#international

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:35:26 UTC

slaveshops?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:35:32 UTC

They're not forced to work there

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:35:42 UTC

How else would they earn money to eat?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:35:46 UTC

people flee the fuck out of china to get to hong kong

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:35:52 UTC

...Okay?

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:35:58 UTC

That kind of proves what im saying

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:35:59 UTC

If it's so bad people would just move, right?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:02 UTC

Not really

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:36:12 UTC

Do.. do you think China is.. communist or something

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:36:14 UTC

@Deleted User seriously though you're unironically brainwashed.
https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:16 UTC

People flee to free markets

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:26 UTC

No but if it's bad people would flee it

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:28 UTC

They don't

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:36:30 UTC

Like Somalia?

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:36:36 UTC

@Deleted User https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:43 UTC

You implying Somalia is free?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:46 UTC

Stop spamming nigger

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:36:54 UTC

Somalia has incredibly free markets

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:57 UTC

lmao no

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:36:59 UTC

Wrong

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:37:15 UTC

You have to deal with rebels and the government putting limitations on you

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:37:21 UTC

Not protecting your property as well

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:37:23 UTC

This gulagfag needs to watch the video.

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:37:53 UTC

Use an actual free market like Hong Kong or Singapore to make a point about free market

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:38:26 UTC

Singapore has slaveshops so I guess they are good examples of a free market

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:38:34 UTC

They're not slaves

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:38:45 UTC

Children earn 1 dollar a day

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:38:51 UTC

So?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:38:55 UTC

Are they worth more?

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:38:57 UTC

Kill yourself

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:39:00 UTC

good one

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:39:03 UTC

Anarchist loser

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:39:28 UTC

They produce value equivolent to about 30 dollars but because the market is highly dergulated they are paid pittense compared to that

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:39:28 UTC

@Deleted User for you, my beautiful little brainwashed communigger

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:39:48 UTC

right, but the owner can easily replace people, hence they're worth less for their work

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:39:51 UTC

Same in China, this is why your precious Iphones are so cheap.

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:40:06 UTC

Value is not decided by the employer. It is decided by value produced.

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:40:14 UTC

nope

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:40:20 UTC

What's the value of a piece of bread?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:40:25 UTC

Depends on the circumstances

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:40:36 UTC

In the west it's less than a dollar

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:40:43 UTC

The value is decided by the socially necessary labor time it takes to create it.

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:40:47 UTC

@Deleted User fucking goblin just read this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/308950154222895104/354213873370267650/IMG_20170901_185224.jpg

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:40:49 UTC

Wrong

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:40:56 UTC

Why are diamonds so expensive?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:41:02 UTC

They're cheap as dirt to make

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:41:21 UTC

We're talking about value not prices you fucknugget

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:41:40 UTC

somethings value determines the price you dummy

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:41:45 UTC

@Deleted User are you going to read it or not, jizzknuckles?

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:41:53 UTC

Only loosely.

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:42:04 UTC

Right, but the actual product does not

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:42:12 UTC

It all depends on what the people value

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:42:22 UTC

Great products can sell nothing

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:42:25 UTC

We are talking about market value, not subjective personal value

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:42:29 UTC

Same thing

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:42:34 UTC

Are you mental?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:42:36 UTC

Market is made of people

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:42:47 UTC

@Deleted User
>are you mental
>being this ironic

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:42:54 UTC

<:FeelsNeatMan:313362671065890817>

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:43:17 UTC

So because I value a cigar to be 1 dollar does that make it one dollar?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:43:26 UTC

If enough people do yes

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:43:44 UTC

Why tvs are getting cheaper

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:43:53 UTC

Because they are easier to produce

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:44:03 UTC

Because more people want it

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:44:11 UTC

Are you saying that people value TVs less therefore its cheaper?

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:44:14 UTC

You just contradicted yourself

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:44:15 UTC

This is rediculous. Personally I do not believe in property.

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:44:15 UTC

yes

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:44:40 UTC

They value tvs more

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:44:46 UTC

Not sure where you got less from

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:44:52 UTC

So wouldnt the price go up by your logic?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:45:11 UTC

Why would it?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:45:18 UTC

People compete and that keeps the price low

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:45:22 UTC

Because they value it more.... This is your logic not mine

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:45:32 UTC

I thought subjective value decided the price?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:45:37 UTC

In a free market the price would fall

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:45:43 UTC

It does

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:45:51 UTC

So why does competition make a difference?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:46:06 UTC

because in a monopoly the value goes up the more people want it

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:46:24 UTC

But I thought personal value decided the price?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:46:29 UTC

If there is competition for something the price will fall or the quality will go up

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:46:48 UTC

So prices are not defined by personal value?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:46:49 UTC

You're trying to dumb down my arguments

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:46:56 UTC

Depends on the system dummy

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:46:58 UTC

No. Im pointing out the inconsistency

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:47:05 UTC

Well you're doing a shit job

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:47:29 UTC

You said personal value decides prices and then you said competition would lower the price which contradicts the previous statement

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:47:30 UTC

Try again

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:47:37 UTC

A price is always defined by personal value, whether that goes up or down depends on the system

Subhuman✓ᵂᵒᵏᵉ

2017-09-04 10:47:44 UTC

@Deleted User how old are you?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:47:56 UTC

Young enough to be an anarchist

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:48:37 UTC

@Timo))) *whether that goes up or down depends on the system*

So where does personal value come into play here?

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:48:49 UTC

It always does in a free market

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:48:55 UTC

How

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:48:59 UTC

You just said competition would lower the price

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:49:05 UTC

Supply and demand, literally economics 101

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:49:18 UTC

Competition does lower the price

Timo)))

2017-09-04 10:49:22 UTC

What's your point?

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:49:23 UTC

Stop running away form this obvious fuck up that you made

Deleted User

2017-09-04 10:49:31 UTC

So then personal value doesnt decide price?

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