Though different people will have different solutions

Which is why you have so many obnoxipus people with their (brand) of socialism

Like you noted earlier

so what you're saying is that the government won't be collecting enough taxes to sustain itself and that is the problem with low taxes?

No, that was for a specific example

Being up way too late and trying to think of something to write is like being drunk and trying to think of something to say

TBH

i wans to know how the economy will start to fail in the long term

alright im fucking out

what is the process behind that happening

I thought you said you read marx...

if the corporate tax rate causes businesses to come back

create jobs

what processes in effect will cause the economy to decline and unemployment to rise?

Its not that simple, also i just gave you an example of why it wont work

More than a trillion dollars expected to be added to the national debt

US already has a massive debt to gdp ratio

national debt makes more sense

you said deficit before

Yeah sorry

Edited

ya

Also, if the world didnt have USD as a reserve currency, US would be fucked

Calvin Coolidge presided over an economic boom by doing nothing, but as he passed the reins over to Herbert Hoover the economy basically imploded

well look i can get behind that but with all things considered we have to cut the government by a lot

@Nike @Brickiest Brick And don't forget that this is happening while, as you (brick) said, "businesses are coming back" from what is supposed to be a prospering time

the reason the government can't support itself is because it's too big

the government needs to find a balance between how much in taxes it takes in and how big it is

Ok...

I dont think it will work

You wont find a balance

What about capital accumulation?

You can find a temporary one

But the contradictions of capitalism will keep accumulating

i mean, at this point this is more of a criticism of democracy

because different presidents and different governments are elected

they change how the government works and operates

what about economic democracy

how much it spends

You seem to be under the impression that communism has to happen under a big government

We need economic and workplace democract

so really capitalism is not at fault, more so it is democracy and our democratic system

Thats too simplistic

no its not enough democracy in many ways

this

^

i'm not saying abolish democracy

not at all

We know

businesses aren't democratic

there are more democratic ways of running production

democracy has its flaws, i'm just acknowledging its flaws

Democratize the enterprize - the alpha wolff

look up what a co operative is

i am not purist in that regard

you cannot have a 100% great system

you have to deal with flaws

Watch richard wolff videos

Hes a Marxist economist

Might be more for your taste

Yes please someone link a good intro with wolff

He is a great educator

wolff daddy

if you want to learn

dont come here

watch him

Can I post my US presidential rankings?

link a video ill watch it

https://youtu.be/qbgFvqKppIU

you're gonna put FDR at #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg

Not quite

Dat intro musix

Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt Jr.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Dwight David "Ike" Eisenhower (born David Dwight Eisenhower)
Harry S Truman
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams
William Howard Taft
James Knox Polk
John Calvin Coolidge Jr.
Chester Alan Arthur
James Abram Garfield
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Martin Van Buren
Benjamin Harrison
James Earl "Jimmy" Carter
George Herbert Walker Bush
Ulysses S. Grant (born Hiram Ulysses Grant)
William McKinley
Zachary Taylor
Barack Hussein Obama
Rutherford Birchard Hayes
Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr.
William Jefferson Clinton
John Adams
Thomas Woodrow Wilson
William Henry Harrison
John Tyler
Ronald Wilson Reagan
Warren Gamaliel Harding
Stephen Grover Cleveland
Richard Milhous Nixon
Andrew Johnson
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
Donald John Trump
George Walker Bush
Andrew Jackson
Herbert Clark Hoover
James Buchanan Jr.

what are you

FDR is at least top 3

abe lincoln #1

He freed the goddamn slaves

i love free domain radio. since leaving my family. I no longer am opressed by statists n women

You can't beat that, I'm sorry

he also wanted to deport them back to africa

I'm not contesting that

but he got shot

wtf abe lincoln got shot????

the back to africa movment is a bit more complex than that

i thought he was still aroudn!!!!

he was going to deport them back to africa

@Brickiest Brick watch contrapoints or wolff

he said in his own words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement

so we can discuss other things

im listening to wolff now

good

black zionism

I hope you find the light brother

we dont have the answers but we got the diagnosis

Yeah i agree

I dont know if we have a comprehensive solution, but we shouls first agree on the problems and whats causing them

Yeah I think we have a way to go before we can unite under a socialism for the 21st century

i am 5 mins into the video