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2017-05-19 14:45:16 UTC

platitudinous comment

2017-05-19 14:45:22 UTC

Hitler didn't do shit to some strategic jews

2017-05-19 14:45:36 UTC

anticapitalist or anticommunist, choose one

2017-05-19 14:45:51 UTC

yeah, thats right...the trajectory of nsdap policty was one of increasing leniency not vice versa as you would promulgate

2017-05-19 14:45:57 UTC

So not only you don't do anything to capitalists, you also let some very powerful jews stay?

2017-05-19 14:46:02 UTC

National socialism is a joke

2017-05-19 14:46:08 UTC

they are not mutually exclusive, blebleh

2017-05-19 14:46:15 UTC

the hitlerite branch even removed strasserists

2017-05-19 14:46:22 UTC

True

2017-05-19 14:46:36 UTC

yes they are

2017-05-19 14:46:37 UTC

Both Strasser brothers were taken care of

2017-05-19 14:46:44 UTC

And you know why?

2017-05-19 14:46:46 UTC

national socialism was the obnly credible existential threat to international capital ever and the most significant economic thurnaround in recorded history lololol

2017-05-19 14:46:49 UTC

Because they were actually socialists

2017-05-19 14:46:59 UTC

they don't want to seize the means of production

2017-05-19 14:47:05 UTC

With some serious nationalistic spooks, but socialists nonetheless

2017-05-19 14:47:11 UTC

yes, the third position is interesting, that is true

2017-05-19 14:47:37 UTC

Strasserite here

2017-05-19 14:47:43 UTC

good on you

2017-05-19 14:48:44 UTC

communism has been, and still, the threat to capital

2017-05-19 14:49:03 UTC

threat to international capital> funded by international capital....eh

2017-05-19 14:49:08 UTC

So, so far we have

1. Capitalist society and mode of production
2. Massive privatization
3. Persecution of actual national socialists
4. Deals with capitalists all around the world (from very powerful and capitalist countries)
5. Many powerful jews still alive because Hitler was interested in them

And you dare to say it was socialist, holy fuck ๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-05-19 14:49:21 UTC

there have been countless of operations against them

2017-05-19 14:49:22 UTC

there are political prisoners too

2017-05-19 14:49:24 UTC

and blocked countries

2017-05-19 14:49:45 UTC

total misreading of it....when Schlacht was finally ousted..the war began soon after

2017-05-19 14:49:47 UTC

not funded by international capital

2017-05-19 14:50:07 UTC

in a planned economy the workers produce all for themselves

2017-05-19 14:50:16 UTC

got the list of jewish banking houses here...if you want...not even just Nyabanken

2017-05-19 14:50:41 UTC

for free?

2017-05-19 14:50:49 UTC

reading with confirmation bias, is a bitch

2017-05-19 14:51:27 UTC

"Another elusive case of reported financing of Hitler is that of Fritz Thyssen, the German steel magnate who associated himself with the Nazi movement in the early 20s."

2017-05-19 14:51:40 UTC

communism is a movement to abolish the present state of things, it wants to advance to socialism, removing the capitalists

2017-05-19 14:51:46 UTC

"Thyssen's U.S. partners were, of course, prominent members of the Wall Street financial establishment."

2017-05-19 14:51:59 UTC

making conspiracies about the tenets doesn't work for us

2017-05-19 14:52:03 UTC

*really makes me think*

2017-05-19 14:52:10 UTC

it's a sneaky co option of classical english anarchism penned by a 3rd cousin to the rothschild dynasty and for all his works he never named them even once....just vaguaries "the capitalist" lololol

2017-05-19 14:52:34 UTC

the capitalist is well defined

2017-05-19 14:52:37 UTC

but you didn't read

2017-05-19 14:52:38 UTC

"Nazi financier Hendrik Jozef Kouwenhoven, Roland Harriman's fellow-director at Union Banking Corporation in New York, was managing director of the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. (BHS) of Rotterdam. In 1940 the BHS held approximately $2.2 million assets in the Union Banking Corporation, which in turn did most of its business with BHS.20 In the 1930s Kouwenhoven was also a director of the Vereinigte Stahlwerke A.G., the steel cartel founded with Wall Street funds in the mid-1920s. Like Baron Schroder, he was a prominent Hitler supporter."

2017-05-19 14:52:52 UTC

the owners of the means of productions are the bourgeoisie

2017-05-19 14:52:59 UTC

bankers included

2017-05-19 14:53:57 UTC

Do you think that the bank of the USSR was private?

2017-05-19 14:54:01 UTC

it's not a "conspiracy" it's geneaology straight dope...and to be fair..it was you that mentioned the spectre of 33rd degree masonry anfter bleating out the catchword "anti semitism" lolol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/315140042244882434/marx_3rd.png

2017-05-19 14:54:23 UTC

@slack#7189 looks like Hitler was financed by US bankers, really makes me think

2017-05-19 14:54:25 UTC

antisemitism for bakunin

2017-05-19 14:54:28 UTC

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2017-05-19 14:54:35 UTC
2017-05-19 14:54:47 UTC

no, the nsdap got no funding after 33 and i already looked a lot into that.

