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2017-05-19 15:34:00 UTC

1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them
6. Funded by US bankers

2017-05-19 15:34:09 UTC

This stands proven

2017-05-19 15:34:14 UTC

you stay debunked

2017-05-19 15:34:22 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‰

2017-05-19 15:34:39 UTC

nope, i am saying the overton window is shifting right whether you like it or not and disseminating why is more constructive than just spouting marxist rhetoric

2017-05-19 15:34:45 UTC

All you can do at this point is personally attack me

2017-05-19 15:35:06 UTC

shut the fuck up you 5 year old minded dense faggot retard

2017-05-19 15:35:12 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-05-19 15:35:25 UTC

1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them
6. Funded by US bankers

2017-05-19 15:35:27 UTC

just quoting you, snowflake

2017-05-19 15:35:35 UTC

You stay debunked, see

2017-05-19 15:35:41 UTC

you can only personally attack me

2017-05-19 15:35:41 UTC

your 6 points you cant prove reposted. awesome

2017-05-19 15:35:54 UTC

you are really a snowflake

2017-05-19 15:36:06 UTC

Capitalist society and mode of production is proved just by the philosophy of fascism and nazism alone

2017-05-19 15:36:29 UTC

@Blebleh Do you think I've proven them, to get a second opinion about this?

2017-05-19 15:36:45 UTC

no, it isnt...natsco was in opposition to international crdit loans...thats kinda why there was an international boycott

2017-05-19 15:36:50 UTC

yes, but he's searching for the international bankers

2017-05-19 15:37:03 UTC

like if industrialists weren't capitalists

2017-05-19 15:37:18 UTC

blehbleh do you thin i proved them??? omg lmfao

2017-05-19 15:37:36 UTC

Yes, it's called getting some outside perspective

2017-05-19 15:38:06 UTC

If only you, the person who's being debunked, denies those points as proven, then you're just in denial

2017-05-19 15:38:09 UTC

slack what is capitalism?

2017-05-19 15:38:15 UTC

interestingly enough igfarben wasnt officially liquidated until 1976... maybe you can further your argument by using that

2017-05-19 15:38:17 UTC

oh boy, here we go

2017-05-19 15:38:53 UTC

Tell us, what is capitalism @slack ?

2017-05-19 15:39:14 UTC

so let's think for a moment

2017-05-19 15:39:18 UTC

that they eliminated all usury

2017-05-19 15:39:40 UTC

the owners of the business are still extracting surplus value from the workers

2017-05-19 15:39:44 UTC

part of what they produce

2017-05-19 15:39:49 UTC

they aren't socialist

2017-05-19 15:40:15 UTC

And they're privatizing, and making deals with foreign, capitalist and powerful countries

2017-05-19 15:40:16 UTC

market distortion exists and the leaders have to obey the laws of the market

2017-05-19 15:41:01 UTC

"I can't explain this with my own words because I don't fully understand it so I'll just link this article that sounds smart and fancy"

2017-05-19 15:41:02 UTC

Yeah, no

2017-05-19 15:41:07 UTC

Tell us, slack

2017-05-19 15:41:10 UTC

What is capitalism

2017-05-19 15:41:29 UTC

nah...i'll just link to an article that gives you a solid historical foundation in the development of capitalism

2017-05-19 15:41:40 UTC

That's not what we're asking

2017-05-19 15:41:51 UTC

who is we?

2017-05-19 15:41:53 UTC

We're asking you to define capitalism

2017-05-19 15:41:57 UTC

Blebleh and I

2017-05-19 15:42:19 UTC

so get a room...i provided you with a solid answer...sorry it requires reading

2017-05-19 15:42:30 UTC

Yeah, so you can't even define what capitalism is

2017-05-19 15:42:34 UTC

What a waste of time

2017-05-19 15:43:20 UTC

i'm imagining right now you probably have a rather small dengus judging from the extent of your butthurt

2017-05-19 15:43:47 UTC

Now this isn't even funny, it's just pathetic

2017-05-19 15:44:11 UTC

like you arent omg

2017-05-19 15:44:25 UTC

Look slack, this might work with your parents and people who don't know shit about economy or politics, but you can't join a political server in discord and try to pull the same shit on us

2017-05-19 15:45:00 UTC

i stated unequivocally that capitalism is n extension of jewish usury.

