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1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them
6. Funded by US bankers
This stands proven
you stay debunked
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nope, i am saying the overton window is shifting right whether you like it or not and disseminating why is more constructive than just spouting marxist rhetoric
All you can do at this point is personally attack me
shut the fuck up you 5 year old minded dense faggot retard
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1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them
6. Funded by US bankers
just quoting you, snowflake
You stay debunked, see
you can only personally attack me
your 6 points you cant prove reposted. awesome
you are really a snowflake
Capitalist society and mode of production is proved just by the philosophy of fascism and nazism alone
@Blebleh Do you think I've proven them, to get a second opinion about this?
no, it isnt...natsco was in opposition to international crdit loans...thats kinda why there was an international boycott
yes, but he's searching for the international bankers
like if industrialists weren't capitalists
blehbleh do you thin i proved them??? omg lmfao
Yes, it's called getting some outside perspective
If only you, the person who's being debunked, denies those points as proven, then you're just in denial
slack what is capitalism?
interestingly enough igfarben wasnt officially liquidated until 1976... maybe you can further your argument by using that
oh boy, here we go
so let's think for a moment
that they eliminated all usury
the owners of the business are still extracting surplus value from the workers
part of what they produce
they aren't socialist
And they're privatizing, and making deals with foreign, capitalist and powerful countries
market distortion exists and the leaders have to obey the laws of the market
"I can't explain this with my own words because I don't fully understand it so I'll just link this article that sounds smart and fancy"
Yeah, no
Tell us, slack
What is capitalism
nah...i'll just link to an article that gives you a solid historical foundation in the development of capitalism
That's not what we're asking
who is we?
We're asking you to define capitalism
Blebleh and I
so get a room...i provided you with a solid answer...sorry it requires reading
Yeah, so you can't even define what capitalism is
What a waste of time
i'm imagining right now you probably have a rather small dengus judging from the extent of your butthurt
Now this isn't even funny, it's just pathetic
like you arent omg
Look slack, this might work with your parents and people who don't know shit about economy or politics, but you can't join a political server in discord and try to pull the same shit on us
i stated unequivocally that capitalism is n extension of jewish usury.
Because then you get debunked in 5 minutes and have to constantly post this pathetic passive-aggresive messages to protect your ideology and your ego
"Capitalism is Usury. Its defining belief is โreturn on investmentโ. This is an extension of the โtime valueโ of money, which is the central tenet of modern economics. Capitalism is unthinkable without banking and banking is institutionalized Usury. "
usually people who talk about parents still live with theirs, i find...whereas i live with my children
this isn't capitalism
Then god help your children, because you have the mindset of a 5 year old
capitalism is thinkable without banking?
capitalism means that workers are submitted to private owners, they have to sell their labour force
and they receive a wage
they're not in the same level of power
to negotiate a "free contract"
you have the mindset of a particular ankle biting archytype...your jimmies are rusteld...you dont understand what happened in the 1930s vis a vi germany...not my issue
And the political knowledge of someone that uses wordpress as a reliable source
Btw, blebleh is telling you what capitalism is, you should pay attention
if you remove usury you still have what I said
there are still classes
thats an analysis stemming from leftist discourse...it isnt one based in historical emergence and fundamental precepts necessary for capital to function as an international entitiy...whereas the precept sof jewish usury do...as that is from where it stems
It might help you in future discussions and hell, maybe even you'll learn a thing or two about economy
it is based in historical emergence
classes existed within feudalism too...class isnt capitalist in origin
If you want to talk about historical emergence, then you should look at historical materialism, the relationships of power between oppressor and oppressed, etc.
got no interest in talking to you, triggered snowflake with russian name but not russian.. too triggeredm too easily
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Now you're pulling the "nah, I'm not going to talk to you" card
holy fuck, this is surreal
in socialism there aren't classes
there are only workers not the bourgeoisie
don't confuse caste with class
histoical materialism or dialectical materialism or whatever you what to frame it is...was and is fundamentally flawed as it denieshe breadth of expression needed to create functional cohesion withn a society...it relegates the breadth of human need
Now in english, please
caste and class? no, i wasnt....this is a semantic obsfuscation
Seriously, what the fuck do you mean
it denieshe breadth of expression needed to create functional cohesion withn a society...it relegates the breadth of human need
??