2017-05-19 14:55:02 UTC

bloodlines don't determine class

2017-05-19 14:55:05 UTC

muh above top secret

2017-05-19 14:55:09 UTC

we're in a class society not a society of castes

2017-05-19 14:55:25 UTC

ah do you think it's fake?

2017-05-19 14:55:41 UTC

are you trying to tell me these bankers didn't know in what they were investing?

2017-05-19 14:55:43 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-05-19 14:55:46 UTC

well, i say...fuck jewish supremacism in the eye...so i guess that would mean to you i hate all jews

2017-05-19 14:56:01 UTC

Not necessarily

2017-05-19 14:56:13 UTC

Jews are one thing, zionism is other

2017-05-19 14:56:24 UTC

there was no investment after 1933...the nsdap went off plantation....hence samuel untermeyers speech

2017-05-19 14:56:29 UTC

But seriously slack, don't embarass yourself more

2017-05-19 14:56:41 UTC

zionists and static jewish power were in conflict in the 30s

2017-05-19 14:56:46 UTC

no, communists aren't for jewish supremacism

2017-05-19 14:56:54 UTC

Everything you've said so fair has been easily debunked in less than one second

2017-05-19 14:57:04 UTC

i'm not embarrassing myself, i am highlighting the usual arguments as being fallacious

2017-05-19 14:57:24 UTC

easily debunked in less than one second....sounds legit

2017-05-19 14:57:25 UTC

They're not fallacious as there's proof of every one of them

2017-05-19 14:57:33 UTC

lenin lets it clear that the party doesn't have to be influenced by religion

2017-05-19 14:57:38 UTC

and Albania was the first socialist atheist state

2017-05-19 14:57:55 UTC

theres proof for a lot of things in a controlled and rewritten academic appraisal

2017-05-19 14:57:57 UTC

Not only that, state atheism was spread like crazy

2017-05-19 14:58:09 UTC

you can search all their texts

2017-05-19 14:58:15 UTC

whereas...if you go back tot he source documents...then it's a little bit different

2017-05-19 14:58:16 UTC

Yeah, now it's all a historical revisionism, sure

2017-05-19 14:58:30 UTC

could never happen

2017-05-19 14:58:38 UTC

^fallacy

2017-05-19 14:58:55 UTC

triggered ^

2017-05-19 14:58:56 UTC

haha then you have to invent a global conspiracy that rewrites all the texts and hides it; even with the opposition of the communists, like a hidden and almighty elite that never gets wrong

2017-05-19 14:59:08 UTC

wat

2017-05-19 14:59:15 UTC

even though communists and capitalists are against each other

2017-05-19 14:59:23 UTC

in your eyes

2017-05-19 14:59:24 UTC

when going from capitalism to socialism

2017-05-19 14:59:36 UTC

no, this is reality

2017-05-19 14:59:36 UTC

different pay grade

2017-05-19 14:59:46 UTC

it's denying all the evidence, practice and theory

2017-05-19 14:59:51 UTC

it's your dogmatic version of peer approved reality

2017-05-19 15:00:00 UTC

it can be seen in real life just with the unions alone; capital is reactive

2017-05-19 15:00:07 UTC

k

2017-05-19 15:00:13 UTC

Slack, what I'm doing is going to the original sources and telling you why you're wrong. What you're doing is trying to push a national socialist agenda that's only lies on top of more lies to hide the fact that they were as capitalist as anyone else

2017-05-19 15:00:24 UTC

we're not metaphyisical

2017-05-19 15:00:37 UTC

we're materialists, we don't justify oppression and call ourselves socialists because yes

2017-05-19 15:00:41 UTC

i'm not trying to push anything except nuances that communists cant bear to hear

2017-05-19 15:00:49 UTC

Look, retard

2017-05-19 15:01:08 UTC

You're saying nazi germany was socialist and I've given you several examples of why it wasn't

2017-05-19 15:01:18 UTC

And you keep covering your ears and shouting

2017-05-19 15:01:29 UTC

it's not me who can't bear nuance and critique

2017-05-19 15:02:51 UTC

Not only did the workers NOT own the MoP, it acted like the most economically neoliberal country in practice, while being politically authoritarian, given the examples I provided earlier

2017-05-19 15:04:56 UTC

You're basically defending what you're supposed to be against just to protect your ideology (in a zizekian sense)

2017-05-19 15:07:37 UTC

socialism is based on the common wheel, simple as that...your co option of it is the imposter

2017-05-19 15:08:19 UTC

lol well considering i am already a retard and dense faggot, it may well be you that is having some difficulty keeping their jimmies unrusteld lololol

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