Its difficult, ill admit

wait

how is it unattainable

@Rushack I'm your dad

Even leftists cant agree on how to reach the goal...

there is a difference between an opinion and an opinion backed by facts and logical evidence

The unattainable argument is shit and never changes minds

We dont even know if we have an answer

Arch is channeling George Wallace's strategy of "say as much provocative shit as possible to get attention"

please tell me how this is a delusional fantasy

That is so glib @Brickiest Brick

Especially when you don't know the specifics of what the audience wants

the truth is capitalism is the best system we have

I'm happy to find a better ideiology

I mean opponent

how

and socialism will bring us backwards

Everyone likes to pretend they use facts while the other ises feelings

@Brickiest Brick <=== faggot

again how

@(((RobotWizard)))#3986 Ask Nike he said that first lol

>Capitalism is the best but it's dying

?

but, i can cite my facts, just let me know which ones to cite

instead of strawmanning

Literally Lenin tier argument

Gay af

The best we have so far, i said

@Deleted User "I'm your dad"
t. 14 year old

Let's ""evolve"" our society into capitalism so it gets all fucked up and we never exit

The best countries were all technically capitalist

imagine using age as an argument

Just watch contrapoints n if that doesnt work then we wont cause you clearly arent going to read marx or anything

That's Lenin

Ok so how is capitalism the best system

And the USSR

@Rushack that's a weird family tree

Are you asking me robot?

how is better than a system that seeks to eradicate things like poverty

which are a consequence of the system

the majority of countries are capitalist, i'm trying to know why socialism is a superior system

either one

Your methods to eradicate poverty are garbage

whoever feels like answering

so your arguement is from the majority

Magical post-scarcity

so basically because more countries are capitalist Socialsim is garbage

alright fuck this whatever i'm respectfully leaving this server

this was very pointless

lol

just clarify here

Brick, you can use a different channel, this is too spammy

@Brickiest Brick You can leave this server but you can't escape Marx

i will look more into leftist thought and if i happen to come across any factual and logical evidence i will change from capitalist to socialist

i swear i will

Capitalism and Marxism are two sides of the materialist dialectic tbh smdh

i goddamn swear

Its not that simple...

i have been looking for proof as to why socialism works

d i a l e t i c s

and wherever i look i cannot find it

Theres no single fact that will turn you to socialism

@Deleted User <== double gay

i have looked at many

Lol forgot I had this pic

believe me

@Deleted User I'd rather by double gay than a double retard

Brick

@Deleted User "Capitalism and Marxism are two sides of the materialist dialectic tbh smdh"
"Uh uh ooh god I'm going retardeded!"

Thats a meaningless thing to say

You don't actually know what "Materialism" means

((( @Deleted User )))

If i told you the same thing, you wouldnt care at all.

seriously Johann that doesn'

Materialism is when two adults love each other very much

@Deleted User Wew

i realize this

doesn't help

And i did also look at capitalism

And believed in it for so long

@(((RobotWizard)))#3986 I'm not on your side you fucking idiot lmfao

nike what made you turn away from capitalism?

I'm not defending you

But saying "i looked at the facts, you didn't", doesnt mean shit tbh

im not saying that necessarily

Socialism offers more direct solutions to the problems we face, like poverty, access to healthcare, high quality of education

Political freedom

Individual rights

Watch out guys I'm all material and n o s p i r i t

but, can't those all be attained in a capitalist system?

look @Brickiest Brick if you're gonna hang out here at least answer my question

and clarify

Maybe they can

wait im having a conversation with nike

im learning something

But, facts show that were moving the opposite way

@Deleted User "Materialism is when two adults love each other very much"
Fuck man you're an actual dead end. You have literally no political input or thought. You redefine "reationary"

@Deleted User is that the lord and saviour sam hyde

Socialism is whenever the government does something

Look at the increase in productivity compared to the increase in wages