what?

how about

getting another job

well, not life-or-death power unless you have a serious monopoly

okay first of all, there are laws about income

yes, of course

second of all, there's competition in labor force and wages

labor force decide where to look for jobs

they'll want the best offers

especially the specialized

capitalism always has a certain amount of unemployment

to threaten workers with instant replacement

well unemployment is a record low in the US rn

4.4 percent

one of the lowest rates

yep

in the world

it can be a low rate

but it has to be there

we are about to obliterate unemployment

even milton friedman believed that

poverty and unemployment is going downhill hard

they may in the short term

but the market goes up and down and up and down

short term?

i'm talking about

30 years of progress

in unemployment and poverty

troughout the entire US history

both of these elements have been peaking down

and yet enough people are disillusioned and unemployed to vote for trump

the rust belt's namesake

You can't eliminate unemployement lol. Very low to zero unemployment is relatively unhealthy

what?

@EALootcrates Though you should note that a lot of them are part time or contract jobs under government management.

we're not gonna lie

it's funny because

at least 1.5 million private jobs

trump won because a lot of people in the south and midwest were scared for their careers

have been created under trump

the number of public jobs

have been peaking down since 2010

the percentage of public jobs

is now around 8 percent

on a 4.4 unemployment rate

it's negligable

meanwhile in multiple socialist states

you see unemployment rates above 10 percent

what socialist states?

@Deleted User I would argue otherwise, considering that he won based off of rural VS urban, it seems like he managed to convince the states he needed in order to win, and god blessed him with some luck.

how about

Hillary only won 50 counties.

http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/3141-trump-counties.png

venez

yugoslavia

cuba

soviet union

china

one second

@EALootcrates Cuba? China? Socialist states?

No fucking way.

>venez

🤔 not real socialism

"muhh but that's not real socialism"

when work is allocated for need and not for profit, there will be much less of it

yes it is

but that's like calling scandinavia socialism dude

it's a social democracy

70% of venezuela's economy is private

denmark is more socialist than venezuela

at first, venez was praised for it's redistribution and "striving socialism" but socialism decays the nation

denmark? socialism?

what a fucking joke

denmark is the worst example possible

for socialism

and its failures are not because of the socdem government

denmark is capitalist as fuck

but because of the saudis driving down the price of oil

let me just

pull out a better stat

with the express purpose of hurting oil-dependent states like venezuela

in this case Russia

@Deleted User When your economy is entirely dependant on the fluctuations of an ingredient, that is a massive fucking issue.

(not that I'd defend the russian federation)

If the price drops, then your economy is fucked.

Denmark has a bigger public sector and better welfare than Venezuela, therefore they're more socialist than them

socialism is not the government doing stuff

socialism is worker ownership of the means of production

the workers owning and democratically managing their workplaces

Why do these people think that jobs are literally the only aspect of the economy

venezuala's economy

is anti-marketist

state controlled

and socialist

pepes

@Deleted User Meh, not always is that defined as socialism, there are many variations, that would just be the generic idea, but a legitimate idea nonetheless.

here's a better stat than any one you could ever pull up

venezuala was praised as a socialist pradise

before they ran out

of other people's money