2017-05-19 15:45:16 UTC

Because then you get debunked in 5 minutes and have to constantly post this pathetic passive-aggresive messages to protect your ideology and your ego

2017-05-19 15:45:19 UTC

"Capitalism is Usury. Its defining belief is โ€˜return on investmentโ€™. This is an extension of the โ€˜time valueโ€™ of money, which is the central tenet of modern economics. Capitalism is unthinkable without banking and banking is institutionalized Usury. "

2017-05-19 15:45:39 UTC

usually people who talk about parents still live with theirs, i find...whereas i live with my children

2017-05-19 15:45:45 UTC

this isn't capitalism

2017-05-19 15:46:12 UTC

Then god help your children, because you have the mindset of a 5 year old

2017-05-19 15:46:15 UTC

capitalism is thinkable without banking?

2017-05-19 15:46:16 UTC

capitalism means that workers are submitted to private owners, they have to sell their labour force

2017-05-19 15:46:32 UTC

and they receive a wage

2017-05-19 15:46:52 UTC

they're not in the same level of power

2017-05-19 15:47:02 UTC

to negotiate a "free contract"

2017-05-19 15:47:04 UTC

you have the mindset of a particular ankle biting archytype...your jimmies are rusteld...you dont understand what happened in the 1930s vis a vi germany...not my issue

2017-05-19 15:47:04 UTC

And the political knowledge of someone that uses wordpress as a reliable source

2017-05-19 15:47:41 UTC

Btw, blebleh is telling you what capitalism is, you should pay attention

2017-05-19 15:48:14 UTC

if you remove usury you still have what I said

2017-05-19 15:48:22 UTC

there are still classes

2017-05-19 15:48:24 UTC

thats an analysis stemming from leftist discourse...it isnt one based in historical emergence and fundamental precepts necessary for capital to function as an international entitiy...whereas the precept sof jewish usury do...as that is from where it stems

2017-05-19 15:48:29 UTC

It might help you in future discussions and hell, maybe even you'll learn a thing or two about economy

2017-05-19 15:48:52 UTC

it is based in historical emergence

2017-05-19 15:48:59 UTC

classes existed within feudalism too...class isnt capitalist in origin

2017-05-19 15:49:16 UTC

If you want to talk about historical emergence, then you should look at historical materialism, the relationships of power between oppressor and oppressed, etc.

2017-05-19 15:49:46 UTC

got no interest in talking to you, triggered snowflake with russian name but not russian.. too triggeredm too easily

2017-05-19 15:50:01 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-05-19 15:50:34 UTC

Now you're pulling the "nah, I'm not going to talk to you" card

2017-05-19 15:50:41 UTC

holy fuck, this is surreal

2017-05-19 15:50:42 UTC

in socialism there aren't classes

2017-05-19 15:50:52 UTC

there are only workers not the bourgeoisie

2017-05-19 15:51:26 UTC

don't confuse caste with class

2017-05-19 15:51:43 UTC

histoical materialism or dialectical materialism or whatever you what to frame it is...was and is fundamentally flawed as it denieshe breadth of expression needed to create functional cohesion withn a society...it relegates the breadth of human need

2017-05-19 15:52:16 UTC

Now in english, please

2017-05-19 15:52:32 UTC

caste and class? no, i wasnt....this is a semantic obsfuscation

2017-05-19 15:52:49 UTC

Seriously, what the fuck do you mean

2017-05-19 15:53:02 UTC

it denieshe breadth of expression needed to create functional cohesion withn a society...it relegates the breadth of human need

2017-05-19 15:53:08 UTC

??

