't see how the non-west would put out furries so

Pokemon is wholesome

Furry isnt

both have disturbing things in the back, yes, but furries are disturbing in the front too

anime is not

Mainstreamness dictates how many degenerates there are.

Mainstream furry is degenerate

Its almost only degenerate

Furries are quite a niche group and, in turn, the seedier types generally are more noticeable.

mainstream anime is stuff like dragon ball z and other stuff, which is not degenerate at all

Heck I would argue pedophiles coopted lolicon

Because its a non illegal way to get their fix

well, not illegal in some places

Rather than anime producing them

Well less illegal

Its likely the same with furry and beastiality

both pedophiles and people into bestiality need the rope

However, back in the 1970’s, when both fandoms were beginning, they were pretty small. The difference is furries were pretty much hounded from the start due to the focus on anthropomorphic animals and how the media heavily conflated that with beastiality, even though most are not into that to begin with, which has kept it pretty niche for decades.

The difference is all anime is wholes damn near

you can't really compare furry and anime's beginnings, even if you narrow it down to the west

Anime brought speed racer and astro boy

furry was and is small

Later Gundam Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball

What have furry brought?

anime, even before being really introduced to the west, was growing large in Japan

Anime got off mainly because it could easily be passed off as generic, but got its controversies later on as it became more popular.

Absolutely nothing

We’re not talking about Japan.

We’re talking about it within the West.

We cant talk about anime and not japan...

if you're talking about anime you are talking about Japan too

anime is not made for the West

Not necessarily, no.

the west just adopts it

If we’re talking about a particular thing in a region, we are talking about that particular thing in that region.

no anime company makes anime for anything but Japan itself, if it is popular in the west that is just a bonus to them

You didn't even specify a region

Anime was extremely small and niche in the West for the longest time. It only became widely popular in the late 1980’s with stuff like Sailor Moon and, eventually, Dragon Ball Z.

It was niche in japan too