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2017-09-07 01:14:28 UTC

@Deleted User Breaking full stop. The Johannes I remember was well spoken and like to discuss political theory. The new Johannes is erratic and spends all his time on memes and idle chatter. Did you realise Fascism is a pipedream that will never be realised in your lifetime?

2017-09-07 01:14:42 UTC

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2017-09-07 01:14:54 UTC

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2017-09-07 01:15:44 UTC

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2017-09-07 01:15:52 UTC

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2017-09-07 01:16:38 UTC

@Deleted User
>Fascism
>Pipedream
>Taking a long time to implement makes it automatically bad

At least it isn't an autistic utopian system which the pious worshippers make concessions of and declare success of despite not being what they wanted.

2017-09-07 01:17:03 UTC

Also, LARPing on the internet is something I don't enjoy *every* day man

2017-09-07 01:17:15 UTC

>Stop being poor

2017-09-07 01:17:17 UTC

Great deflection.

2017-09-07 01:17:18 UTC

Give it a few days I might give autistic lines of text

2017-09-07 01:17:25 UTC

I look forward to it.

2017-09-07 01:17:37 UTC

I appreciate a good autistic rant.

2017-09-07 01:17:44 UTC

>the poor should
Google feud

2017-09-07 01:17:46 UTC

wtf

2017-09-07 01:18:17 UTC

But in the mean time, what will your grandchildren think when they call up your internet history in the future archive machine?

2017-09-07 01:18:24 UTC

Was he a good Fascist?

2017-09-07 01:18:43 UTC

Mussolini

2017-09-07 01:18:43 UTC

@Deleted User No idea my man no idea

2017-09-07 01:19:00 UTC

Not concerned about stuff like that at the moment

2017-09-07 01:19:09 UTC

You don't seem serious.

2017-09-07 01:19:17 UTC

>taking the web serious

2017-09-07 01:19:51 UTC

I mean, every moment is a wasted opportunity that could have been used to further the coming of the Forth Reich.

2017-09-07 01:19:52 UTC

Mussolini was like the Austro Hungarian Empire during WW1, doesn't listen to Germany, then comes back asking for help when they get into trouble.

2017-09-07 01:20:58 UTC

@Deleted User It's being worked on

2017-09-07 01:22:53 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-09-07 01:26:49 UTC

Do I have to burn trash cans to prove my movement is active

2017-09-07 01:27:06 UTC

Is Fascism inevitable or do you have to make it happen with your Will?

2017-09-07 01:27:20 UTC

It happens with will

2017-09-07 01:27:47 UTC

You are great at deflecting. I suggest you go easy on it. It is too large a window into your psychology.

2017-09-07 01:28:01 UTC

And luck, and throwing any sort of ethics out the window.

2017-09-07 01:29:07 UTC

@Chillin Chum Mason was right

2017-09-07 01:29:20 UTC

And that is what he contended

2017-09-07 01:29:52 UTC

I'm just curious where all the Will to Power Ubermensch are. It is a completely different mindset than Communism.

2017-09-07 01:29:57 UTC

@Deleted User What political 'ideal' did you say you aligned with again

2017-09-07 01:30:34 UTC

They're around, a lot of the dudes on the Discord I invited you are pretty active IRL it just depends on who you ask

2017-09-07 01:30:57 UTC

When you're a political adversary to any power-at-be it's unwise to advertise your willingness to act honestly

2017-09-07 01:31:13 UTC

Though I will tell you for me personally lately I've been working, shitposting, sleeping, repeat

2017-09-07 01:31:20 UTC

It's an unfortunate cycle

2017-09-07 01:31:54 UTC

A frank response. Thanks for the chat.

2017-09-07 01:32:14 UTC

I don't even know who mason is. I don't care either.

2017-09-07 01:32:41 UTC

Daily reminder Freud used his works to excuse his fetishes

2017-09-07 01:33:24 UTC

And your point being?

2017-09-07 01:33:57 UTC

Or is that a shitpost?

2017-09-07 01:34:00 UTC

I'm just BTFOing Freud

2017-09-07 01:34:04 UTC

:^)

2017-09-07 01:34:10 UTC

Shitpost then.

2017-09-07 01:34:27 UTC

I wish politics were taken more seriously.

2017-09-07 01:35:10 UTC

They aren't

2017-09-07 01:35:40 UTC

The state of society

2017-09-07 01:35:56 UTC

I'm sure late stage Romans also didn't give a flying fuck

2017-09-07 01:36:43 UTC

I feel like there's two types of not caring.

2017-09-07 01:36:56 UTC

Lemmings and defeatists?

2017-09-07 01:37:07 UTC

It is too much of a burden to take politics seriously. It is soul crushing work if you are a realistic thinker.