2017-05-19 15:53:37 UTC

if you mean the dravidians in india, for example...wellm then that is different as it is genetic in expression....and to a certain extent at this poiht so is class...but without a solid analysis of race realism...it's all just flufff

2017-05-19 15:54:42 UTC

ooh so you reject historical materialism because of pseudoscientifc racism

2017-05-19 15:54:49 UTC

yes...dialectical materialism is fundamentally flawed as it prohibits the urgency of the phenomenological as a need among the proletariat

2017-05-19 15:54:54 UTC

this is old

2017-05-19 15:55:20 UTC

you think that people should have people above them because genetics?

2017-05-19 15:55:29 UTC

i suggest reading "why race matters" by levin...a jewish guy... they you can have an opinion on if racial determination is "pseudoscientific" lmao...

2017-05-19 15:55:32 UTC

race realism has been debunked millions of times, both theoretically and practically

2017-05-19 15:55:54 UTC

no, i didnt sy that...racial realism is not racism...

2017-05-19 15:56:07 UTC

nom,m it hasnt you shabbos

2017-05-19 15:56:23 UTC

IQ tests that depend on education?

2017-05-19 15:56:37 UTC

you cant debunk solid science with emoperical proof...you can only decry it as being unfair and then scream "debunked!" idiot

2017-05-19 15:56:39 UTC

IQ tests aren't even made to measure intelligence

2017-05-19 15:56:55 UTC

They're made to measure progress in education

2017-05-19 15:56:55 UTC

factoid

2017-05-19 15:57:11 UTC

initially yes...but not now...

2017-05-19 15:57:14 UTC

It's not a factoid, it's why it was invented in the first palce

2017-05-19 15:57:17 UTC

No, not initially

2017-05-19 15:57:31 UTC

it still has the same function

2017-05-19 15:57:31 UTC

for instance the average progress in education in syria is 82, whereas in germany it is 999

2017-05-19 15:57:34 UTC

99

2017-05-19 15:57:52 UTC

ah ok...you dont sound brainwashed

2017-05-19 15:57:59 UTC

Yes, that's why people who live in more poor countries usually score lower

2017-05-19 15:58:12 UTC

one big happy family free of capitalist oppression. jfc

2017-05-19 15:58:15 UTC

Lower IQ has always been tied to poverty, not race

2017-05-19 15:58:37 UTC

bullshit

2017-05-19 15:58:56 UTC

It's only racists who link it to, for example, black people in america, because it's useful for their agenda

2017-05-19 15:58:57 UTC

it's a tool for the reactionaries to call them dumb and justify their privilege

2017-05-19 15:59:08 UTC

from race, so they keep the status quo

2017-05-19 15:59:18 UTC

cambodians have one of the highest progress in education averages...such a wealthy country

2017-05-19 15:59:43 UTC

no, thats just parroting jewish bs

2017-05-19 16:01:41 UTC

balck guys run faster not cos of longer femurs and white guys swim better not cos less dense bones and more buoyant...that would be racist to say so and it obviously isnt true when you see the olympics and those not there physiological differences could never ever extend to innate intelligence quotients in terms of ethnicity...the sceience that has proven so...is just pseudoscience or something

2017-05-19 16:02:03 UTC

No, that's not racist to say

2017-05-19 16:02:11 UTC

Those are physical abilities

2017-05-19 16:02:21 UTC

but when it comes to intelligence, it isn't the same

2017-05-19 16:02:37 UTC

and you are apparently the arbniter of political correctness in the 21st century..if someone wants to know what is ok or not ok to say...just ask you

2017-05-19 16:02:50 UTC

You can see that results from people from the same economic background that are of different races overlap

2017-05-19 16:03:03 UTC

intelligence averages are already extensively investigated

2017-05-19 16:03:12 UTC

political correctness no, you base it to justify a state that is in the lives of the people and justifies one above another

