and the answer is because when people actually care about their country (nationalism) they tend to do better

@Firefly#9983 no different areas require different governments

USA has 6 houses to every 1 homeless person, yet there's still homelessness in it

If fascists truly loved their people, they'd become a socialist in an instant lol

hmm don't bail out the housing companies

ever

dont bail out any company

u anti semite

why do u hate jews

just give them ur money

Bailing out a company is the only way for people to keep jobs in a capitalist society @Deleted User . There's a reason why government subsidize businesses

N a z i s

@Deleted User Libya was better under socialist jamahiriya?

@Deleted User that's where I disagree it increases risk

If a big business fails, for example walmart, 50,000 people would just lose jobs

?

not bailing out the bankers is what Hitler would've done

@Firefly#9983 capitalism isn't something one achieves over night you need to create the basic structures first via protectionalism so yes

Killing the bankers is what Lenin would've done

my theory is capitalism is something to be obtained

from protectionalism

to capitalism

so Lenin was a bigger antisemite than Hitler?

socialism is a form o protectionalism

@Deleted User But USA destroyed it exactly because of protectionist policies.

if you burn 100 capitalists to the stake and 90 of them were jews, so be it @Deleted User

fine with me

@Firefly#9983 protectionalism and interventionalism are two different things

but try to not burn the 10 goyim

be careful

goyim lives matter

the 10 goyims die, they did as much bad as the jews

i don't buy that

equality of race niggas

according to jew logic

*American jew logic

ok

@Firefly#9983 wouldn't you agree America should mind its own buisness

and so should other countries

in a perfect world, everyone should agree with that. all wars are unjustified, unless they are defense

the French are bad about this in africa

france: "ruining the world one intervention at a time"

the intervention was their idea they also intervened in burnika faso against a socialist government something youd support @Firefly#9983

so logically you should share my disdain for france

or at least their foreign policy

for when we drag our people into war needlessly we bring about social instability on an international level

our kids our brothers and sister should be protected not killed for no reason

@Deleted User ok your given complete control of the usa what do you do

firstly, purge the government officials. they are nothing but panderers to the sheep

next, i establish socialism by taking the means of production and giving them up to the workers

then i reform the government so that trade unions and syndicates controlled the economy

then i ask for canada to annex us

the end

why the last one

cause idk i don't want to lead

i guess i just give up power and leave it up for the workers to control it

heres what id do and pull all our troops out of any foreign conflict

arrest bankers in mass

investigate to see if any foreign intrests are influencing our politics

and arrest anyone involved their

lol i guess you're just arresting diplomats now

keep going

id probably consult the people and see what they want to do about immigration

here ideas be open

encourage political discourse

give everyone a gun

investigate the federal reserve

if things get bad enough

just fuckin invade mexico

and legalize all drugs

(Cant have drug dealers if drugs are legal)

and get shot

long before I can get my massive agenda done

but if I can I would get as much done as possible

so your gonna be isolationist but invade mexico?

only as a last result

@Deleted User what do you think

i havent been here for the whole discussion but i think both of ur ideas appear inferior at the latest messages

i know id get shot

and legalizing all drugs gives us room for the prisions

legalizing drugs is degeneracy

No Degeneracy Allowed

Who else thinks Hitler was some kind of Prophet?

@Deleted User you ded

oh i'm here

i was offline for like a couple of minutes

That's not a big army, unfortunately. You picture dividing that on all the fronts Hitler demanded, there's not much left. I know it isn't the whole army, but it gives you some idea that fighting on multiple fronts is a massive disadvantage.

shouldn't have invaded poland for muh liebenstraum then lol

Blitzkrieg should have been a strategy not a tactic.

I just achieved what no man in this discord server has done before.

I got a girl's phone number.

@fannybandit wrong

Am I though?

Who needs phone numbers. It's 2018 grandpa.

nice job @fannybandit#5065

I remember when my mom gave me her cell phone number too

in case of emergencies

Fire tbh

Or earth, I think it's the most useful

While fire is Best in combat

why is it that there are more american "national socialists" than there are european nazis? it couldn't possibly be because we europeans experienced nazi atrocities first hand and, you know, actually fucking know what the ideology is

fascists too

i doubt there's more than 10000 germans today that have a good opinion on hitler lol

@everyone, where is the Rebel Alliance meeting to overthrow the 8chan Tankies

@Deleted User Are you dead yet?

@Syndicalist Unsubstantiated.

@Syndicalist ummmm, my name signifies my place of Nassciance, and here in Romania, Boiiiiiii are there a lot of fascists, Fascism is slowly creeping up on all of Holy Evropa

Nice to see another AnSynd btw

@R O M S O C アナーキー Does the irongurd have a strong presence in romania?

what part of that is unsubstantiated? the whole 10000 germans thing? i said "i doubt" not "i know for a fact"

i know for a fact there's more national socialists in the usa since there are no similar events such as the charlotteville protests

here in europe*

@Syndicalist Not just that, but because the claim that "we experienced their atrocities firsthand and that's why I think there are more nazi's in the USA".

uhm... tell me, what continent was the german reich located on

it wasn't in mexico that's for sure

How does that relate to anything?

you pointed out my statement that we got to experience nazi atrocities first hand as if it were an unsubstantiated claim

when factually it's true

@Syndicalist That's because it was.

Happy Valentines, comrades!

so are you saying that it's unproven we experienced nazi atrocities first hand?