2017-09-07 01:37:19 UTC

^ this

2017-09-07 01:37:38 UTC

You also become vehemently anti-utopian when you ponder politics and philosophy too much

2017-09-07 01:37:38 UTC

But burden or not. It should be tried anyway.

2017-09-07 01:38:04 UTC

That's fine, I hear about utopia and dystopia being too similar these days.

2017-09-07 01:38:40 UTC

I take it seriously in small bursts where my mental health and work load allow for it. But the conclusions are always "you have to do more", which can not be achieved in the short term.

2017-09-07 01:38:47 UTC

Utopia must be averted to prevent distraction and disappointment, dystopia must be averted for obvious reasons

2017-09-07 01:39:22 UTC

Perfection is a lofty, desirable ideal, but it requires a worse thing then letting things be chaotic at times.

2017-09-07 01:39:33 UTC

Imperfection isn't valued nearly enough.

2017-09-07 01:39:45 UTC

It is almost a waste to even try. You have to be a professional theorists or a footsoldier, there's not much in between.

2017-09-07 01:39:56 UTC

@Chillin Chum Hence why Marxist utopias are always failures as far as I've observed

2017-09-07 01:40:10 UTC

Communism requires absolute accuracy

2017-09-07 01:40:21 UTC

But no single communist ideal has matched up to it

2017-09-07 01:40:41 UTC

And has instead become a different system with a LARP feel to it like the USSR or China or Cambodia or Korea

2017-09-07 01:40:52 UTC

North Korea's a damn dynastic monarchy!

2017-09-07 01:40:55 UTC

Communism has never been achieved. And Marxism is not utopian. It is based on historical precedent and predicting social trends into the future.

2017-09-07 01:41:31 UTC

@Deleted User The future revolutionary results are about as unpredictable as the weather a year from now

2017-09-07 01:41:37 UTC

Sure we may know how hot it'll get

2017-09-07 01:41:44 UTC

It's probable.

2017-09-07 01:41:45 UTC

But we can't predict the storms

2017-09-07 01:42:08 UTC

So we know the follies of marxism and fundamentalism. So, how about thinking beyond left and right?

2017-09-07 01:42:40 UTC

And Marxist communism is like a man waving a damn carrot on a stick to lead swine

2017-09-07 01:42:45 UTC

I personally do not have enough political contacts to determine how realistic Marx's predictions are. But they are what they are. Also, there are different kinds of Communists, like Anarchists, which have different theories.

2017-09-07 01:43:11 UTC

@Chillin Chum My Weltanschauung transcends muh left right trend

2017-09-07 01:43:26 UTC

Ideal alone is too disappointing

2017-09-07 01:43:31 UTC

We need to go full Zeno

2017-09-07 01:43:31 UTC

Is that some attempt at mockery?

2017-09-07 01:43:49 UTC

@Chillin Chum Mocking the left-right trend

2017-09-07 01:43:50 UTC

What is 'full Zeno'?

2017-09-07 01:44:14 UTC

@Deleted User At this point I consider Marxism/communistic Marxism a religion really

2017-09-07 01:44:21 UTC

Ok. How about more guinuine thought, less satire then?

2017-09-07 01:44:25 UTC

It's gotten that bad

2017-09-07 01:44:44 UTC

@Deleted User It certainly does have an element of Messianic themes.

2017-09-07 01:44:50 UTC

@Deleted User Zeno, the ancient philosopher who attempted to overthrow a city state's despot

2017-09-07 01:45:00 UTC

He bit off his own tongue in protest of his capture

2017-09-07 01:45:05 UTC

He mentored Aristotle

2017-09-07 01:47:01 UTC

Oh, he's the guy who invented that Arrow's Paradox.

2017-09-07 01:47:10 UTC

Yes

2017-09-07 01:47:36 UTC

IMO we need to adopt some kind of Asimovian shit like in Foundation

2017-09-07 01:47:50 UTC

Just have a league of scientists work on figuring out where society is going and how to mitigate damage *from a distant planet

2017-09-07 01:47:54 UTC

Interesting footnote in history, to be sure. Hellenic philosophy in general is core to the formation of Western civilisation.

2017-09-07 01:48:17 UTC

You're right about needing a thinktank.

2017-09-07 01:48:59 UTC

Figuring out were society goes isn't going to lead to some positive change.

2017-09-07 01:49:22 UTC

I'd much rather see whatever future we wanted to be aimed for.

2017-09-07 01:49:50 UTC

@Chillin Chum What we want isn't always what we get

2017-09-07 01:49:59 UTC

But this has also been tired. And detractors say that too much theory neglects actions. Various insurrectionists arise in response to over-theorizing in political sphere. It's a balancing act between the two, satisfying both needs, theory and action.

2017-09-07 01:51:12 UTC

@Deleted User assuming I'm naive of that, makes you look naive to me.

2017-09-07 01:51:39 UTC

Guys, this isn't a pissing contest.

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