Revolution is going to hurt.

@Nicholas91 Jesus didn't want you to fall into consumerism, if he did, it woulden't make sense as to why he would be so humble, and small, when compared to what was going on around him.

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He was no enemy of the common man, that is for sure.

Prosperity theology

I wasnt talking about christianity itself

Ah, you are talking about the church and what not?

not as a whole

Im talking about how capitalism made its own version of christianity

Im pro religion weirdly, otherwise.

No I agree with you, the churches are a fucking shitshow and are appalling, being directly contradictory to 99% of the true beliefs of christianity.

Yet i dont think we should run with atheism either. its current form has mutated into something weird

Its a private matter anyway

No, I hate athiests with a passion.

Yeah me too

In reality, we should just follow the religions, and not the books or the churches, because any of the original meaning in them, has been lost.

I think we sort of need a new era of religion

less dogmatic

more open to psychedelic experience.etc

What exactly are you proposing that religion just becomes a tool for druggies to hang out in and to shoot dope?

No shooting heroin has nothing to do with it

I mean, using substances like dmt and peyote

which are used already, religiously

No fucking way.

Have you ever had a psychedelic drug?

What you are proposing ia already sacreligious enough to nearly all religions, and you are just making religion a tool for druggies to do dope and to trip out, and calling it a "Religious experience".

have you?

drugs are not a monolithic thing

Psychedelic drugs are far from pleasant

and have been used for thousands of years relgiously already

I do not need to be a druggy to realize the effects of what they can and have done to bastardize not just groups, but the people in them as well.

Doing a drug once does not make you a druggy

And psychedelic drugs are really something profound. Clearly you've never had one. I recommend you read doors of perception by huxley

Be open on this one

They have been used in the native tribes of africa and north america, with people who are unicivilized, and barbaric in their nature, it does not matter to me anyway, because the people who used to do it died long ago, and such a thing has fallen out of style for good reason.

I am not going to do your substances just because you say "DUDE IT IS REALLY COOL", I have seen what they have done to people, groups, and countries, and I will have no part in it.

you are very poorly informed about this lol

psychedelics arent addictive. ever

They are some of the safest drugs.

and they are hardly out of style.

@Nicholas91 When did I say they were addictive?

many people get off drugs like heroin with them

You seem to think they've done harm

they haven't

not dmt, not peyote

No, you have a bad trip on them, and you are permanently scarred for life, or you kill yourself or someone else while you are high as a kite on them.

yes I wouldnt recommend LSD

That does not happen with LSD, it happens with peyote, and DMT as well

Ok on dmt you cant even move

Doubtable.

Oh trust me on that one

I won't.

I'll tell you about dmt

and you make up your mind ok

Why should I care about a persons opinion on something, which is clearly biased and opinionated?

I did it because i was morbidly depressed and decided to see what the deal was and if it was spiritual whatever that means

So i got some

Had it.

And immediately became part of the universe as a totality experiencing itself

Time past and present became one

And so you became reliant on a drug that induces a false sense of reliality in order to become happy, how pitiful and sad.

and I realised how silly my little existential drama was

No i had it once

It opened my mind to seeing the world a little different

It as scary

But

Yes, you relied on it in order invoke a false sense of happiness.

left me with a profoundly new perspective

no it wasnt happy

It was scary as fucking shit

and deeply confronting

Yet you came out of it happy.

I came out of it with an experience that suggested there was more to this universe

than i thought

thats all.

You have some conflicting statements about this experience, earlier you were stating that you felt euphoric, but now you are stating that it was scary.

I never said it was euphoric

It isnt so i wouldnt say that lol

its like facing your own death

Yes, you very much did state that, or your wording is so god damn bad that you made it sound like euphoriam

But hey I got a concept of god that is way more interesting than a man in the sky

So what did I do wrong doing that rex?

I certainly feel like my reality has a degree of meaning that it didnt have before

I'm open to a god of sorts

Now say what you want but why shouldnt i have had that experience?

I certainly dont want to kill myself anymore

@Nicholas91 When you begin to interprit things from a false reality, you start to believe absurd and untrue things.

Whats the false belief here?

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Communism is the one that sticks out the most to me.

I just want the best for the majority

I want the best for you!?

Unfortunately, communism will not benefit the majority at all.

Never has, and never will.

Well things arent working right now

Not working right now for what?

For the species

the system of organization we have is clearly not working any more

That's not quite specific.