2017-05-19 16:03:18 UTC

calling itself socialist when it's not

2017-05-19 16:03:42 UTC

in terms of ethnicity...its actually very very obvious...when your mind isnt obscrued by not wanting to say want isnt currently withion the accepted status quo of acceptable thought

2017-05-19 16:04:01 UTC

I love how the argument is that historical materialism is shit because black people are dumb

2017-05-19 16:04:16 UTC

It sure is an impressive "argument" to defend

2017-05-19 16:04:34 UTC

how is historical materialism false? the modes of production have been changed

2017-05-19 16:04:35 UTC

and yet its apparently my conceptions that are tantamount to those of a 5 yeard old child...you really QED'd that one

2017-05-19 16:05:14 UTC

i already stated why..the necessary prohibtion of the phenomological is flawed

2017-05-19 16:05:23 UTC

Yes, don't tell me it's more complex than that because you're basically saying that historical materialism is false because some races are more intelligent than others

2017-05-19 16:05:24 UTC

it can never work

2017-05-19 16:05:35 UTC

it already happened

2017-05-19 16:05:45 UTC

Or because races have different characteristics overall

2017-05-19 16:06:29 UTC

no, i was simply stating that some "races" vary in intellectual capactiy, uyes...with obviously bright people coming from all of them...i didnt actually say material dialecticism is flawed due to that, at all

2017-05-19 16:06:59 UTC

"yes...dialectical materialism is fundamentally flawed as it prohibits the urgency of the phenomenological as a need among the proletariat"

2017-05-19 16:07:00 UTC

material dialecticism, holy fuck

2017-05-19 16:07:28 UTC

"holy" fucvk...now you are starting to get a handle on irony...well done

2017-05-19 16:07:58 UTC

"histoical materialism or dialectical materialism or whatever you what to frame it is...was and is fundamentally flawed as it denieshe breadth of expression needed to create functional cohesion withn a society...it relegates the breadth of human need"

2017-05-19 16:08:15 UTC

yes, materialism doesnt meet the innate needs of the species

2017-05-19 16:08:29 UTC

what are those innate needs?

2017-05-19 16:08:39 UTC

in the USSR healthcare, the life expectancy skyrocketed, improvements for women, more GDP than other countries

2017-05-19 16:08:47 UTC

it worked without racism

2017-05-19 16:08:54 UTC

better than the other systems

2017-05-19 16:09:02 UTC

a need that the belief in "god" or whatever is not precluded

2017-05-19 16:09:05 UTC

also, impressive technological developments

2017-05-19 16:09:17 UTC

fast development

2017-05-19 16:09:39 UTC

well...the Poles that escaped the gulag system to iran might disagree with that

2017-05-19 16:09:52 UTC

bourgeois?

2017-05-19 16:09:59 UTC

or revisionist?

2017-05-19 16:10:01 UTC

or the czechs maybe

2017-05-19 16:10:04 UTC

The error was prosecuting gays

2017-05-19 16:10:17 UTC

because they believed the antigay pseudoscience in that time

2017-05-19 16:10:35 UTC

Oh, so now you take out the "gulag" card to disprove the economic miracle of the USSR when we haven't mentioned the holocaust once when discussing about nazi germany

2017-05-19 16:10:38 UTC

lezlek kolakowski...main currents in marxism..party member for decades...read that guy

2017-05-19 16:10:42 UTC

gulags are labour camps

2017-05-19 16:10:57 UTC

they're inherited from the tsarist katorga

2017-05-19 16:11:01 UTC

Nice double standards

2017-05-19 16:11:04 UTC

so are lao gais

2017-05-19 16:11:22 UTC

what double standards?

