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@gronkt A duginite?

no I think commies are retarded

so youre just here to troll?

I just want to get rid of corruption in capitalism and stop the globalists

I find it retarded that commies support globalist

the claims to represent the working class are false

I see antifa attacking working class people

I fucking despise Antifa.

cool

bunch of kids rebelling against their parents

Antifa has potential.

I think some socialism is good but I don't want the government dictating to people taking away freedom and private property

What I hate about them is how they drive people further right, and make people sympathise with the 'fascists' they attack.

Antifa is doomed and has pushed more people to the right

they attack patriots and call them nazis

calling everyone a nazi waters down the power of the word and makes them look like retards

National pride is nonsense

bullshit

To them, Nazi means anyone who doesn't agree with them 100%.

it is good to be proud of your ancestors and your family and Country

morals and values are passed on

And division between people persists

open borders means you lose all identity and are open to attacks from people that want to take stuff for themselves

you end up in poverty

As long as there is difference, there is division.

For me, if people have pride in their country, and their country espouses good values, then the country's patriots would have good values.

Of course, this doesn't mean the country *always* has good values.

there are different people and cultures in the World, we are not meant to all look and act the same

forcing everyone to believe in the one system that takes away their culture and freedom is evil

'We're not meant to all look and act the same' what's your argument for that?

no argument just look at the diversity of the people of the World

you want to destroy that diversity and create a mono culture

Which developed over thousands of years of isolation

people are happy living their own way and it is evil to take that away from them

especially by force

Then explain the Soviet Union.

The Jews used the Bolsheviks to wipe out the Russian Orthodox Christians

you think that was good

Didn't people just practice Christianity in secret?

stealing food off farmers so they starve to death

No, because most of the Soviet Union was still Orthodox, it was just not allowed in politics.

They made state religion Atheism, but they gave freedom of religion.

after they commies took over yes they had to follow their religion in secret and were killed by the kgb for doing so

why would you want to live like this ?

Because i'm already atheist 😉

No, they were allowed to follow their religion, just not openly and shove it in people's faces.

people should be free to believe in what they like

Which is what the Soviet Union had.

so you are a facist that forces their beliefs on others

They fled

they were slaughtered

Russians r too prideful to practice things they believe in in secret anyway

:p

Jesus i hate this server

Why?

The Soviet Union had freedom of religion and was still Orthodox for the majority of the population.

Cuz he's the smartest of them all obviously

@Deleted User Agreed, let's get out of here.

Because of Right-Wing cucks like @gronkt is allowed to join

I'm leaving.

the kgb rounded up Christians

Why can't leftist handle free speech

Yeah, FREEZE PEACH

you can't handle the truth

They are so authoritarian

typical commie bullshit, want to force others at gunpoint to follow your stupid belief system

Yet call others facist

Who disagree

All authoritarians are fascist?

Non

Just meant lefties like to call people who disagree with them that

Yeah, a lot of us do.

Yet are mostly intolerant of other opinions or ideas

so these clowns are not even open to a discussion on their belief system and run away

I wasn't trolling

I don't really want to force my ideas onto others?

not you

The other peeps

the other 2

capitalism is already a coercive system of exploitation

That's like the third rage quit ive seen today

too much truth hurts

Capitalism only exploits those who r bad at it

the state under capitalism is violent, only sometimes that violence comes out in other ways, like wars overseas. follow the trail of property and money

Idiot, capitalism isn't coercive! People have a choice! Work or starve! Its not coercion because they have a choice!

exactly capitalism is inherently exploitative and forces every to become a blood sucker

like nobody is saying capitalism isn't corrupt and needs improving, I am against destroying society and starting again with a new belief system that has been proven to fail on many occasions

The proletariat belongs at the bottom :p subservient to their masters as they usually choose that fate of their own volition when faced with the prospects of revolution

not really, one has to understand the force of history, the spirit as hegel would say

Listening

the proletariat might have had its time, but the contradiction between capital and labour persists

labour has not fulfilled its potential, either in the ussr or under liberalism

the communist idea persists because it is the idea of emancipation from thraldom to the cash nexus

the problem is monopolies that stop a competative market and corporations using 3rd World Countries for slave labour

You can accomplish the same thing with anarchy tho

Better than communism

the offshoring of labour is a problem but the search for profits is a capitalist problem

if employees are paid fairly there is no problem with it

i am anarchocommunist so i am communist without the state, which is what marx and engels were when they weren't playing politics