This will not negatively impact anyone since those who are not in poverty will have more income potential.

The best part is, without federal government, you could keep the tax rates the same and make this happen very easily.

Abolishing all federal government while legislating a base income would fix every single problem globally.

The simple truth is...poverty is failure and the people are being failed by their government.

There will still be poverty though because not everyone will use that for the reason it was given to them. And new problems will be created so to assume every problem will be fixed isn't reasonable.

Removing government and allocating a base income is the solution.

Those few people who use that money unwisely obviously have mental health issues...you're talking about drug addicts.

They can and will be tended to.

I'm talking about the mass majority...we the people.

My plan ensures that the mass majority will never suffer again.

I agree that it can solve many problems we have but I don't have the same view of human nature. I think we will continue to screw ourselves over no matter the scenario, no matter how hard we try.

We have yet to give human nature a chance.

Is that not what ruled 10,000 years ago eventually leading us to today?

Sociologically...what's improved the past 10,000 years?

There is the problem.

We have never sociologically evolved due to government.

It is the sickness of humanity, maybe in several million years the next species will not have the the same disease

The sickness of humanity is government.

Yes I agree. It will be the death of us. I don't think it will stop rising up until we don't exist though

Then we the people have two options.

Abolish government and evolve...or allow the cancer that is government to grow and kill us.

The first isn't possible, while the second as i said above could lead to a new species figuring out what we can't.

What about that isn't possible?

It's literally written down in our declaration of independence and supported by law.

"when government becomes destructive to these ends, it the right of the people to abolish it".

Those who created our system of government knew that this would happen.

They wanted us to overthrow this corrupt, fraudulent insanity that willfully prevents us from evolving.

As long as government remains, we will not evolve.

That truth alone is what makes my plan self-evidently necessary and correct.

Yes, I know we can overthrow our own current government, but there will always be a new one who will have similar problems or entirely new ones. Humanity is governance. And governance prevents us from evolving. I don't know if there is a non-circular solution but with your proposal like you said maybe we won't be humanity with enough of it

Yes, humanity is governance...so what does that make government?

Inhumane.

We are our own problem

No, government is our problem.

We haven't been afforded the luxery of being our own problem for about 10,000 years.

I apologize I meant humanity IS government

Humanity is governance...government is inhumane.

Our humanity is what makes government wrong.

Government is inhumane.

Anything that unnaturally governs humanity is inhumane.

Even humans?

Humans are humane.

We are the source of humanity.

We govern ourselves, that process is sick but that is humanity

No we do not.

We are governed by something that the majorty do not approve or consent to.

That is oppression.

This oppression exists because of government.

Government exists because of collusion and corruption.

Collusion and corruption is what created societies.

Once society falls with government, civilization and humanity will exist for the first time in human history.

I don't think that will be the result.

If you want to remove wrong, end poverty.

Without poverty, no one will be desperate enough to commit crimes.

Your opinion may not support my plan, however, my plan is sound, reasonable, simple, effective, and revolutionary.

That is exactly what humanity needs...a revolutionary evolution.

That is how we evolve.

Much of your plan makes sense but we disagree on the result after it would enacted.

Not destroying government with the fact that the majority are impoverished is literal insanity.

What would the result be...in your opinion?

Is the fallout from government's failures so catastrophic that, by removing government, humans will be inhumane?

The result would be a mirror of the issues before the revolution, this is seen in all aspects of humanity throughout history where the net result is the same. After this discussion I feel government falls into a more murky water between human and inhumane. But humans fall into this same murky water as we both try to evolve and oppress our own under government.

Which revolution?

Your plan

My plan created a revolution?

In society it would

Oh I see. Well, when oppression is the problem that devolves us, revolution is required for an evolution to be enacted.

I don't see how government is anything else but murky.

Government is all of the murky aspects of the human species.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Then it's settled, government must fall.

Eh why not

To me, it's because there's no other way to evolve.

If we allow government to remain, the people will continue devolving.

As we've agreed on, government is everything that is murky with the human species.

We as humanity can try to revolutionize with your plan and others and attempt to evolve, without you're right we will devolve. Personally though I don't think humans have what it takes to stand the test of survival, but with plans like yours we can humanity a chance.

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Then it's time to give humanity a chance.

Alright, it's a plan.

I'm Kenya by the way, I've enjoyed the conversation

I'm Kelly, likewise.

How old are you, just wondering

26, you?

16 actually

Funny how intelligence seems to fade with age huh?

You won't find humans at around 40 talking like this.

No you don't. Do you think people stop caring?

No, I think they've abandoned hope.

They still care, which explains the mass depression.

Well that is super depressing, although it only makes me want to enjoy now even more.

With governemt in the picture, being an adult is awful.

...unless you're wealthy and/or work with the high offices of government.

Those are the people who don't care.

Ignorance truly is bliss.

Just imagine the damage arrogance has...

Which is ironic since the wealthy and the government fail the people every single day.

It goes back to the original issue.

Leadership is not established.

What makes up the leaders you talk about?

There are no leaders.