2017-05-19 16:11:39 UTC

Talk about economy, not gulags

2017-05-19 16:11:45 UTC

inherited> excused. nice logic

2017-05-19 16:11:53 UTC

Then we can have a somewhat decent discussion

2017-05-19 16:11:57 UTC

Come on

2017-05-19 16:12:10 UTC

you have no right to tell me what i can and cant talk about you little fascist gremlin

2017-05-19 16:12:15 UTC

Try to disprove the USSR's economical growth

2017-05-19 16:12:18 UTC

excuse of what?

2017-05-19 16:12:31 UTC

there were more prisoners in the US than in the USSR with Stalin

2017-05-19 16:12:42 UTC

and what if they had?

2017-05-19 16:13:03 UTC

A nazi criticizing gulags and forced labour, this is hilarious ๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-05-19 16:13:05 UTC

good guy stalin. oh no tankies

2017-05-19 16:13:17 UTC

I'm not humanist

2017-05-19 16:13:34 UTC

they kill more and a revolution isn't something pacific

2017-05-19 16:13:40 UTC

i'm not a nazi..i simply stated that natsco was the only viable texistential threat to international capital thus far seen

2017-05-19 16:13:53 UTC

No, of course you're not, my friend

2017-05-19 16:14:00 UTC

You only defend nazi germany until death

2017-05-19 16:14:06 UTC

and "race realism"

2017-05-19 16:14:11 UTC

but totally not a nazi, no sir

2017-05-19 16:14:37 UTC

@Blebleh We should've listened to Durruti

2017-05-19 16:14:47 UTC

you're a bit hysterical...but it's to be expected when someone tries to point out the merits to valuing labour over capital

2017-05-19 16:15:05 UTC

yeah go shhot a taxi driver..that;ll make you cool

2017-05-19 16:15:25 UTC

a taxi driver?

2017-05-19 16:15:37 UTC

in a revolution a class overthrows another one

2017-05-19 16:15:43 UTC

you probably should go listen to errico malatesta...let his spirit slap you about a bit

2017-05-19 16:16:02 UTC

1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them
6. Funded by US bankers

2017-05-19 16:16:11 UTC

Ahhh, what a nice sight

2017-05-19 16:16:18 UTC

in a reviolution, profiteers exploit the utopian ideologues

2017-05-19 16:16:22 UTC

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6

2017-05-19 16:16:30 UTC

All of them, there

2017-05-19 16:16:41 UTC

6 points unproven reiterated. congrats

2017-05-19 16:16:41 UTC

in a socialist revolution profiteers are expropriated

2017-05-19 16:16:52 UTC

from capitalism to socialism

2017-05-19 16:17:03 UTC

if there's a feudal stage they could make alliances

2017-05-19 16:17:06 UTC

specially with peasants

2017-05-19 16:17:25 UTC

the french revolution is a different one

2017-05-19 16:17:37 UTC

the jacobins were jewish lololol

2017-05-19 16:17:53 UTC

>can't differentiate a bourgeois revolution and a proletarian one

2017-05-19 16:17:53 UTC

it doesn't matter

2017-05-19 16:18:11 UTC

Where did you study, slack?

2017-05-19 16:18:12 UTC

yeah, it kinda does

2017-05-19 16:18:23 UTC

Genuinely curious

2017-05-19 16:18:25 UTC

at your moms

2017-05-19 16:18:25 UTC

brb

2017-05-19 16:18:52 UTC

Do you tell your kids that too?

2017-05-19 16:18:57 UTC

Well, you know

2017-05-19 16:19:01 UTC

Your "kids"

2017-05-19 16:19:10 UTC

no i show them my pictures of hanging out with the zapatistas

2017-05-19 16:19:16 UTC

The imaginary ones that you say you have on the internet

2017-05-19 16:19:27 UTC

if you say so

2017-05-19 16:19:29 UTC

You're mexican?

2017-05-19 16:19:38 UTC

nope

2017-05-19 16:19:53 UTC

What are you doing with the zapatistas in the first place

2017-05-19 16:20:17 UTC

drinking and laughing at kidnap photos of the mayor of san cristobal de la casa

2017-05-19 16:20:49 UTC

Aren't commies part of a jewish plot?