if you mean the dravidians in india, for example...wellm then that is different as it is genetic in expression....and to a certain extent at this poiht so is class...but without a solid analysis of race realism...it's all just flufff
ooh so you reject historical materialism because of pseudoscientifc racism
yes...dialectical materialism is fundamentally flawed as it prohibits the urgency of the phenomenological as a need among the proletariat
this is old
you think that people should have people above them because genetics?
i suggest reading "why race matters" by levin...a jewish guy... they you can have an opinion on if racial determination is "pseudoscientific" lmao...
race realism has been debunked millions of times, both theoretically and practically
no, i didnt sy that...racial realism is not racism...
nom,m it hasnt you shabbos
IQ tests that depend on education?
you cant debunk solid science with emoperical proof...you can only decry it as being unfair and then scream "debunked!" idiot
IQ tests aren't even made to measure intelligence
They're made to measure progress in education
factoid
initially yes...but not now...
It's not a factoid, it's why it was invented in the first palce
No, not initially
it still has the same function
for instance the average progress in education in syria is 82, whereas in germany it is 999
99
ah ok...you dont sound brainwashed
Yes, that's why people who live in more poor countries usually score lower
one big happy family free of capitalist oppression. jfc
Lower IQ has always been tied to poverty, not race
bullshit
It's only racists who link it to, for example, black people in america, because it's useful for their agenda
it's a tool for the reactionaries to call them dumb and justify their privilege
from race, so they keep the status quo
cambodians have one of the highest progress in education averages...such a wealthy country
no, thats just parroting jewish bs
balck guys run faster not cos of longer femurs and white guys swim better not cos less dense bones and more buoyant...that would be racist to say so and it obviously isnt true when you see the olympics and those not there physiological differences could never ever extend to innate intelligence quotients in terms of ethnicity...the sceience that has proven so...is just pseudoscience or something
No, that's not racist to say
Those are physical abilities
but when it comes to intelligence, it isn't the same
and you are apparently the arbniter of political correctness in the 21st century..if someone wants to know what is ok or not ok to say...just ask you
You can see that results from people from the same economic background that are of different races overlap
intelligence averages are already extensively investigated
political correctness no, you base it to justify a state that is in the lives of the people and justifies one above another
calling itself socialist when it's not
in terms of ethnicity...its actually very very obvious...when your mind isnt obscrued by not wanting to say want isnt currently withion the accepted status quo of acceptable thought
I love how the argument is that historical materialism is shit because black people are dumb
It sure is an impressive "argument" to defend
how is historical materialism false? the modes of production have been changed
and yet its apparently my conceptions that are tantamount to those of a 5 yeard old child...you really QED'd that one
i already stated why..the necessary prohibtion of the phenomological is flawed
Yes, don't tell me it's more complex than that because you're basically saying that historical materialism is false because some races are more intelligent than others
it can never work
it already happened
Or because races have different characteristics overall
no, i was simply stating that some "races" vary in intellectual capactiy, uyes...with obviously bright people coming from all of them...i didnt actually say material dialecticism is flawed due to that, at all
"yes...dialectical materialism is fundamentally flawed as it prohibits the urgency of the phenomenological as a need among the proletariat"
material dialecticism, holy fuck
"holy" fucvk...now you are starting to get a handle on irony...well done
"histoical materialism or dialectical materialism or whatever you what to frame it is...was and is fundamentally flawed as it denieshe breadth of expression needed to create functional cohesion withn a society...it relegates the breadth of human need"
yes, materialism doesnt meet the innate needs of the species
what are those innate needs?
in the USSR healthcare, the life expectancy skyrocketed, improvements for women, more GDP than other countries
it worked without racism
better than the other systems
a need that the belief in "god" or whatever is not precluded
also, impressive technological developments
fast development
well...the Poles that escaped the gulag system to iran might disagree with that
bourgeois?
or revisionist?
or the czechs maybe
The error was prosecuting gays
because they believed the antigay pseudoscience in that time
Oh, so now you take out the "gulag" card to disprove the economic miracle of the USSR when we haven't mentioned the holocaust once when discussing about nazi germany
lezlek kolakowski...main currents in marxism..party member for decades...read that guy
gulags are labour camps
they're inherited from the tsarist katorga
Nice double standards
so are lao gais
what double standards?
