@Firefly My concern is that transhumanism is a promise of not having to struggle. It's allure is hedonistic and hence corrosive to improving the quality of humanity. Full automation fits thie category and is not insurrance and future collapse, infact represents a false sense of security if taken too far or too blindly.

Also when people make changes to their variosu bio fields or move their phone, I record that. Have a few ideas on how to use it

@Deleted User , there won’t be less work. The work will be shifted to other fields. Just like nowadays only few people in the Western world work on farms when it had been pretty much everyone a few centuries back.

Thee will always be work, and the majority of humans wants to work, wants to feel useful to society.

@Deleted User I'm more pro-objective than pro-subjective. Subjectivity of the humanity has to develop into objectivity. At some point humanity will no longer exist.

I disagree. We'll grant at least one planet to the tribal races where they'll commune with jenkem until the heat death of the universe

Those are good responses. Thanks. I guess I am projecting my own experience as a domesticated human not coerced into labour, I hence only engage in leisure which is not objectively goal orientated.

>only engage in leisure
Is that why you're for socialism? Bit selfish isn't it

rofl3x@transhumanism

transhumansts come in two types, the liars, and the losers.

the liars want you to believe that any of this shit is possible or rational and know that it is not

the losers can't be bothered to do their due dilligence

@checkers Honestly, part of the appeal is the idea of a dictatorship of the proletariat, a coercive collective function of discipline to give some measurable objective purpose in life

LMFAO

>dictatorship of the proletariat

my fucking sides

the proletariat is not equipped to hold such power else they would not be mere proles

@Deleted User Our ideas come from the objective necessity in material basis. Without any purpose.

My objective is to smash ideologies and establishment, the world would be much improved if we just shot everyone with a blue checkmark at least once every third generation

@Firefly I'm sorry, can you clarify what is meant by objective necessity?

@Deleted User something that is happening without our will.

The way forward is developing 3d printing and riling up people against ruling sects like leftism. perpetual low intensity civil war would make for a healthier society

By itself

so who's retarded idea was it to post the discord invite on /pol/ and then be typical low energy leftists

which, btw is what LEL stands for.

Without it we always fall into these trances where everyone in power thinks the ruling ideology is pure truth and the way it's always been. It's disaster

@OF-8 You are not a very interesting guy to converse with, sorry. Even chechers is better

We're seeing the beginnings of some major shit that will be griped about in history books. Indoctrinating 3 year olds into gender ideology until they become confused and say the wrong word and then get Dr. Money'd

@checkers if you don't see Soros trying to discredit Left you are fool.

>low energy

>>> r/t_d

@Firefly That's such a handwaver, you know as well as I do 99% of the left is all in on this shit

Hahahaha @iron

Got banned from T_D the other day

@checkers Put your nose out of your American leftiest abominational left. There is a big world around you.

Made some thread about breeding the Based Black men with trumpettes to prove to the left they aren't racist. 40 replies iirc

@Firefly You mean philosophically, that free will doesn't really exists and we are merely operating under our biological functions?

>trannypede

literally any place on the internet is better than t_d

Trannypede had me laughing so much, fucking hell

I made a thread about it and goaded the T_Ds into doubling down on it and talking SJW shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskThe_Donald/comments/69otkn/many_rthe_donald_users_describe_themselves_as/

read that, it's hilarious

@Deleted User Free will is dialectical. Subject is both a subject and an object at the same time. Even the subject in authority is ultimately an object.

lololol

whats the difference between them and neoliberals anyway

my god we've got some velocity here, im gonna drink some capitalist beer and watch the ingrate show

Nothing since Trump 180'd and they accepted it

no principles

what the fuck

>red pills

they adopted all the /pol/ memes without understanding their meaning and context

It happens to all mems and they die

KEK! SHADILAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's what reddit does

We have the best trannypedes, don't we folx?

thats how it uperates....RTD is implanted cancer

basically you take the cancer from 4chan and put it on reddit, you get RTD

now reddit has a new type of cance

Yeah. it's fun instigating them against eachother though

I remember in summer 2015 when r/t_d was a /pol/ colony there'd be threads about jews and race on the frontpage

I read reddit required them to remove a certain cis_white_male moderator or something? To avoid a ban?

yeah

brb

@Deleted User You said 'with or without our will'. Does this mean to also recognise Will as dialectical and ultimately coming from the subject who is ultimately an object? Is purpose also to be understoof in this specific way - that focus on the subjective/non-material is erroneous or misleading?

*sniffs*

Shit, that was for @Firefly

>Does this mean to also recognise Will as dialectical and ultimately coming from the subject who is ultimately an object?

Yes will is also dialectical. Everything is

From within the dialectic, everything is dialectical, but goddamnit you people sound retarded.

from outside...

the non-dialectical position is basically 😂

the spiciest of memes

@Deleted User Proriv Marxist magazine is focusing on the subjective because of the lack of the subjective forces atm in the left.

@Firefly But within the framework of dialectical. I think I get it.

Yes

Also framework of dialectical is the whole universe.

only from within the dialectic

from outside its a tiny bubble

millions of people stuffed firmly up their own ass, tovarish

what a sight!

@Firefly This may be a redundant question, but within this dialectical framework, how do you determine what to pursue? Is Marxist more just a call to remove delusion around the dialectical universe?

@Deleted User To remove the delusion is the very first thing. Marx argued that as an active human substance we are, we also not only to remove the delusion but also change the world around us. It has practical meaning.

We do it out of necessity

@Firefly Yes, that is what I wanted to imply

@Firefly So then Marxism is about emancipation according to materialist principals and not any specific ends; class consciousness is a means to an ends?

@Deleted User Class consciousness is a tool.

Class is to form by us and to degrade by itself.

Thanks for your concise answers.

@Deleted User You are always welcome here.

There is also objective class and subjective class consciousness. Two different things.

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

Wuss poppin yall

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

@BofaFett We have right-wing infestation. But they are not as bad today as usual.

Alright who said that Hitler did nothing wrong?

@checkers this guy