I used to be of that opinion too.

Subjective versus objective.

I just wasn't compelled by the evidence that consciousness is not entirely comprised of chemical reactions in your brain and nothing more.

I know, that's not my contention whatsoever.

I mean, the lack of evidence.

Ok

That's cool, I'm just being very precise with *my* words so people understand what *I* mean. I'm not trying to correct you.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

Lots of pseudoscience in here

And they are just as likely to be wrong as everyone else

The US government employs pseudoscientific people a lot more than people would probably like to admit

It's pretty disgusting

Not in here specifically

But in this document

One last go. Our subjective experience - consciousness, whatever you want to call it - is the first thing we confront in the world. It is primary to our existence, however it really arises. It is interpretive and intuitive, not scientific or all-knowing. Referring back to spirituality and life, it is a byproduct of this natural state, the way man works and lives in the world. It does not mean, at all, it is correct in an objective sense, it is just his impression of things. It can clearly be demonstrated by science that his ideas are misplaced, like someone believing dreams really happen. But then, knowing the objective explanation of subjective experience is not enough to stop it, cancel it, or modify it to not be mistaken again. It is only possible to re-interpret and fight against our intuitions. But it is apart of our mechanics as human beings, our nature.

Ehh

Mankind has to become something else entirely to stop believing in myths.

I'm pretty awake to all of those little mechanisms

Or misunderstandings.

When you have an anxiety disorder, you notice the animalistic underpinnings of your consciousness when you have anxiety-provoking experiences.

Child humans should have to take group therapy classes at school every day

Learn the mechanisms of their mind so they aren't confused or frightened as it develops.

Also, you know, make it known that it's okay to have feelings.

For whatever reason, we don't teach kids that it's okay to have feelings in school.

Educative therapy would be beneficial to all humans

Confusion and fear about ones own existence is the cause of the modern right.

Everything is based on some amygdalic emotional fight-or-flight response

I think I agree. Man's life has to accommodate his animal underpinnings it order to be happy and succeed in the world. And the best model of this is agrarianism, because it allows man to develop and know his spiritual nature.

But why is it a spiritual nature?

Is that just the word you choose to employ?

That was my big issue.

"Spiritual"

Man finds himself hungry so he eats. His need for God is the same.

Is my need for drugs the same?

Can drugs be my god?

Somewhat, although you need drugs because life has become corrupted.

Can LSD be my spirit?

What about mushrooms? They grow in the ground.

No because spirits is drinks

smh

Cultivating mushrooms is perfectly spiritual, isn't it?

I don't take psychedelic drugs to have fun, man.

As long as it is agrarian

Probably not sustainable as the simple and perfect fulfilment of toiling the land.

Of course not

How many small self-sufficient farmers only grow one thing?

But why would you need to escape with psychedelics if your livelihood fulfils your every need?

I can assure you, being a farmer would not do that for me.

I was born in 1993, in California.

You wouldn't even know, all you know is modern sickness.

I do not consider this internet chat server about leftist politics to be a modern sickness.

I am plagued with a modern sickness

it is called apathy

help me

THis.

The world is plagued with mediocrity.

Bill Hicks already called us out on it years a go.

Every schlock CGI cartoon movie released today is exactly mediocrity at its finest and most well-produced.

*The farmer has a solid, stable position in the world order. He "has a sense of identity, a sense of historical and religious tradition, a feeling of belonging to a concrete family, place, and region, which are psychologically and culturally beneficial." The harmony of his life checks the encroachments of a fragmented, alienated modern society.*

YouTube is plagued by mediocrity

I think I may have torn a tendon in my leg.

Is there scientific evidence that the "feeling of belonging to a concrete family, place, and region" is "psychologically and culturally beneficial"?

Sounds like that is just assumed to be self-evident

The feeling of oceaness?

I forget who called it that

The feeling of family that I have is with every single person in the world

It is supremely self-evident. All faculties and wants totally fulfilled.

The feeling of region that I have is with every single inch of terrain on this rock

The concept of god, do you believe hell is real?

depends what kind of Christian you ask

I don't believe in god and I don't believe in the afterlife.

Life is an illusion, but the funny part is that behind the illusion, there is the void.

https://www.rt.com/news/398146-moscow-us-diplomats-sanctions/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

Say a ghetto full of homeless, would that be like a hell on earth?

No, that would be a sad sign of the times.

A warzone is hell on earth.

The atomic bomb is hell on earth.

http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1921061.html

Wow, what is POWER?

Okay, so a warzone, you can fly over one, drive through one, but youll never come a mile within those who live in it, if you live there long enough your state of mind can become nothing but murderous thoughts

Yes.

Whats power and how do I represent anarchoagrarianism

So in ine case it exists, its a real place, but you cant just go there physixally

But other people can

And they can take pictures of it.

Am i making sense? Im not sure im making the thought experiment clear

There aren't any pictures of hell.

Hell is not a physical place in all sects of Christianity.

Hell on earth is, of course, an approximation

Hell could literally just be exactly like heaven for all we know.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07207a.htm

And comparing it to a warzone could be completely wrong.

You can drive through the warzone but you never come a mile within the people who live there, you see them physically but you are not mentally there, you are not starving daily, killing daily, hell is just as much a state of mind as it is a physical place, is what im trying to say

Been there.

You dont understand though, warzone is just one example, hell can be subjective to who you ask

Exactly.