@Deleted User their follower Party, Who are very keen on carrying massive Cruxifixes to their COUNTER-LGBTQ Protests have like 10% popular support

@Syndicalist I ain't seeing any evidence here.

jesus fucking christ

@R O M S O C アナーキー Pretty equivalent to the situation here.

it's not like we have family members who were in labour camps

@Syndicalist I ain't seeing any proof of that here......

frankly my grandparents can tell me very well what happened in that time

yes, i can't drag my grandparents here

and if you're a holocaust denier (not saying you are) it'll be even harder

because i can't find a single thing on the internet that you won't point your finger at and say "marxist propaganda"

Then, I don't trust your claim that you are legitimate in your claim.

then you've just proven my suspicion that americans are ignorant to nazism because they never experienced it themselves

Nazism is early 20th century. Only Americans are dumb enough to think that it applies to them. Such is the fate of those melded into putty by years of propaganda, they will internalise anything.

@Deleted User tbpfh, The idea that there are outdated ideologies that would never work now is pretty fucking weak

Not sure what you mean, isn't all ideology outdated?

You said that smth from the Early 20th century does not apply now

@Syndicalist Because you are incapable of showing me evidence and I choose not to believe an ubsubstantiated claim, that makes me ignorant?

And that triggers my inner CNT FAI

ok here

@R O M S O C アナーキー *Gets destroyed by the falange*

I bet it does. But we are not those people.

@Deleted User https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007271

Mortes a las Falanges

@Syndicalist I wasn't talking about the holocaust.

Smh no All CAPS

@Syndicalist How presumptious.

okay, here are nazi atrocities in my own country

http://gottschee.de/forum/messages/158.html

This level of cultural relativism is really obnoxious.

in poland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation

It was a violent time.

czechoslovakia

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/massacre-in-czechoslovakia-newly-discovered-film-shows-post-war-executions-a-698060.html

@Syndicalist Wow, using unsourced citations, great.

see this is just it

no matter what i show you

That says nothing. Everyone died and suffered atrocities.

you will completely throw it aside

and act like a smartass

without looking into it

it's really stupid

Ur Polish? And Anarchist? Am I in heaven or is a Pole not an Ultrationalist

it's even more offensive considering we have fucking documents, eyewitnesses, MASS GRAVEYARDS from that era

it's so easy to say

I'm not throwing it aside. I said it is typical of the era.

"oh they're just lying"

fuck off.

@Syndicalist You expect me to trust an unsourced document that any random jackass could have made?

Everyone had mass graves.

yeah, everyone also had eyewitnesses and people who were in those labour camps

it's amazing how they all tell the same stories

@Syndicalist Let me remind you, eye witness claims are the weakest form of evidence.

well it doesn't help that the reich was synonymous with burning books

obviously most documents were confiscated

in the end, no, i can't prove to you that the nazis were the scum of the earth

any normal human being should understand that

if you choose to believe otherwise

i'm not going to waste my time convincing you something that has been proven too many times

@Syndicalist Confiscated? By whom?

do you think the reich would let concentration camp documents behind for the allies?

@Syndicalist In 1945?

they razed camps before abandoning the area

@Syndicalist Then why was auschwitz almost fully intact?

because the soviets were advancing a lot faster than the allies + auchwitz was a lot bigger than dachau or any other western concentration camps

And may I ask why the soviets put a smoke stack on the camp AFTER the war was over.

i don't care what the soviets did i'm not a fan of the soviet union but i hate the german reich much more

@Syndicalist Then you are a hypocrite, by picking and choosing the evidence you want to believe.

i never, ever fucking said i don't recognize soviet warcrimes

but the scale of them compared to german war crimes is so laughable

it's pathetic how people can be apologetic towards nazis

@Syndicalist I apoligise for nothing, again such a presumptious act.

ever heard of a certain standard in the wehrmacht where one soldier death meant 100 civilian deaths?

@Syndicalist And, do you consider fabrication of evidence against the nazi's a war crime in that case?

yes, did you consider the fabrication of evidence by the western world against soviet atrocities too?

no because you don't like them

@Syndicalist Yes, I do.

so do you believe in the soviet rape during german occupation?

do you believe in human experiments in the soviet union?

and if you do, tell my why do you believe in it

@Syndicalist I do, I have not seen anything to disprove or challeneg that such things happened.

When you talk with tankies, the only thing they will mention that never happened is the holodomor, but nothing else.

i believe in holodomor

but i believe in holodomor for the same reasons as i believe in the holocaust

because of people who were there

and actually told the world about their suffering

there is as much evidence for the holocaust as there is for holodmor or any other soviet atrocity

there were american atrocities in the war too

how they sent german POW's on starvation marches

and to me the most reliable source are old people who saw it with their own eyes

it sounds crazy when one person says something like that, sure

but it's not when millions of people describe events so vividly and similarly

@Syndicalist Not similarly, there seems to be conflicts in just about every story.

I can't believe you ignored me. This is what I just told you 20 lines ago.

Happy valentine's day~

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International tolerance day

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https://discord.gg/yFzu23w

Oops

Dropped that

@Mosin Nagant doesnt work that way

nigga love is anti-communistic

You egoistic peice of shit blyat

Didn't ask you dude just wishing people a good day.

@Mosin Nagant Hah!

@Mosin Nagant Awesome, comrade!

@Firefly Does a marxist leninist like you support marriage and love?

@Deleted User it is a huge question I'm not willing to discuss atm. I'm married and in a huge love. But I do not support it on philosophical level.

@Firefly So in otherwords you don't.

Well. There are people who are not married and not in love who do.

But we are not talking about them.

To be fair I like the idea of multiple wives.

and no children

Stop that shit, you ain't muslim or mormon.

he could be a polyamorist

erhm

hi?

i was randomly invited and im not entirely sure why

Hello