2017-05-19 16:21:00 UTC

You youself said it a while back

2017-05-19 16:21:23 UTC

useful idiots to some extent, obviously...but communism is virulent meme and extend outwards as any successful ideological meme

2017-05-19 16:22:57 UTC

Sure, because the useful idiots are the ones who want to change the system from top to bottom and directly eliminate any kind of bourgeoisie, jewish or not, not the ones who fight for an authoritarian capitalist state that has links to powerful capitalist countries and still exploits their workers and accumulates capital

2017-05-19 16:23:31 UTC

Those are the useful idiots, not the slaves of capitalist tactics

2017-05-19 16:23:38 UTC

nothing wrong with wanting a fairer world. shrugs

2017-05-19 16:23:40 UTC

Sure.

2017-05-19 16:24:06 UTC

you mentioned zizek...so maybe get a grip on hegel more

2017-05-19 16:24:13 UTC

Fairer while being exploited by a capitalist that's protected by the government and can make you starve if he wants to? that's just wanting to be a slave

2017-05-19 16:24:40 UTC

no, you are misappropriating my words and inserting your own inferences...yet again

2017-05-19 16:25:00 UTC

I'm not misappropiating anything, those are the consequences of the society you want

2017-05-19 16:25:28 UTC

how can you be truly be salient to political rhetoric...if you cannot debated competently?

2017-05-19 16:25:30 UTC

There's nothing more dangerous that a slave that defends his masters, or even worse, wants even more authoritarian masters

2017-05-19 16:25:48 UTC

the society i want? i dont believe i ever even braioched what i want, tbf

2017-05-19 16:26:05 UTC

You just did

2017-05-19 16:26:09 UTC

i mentioned some aspect sof nsdap policy...you inferred from this that i am a national socialist

2017-05-19 16:26:33 UTC

You have every single aspect of what makes someone national "socialist"

2017-05-19 16:26:36 UTC

the logical progression you employ is monolithic ..learn to debate better

2017-05-19 16:26:46 UTC

Yeah, sure

2017-05-19 16:27:07 UTC

i have every single aspect etc etc.... well, actually no...thats just your doctinaire programming speaking

2017-05-19 16:27:24 UTC

hahah too easy. this is why people flee the far left

2017-05-19 16:27:53 UTC

The guy who completely avoids every argument I make, constantly makes personal attacks, discusses about the discussion as a way to protect himself and can't even speak english properly, is going tell me that I need to debate better.

2017-05-19 16:28:04 UTC

Yeah, no

2017-05-19 16:28:11 UTC

i'm an interlocutor, not more..i havent told you a damn thing about my own position

2017-05-19 16:28:41 UTC

well, actuyally if you scroll up...most of your comments are all about me personally

2017-05-19 16:28:47 UTC

Sure, because the jewish plots, defending nazi germany and race realism aren't nazi characteristics, no sir

2017-05-19 16:28:53 UTC

even though you are simply guessing

2017-05-19 16:29:04 UTC

i am jewish lol

2017-05-19 16:29:24 UTC

or rather was

2017-05-19 16:29:28 UTC

Yeah, now you're just trolling

2017-05-19 16:29:53 UTC

ah ok...i see it is more of a case of highlighting how fragile your dogma is

2017-05-19 16:29:58 UTC

I'm sure nazi germany would be a paradise for you, as you said

2017-05-19 16:30:12 UTC

"a paradise for workers"

2017-05-19 16:30:24 UTC

i never said it would be...i said it was a paradise for its workers and that is true comparative to pre 33 germany

2017-05-19 16:30:30 UTC

They check the census, see you're jewish, to the camp you go

2017-05-19 16:30:40 UTC

i also said it was a reactionary ethnostate, but you chose not to see that point

2017-05-19 16:31:01 UTC

Because I tend to discuss what I disagree with

2017-05-19 16:31:12 UTC

You also said it was socialist

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