Talk about economy, not gulags
inherited> excused. nice logic
Then we can have a somewhat decent discussion
Come on
you have no right to tell me what i can and cant talk about you little fascist gremlin
Try to disprove the USSR's economical growth
excuse of what?
there were more prisoners in the US than in the USSR with Stalin
and what if they had?
A nazi criticizing gulags and forced labour, this is hilarious ๐
good guy stalin. oh no tankies
I'm not humanist
they kill more and a revolution isn't something pacific
i'm not a nazi..i simply stated that natsco was the only viable texistential threat to international capital thus far seen
No, of course you're not, my friend
You only defend nazi germany until death
and "race realism"
but totally not a nazi, no sir
you're a bit hysterical...but it's to be expected when someone tries to point out the merits to valuing labour over capital
yeah go shhot a taxi driver..that;ll make you cool
a taxi driver?
in a revolution a class overthrows another one
you probably should go listen to errico malatesta...let his spirit slap you about a bit
1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them
6. Funded by US bankers
Ahhh, what a nice sight
in a reviolution, profiteers exploit the utopian ideologues
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6
All of them, there
6 points unproven reiterated. congrats
in a socialist revolution profiteers are expropriated
from capitalism to socialism
if there's a feudal stage they could make alliances
specially with peasants
the french revolution is a different one
the jacobins were jewish lololol
>can't differentiate a bourgeois revolution and a proletarian one
it doesn't matter
Where did you study, slack?
yeah, it kinda does
Genuinely curious
at your moms
brb
Do you tell your kids that too?
Well, you know
Your "kids"
no i show them my pictures of hanging out with the zapatistas
The imaginary ones that you say you have on the internet
if you say so
You're mexican?
nope
What are you doing with the zapatistas in the first place
drinking and laughing at kidnap photos of the mayor of san cristobal de la casa
Aren't commies part of a jewish plot?
You youself said it a while back
useful idiots to some extent, obviously...but communism is virulent meme and extend outwards as any successful ideological meme
Sure, because the useful idiots are the ones who want to change the system from top to bottom and directly eliminate any kind of bourgeoisie, jewish or not, not the ones who fight for an authoritarian capitalist state that has links to powerful capitalist countries and still exploits their workers and accumulates capital
Those are the useful idiots, not the slaves of capitalist tactics
nothing wrong with wanting a fairer world. shrugs
Sure.
you mentioned zizek...so maybe get a grip on hegel more
Fairer while being exploited by a capitalist that's protected by the government and can make you starve if he wants to? that's just wanting to be a slave
no, you are misappropriating my words and inserting your own inferences...yet again
I'm not misappropiating anything, those are the consequences of the society you want
how can you be truly be salient to political rhetoric...if you cannot debated competently?
There's nothing more dangerous that a slave that defends his masters, or even worse, wants even more authoritarian masters
the society i want? i dont believe i ever even braioched what i want, tbf
You just did
i mentioned some aspect sof nsdap policy...you inferred from this that i am a national socialist
You have every single aspect of what makes someone national "socialist"
the logical progression you employ is monolithic ..learn to debate better
Yeah, sure
i have every single aspect etc etc.... well, actually no...thats just your doctinaire programming speaking
hahah too easy. this is why people flee the far left
The guy who completely avoids every argument I make, constantly makes personal attacks, discusses about the discussion as a way to protect himself and can't even speak english properly, is going tell me that I need to debate better.
Yeah, no
i'm an interlocutor, not more..i havent told you a damn thing about my own position
well, actuyally if you scroll up...most of your comments are all about me personally
Sure, because the jewish plots, defending nazi germany and race realism aren't nazi characteristics, no sir
even though you are simply guessing
i am jewish lol
or rather was
Yeah, now you're just trolling
ah ok...i see it is more of a case of highlighting how fragile your dogma is
I'm sure nazi germany would be a paradise for you, as you said
"a paradise for workers"
i never said it would be...i said it was a paradise for its workers and that is true comparative to pre 33 germany
They check the census, see you're jewish, to the camp you go
i also said it was a reactionary ethnostate, but you chose not to see that point
Because I tend to discuss what I disagree with
You also said it was socialist
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