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@Deleted User Breaking full stop. The Johannes I remember was well spoken and like to discuss political theory. The new Johannes is erratic and spends all his time on memes and idle chatter. Did you realise Fascism is a pipedream that will never be realised in your lifetime?
@Deleted User
>Fascism
>Pipedream
>Taking a long time to implement makes it automatically bad
At least it isn't an autistic utopian system which the pious worshippers make concessions of and declare success of despite not being what they wanted.
Also, LARPing on the internet is something I don't enjoy *every* day man
>Stop being poor
Great deflection.
Give it a few days I might give autistic lines of text
I look forward to it.
I appreciate a good autistic rant.
>the poor should
Google feud
wtf
But in the mean time, what will your grandchildren think when they call up your internet history in the future archive machine?
Was he a good Fascist?
Mussolini
@Deleted User No idea my man no idea
Not concerned about stuff like that at the moment
You don't seem serious.
>taking the web serious
I mean, every moment is a wasted opportunity that could have been used to further the coming of the Forth Reich.
Mussolini was like the Austro Hungarian Empire during WW1, doesn't listen to Germany, then comes back asking for help when they get into trouble.
@Deleted User It's being worked on
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Do I have to burn trash cans to prove my movement is active
Is Fascism inevitable or do you have to make it happen with your Will?
It happens with will
You are great at deflecting. I suggest you go easy on it. It is too large a window into your psychology.
And luck, and throwing any sort of ethics out the window.
@Chillin Chum Mason was right
And that is what he contended
I'm just curious where all the Will to Power Ubermensch are. It is a completely different mindset than Communism.
@Deleted User What political 'ideal' did you say you aligned with again
They're around, a lot of the dudes on the Discord I invited you are pretty active IRL it just depends on who you ask
When you're a political adversary to any power-at-be it's unwise to advertise your willingness to act honestly
Though I will tell you for me personally lately I've been working, shitposting, sleeping, repeat
It's an unfortunate cycle
A frank response. Thanks for the chat.
I don't even know who mason is. I don't care either.
Daily reminder Freud used his works to excuse his fetishes
And your point being?
Or is that a shitpost?
I'm just BTFOing Freud
:^)
Shitpost then.
I wish politics were taken more seriously.
They aren't
The state of society
I'm sure late stage Romans also didn't give a flying fuck
I feel like there's two types of not caring.
Lemmings and defeatists?
It is too much of a burden to take politics seriously. It is soul crushing work if you are a realistic thinker.
^ this
You also become vehemently anti-utopian when you ponder politics and philosophy too much
But burden or not. It should be tried anyway.
That's fine, I hear about utopia and dystopia being too similar these days.
I take it seriously in small bursts where my mental health and work load allow for it. But the conclusions are always "you have to do more", which can not be achieved in the short term.
Utopia must be averted to prevent distraction and disappointment, dystopia must be averted for obvious reasons
Perfection is a lofty, desirable ideal, but it requires a worse thing then letting things be chaotic at times.
Imperfection isn't valued nearly enough.
It is almost a waste to even try. You have to be a professional theorists or a footsoldier, there's not much in between.
@Chillin Chum Hence why Marxist utopias are always failures as far as I've observed
Communism requires absolute accuracy
But no single communist ideal has matched up to it
And has instead become a different system with a LARP feel to it like the USSR or China or Cambodia or Korea
North Korea's a damn dynastic monarchy!
Communism has never been achieved. And Marxism is not utopian. It is based on historical precedent and predicting social trends into the future.
@Deleted User The future revolutionary results are about as unpredictable as the weather a year from now
Sure we may know how hot it'll get
It's probable.
But we can't predict the storms
So we know the follies of marxism and fundamentalism. So, how about thinking beyond left and right?
And Marxist communism is like a man waving a damn carrot on a stick to lead swine
I personally do not have enough political contacts to determine how realistic Marx's predictions are. But they are what they are. Also, there are different kinds of Communists, like Anarchists, which have different theories.
@Chillin Chum My Weltanschauung transcends muh left right trend
Ideal alone is too disappointing
We need to go full Zeno
Is that some attempt at mockery?
@Chillin Chum Mocking the left-right trend
What is 'full Zeno'?
@Deleted User At this point I consider Marxism/communistic Marxism a religion really
Ok. How about more guinuine thought, less satire then?
It's gotten that bad
@Deleted User It certainly does have an element of Messianic themes.
@Deleted User Zeno, the ancient philosopher who attempted to overthrow a city state's despot
He bit off his own tongue in protest of his capture
He mentored Aristotle
Oh, he's the guy who invented that Arrow's Paradox.
Yes
IMO we need to adopt some kind of Asimovian shit like in Foundation
Just have a league of scientists work on figuring out where society is going and how to mitigate damage *from a distant planet
Interesting footnote in history, to be sure. Hellenic philosophy in general is core to the formation of Western civilisation.
You're right about needing a thinktank.
Figuring out were society goes isn't going to lead to some positive change.
I'd much rather see whatever future we wanted to be aimed for.
@Chillin Chum What we want isn't always what we get
But this has also been tired. And detractors say that too much theory neglects actions. Various insurrectionists arise in response to over-theorizing in political sphere. It's a balancing act between the two, satisfying both needs, theory and action.
@Deleted User assuming I'm naive of that, makes you look naive to me.
Guys, this isn't a pissing contest.
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