Monarchism was alright

Revolutions have hardly ever resulted in Good Things

But its no longer viable in the modern world

Monarchism *was* alright, for its time.

List me One Revolution that was good for that country..

It just overstayed its welcome.

>Better to live under a bad monarch than Engage in a Revolution and Regicide
All revolutions are not the fault of the revolutionaries.

History of man is pretty much Monarchies with Democratic Experiments at times

Every revolution is the fault of the guy in charge.

Those revolutions just didn't magically come out of nowhere

If you let the people grow so discontent with you that they want to chop your head off, it's not the fault of the people.

Is there ever a time where a Leader is universally praised?

"The People"

There are times where a leader is universally hated.

I doubt that

Nikolai II got what was coming for him for decades.

the Most Hated leader and Political Insult in our time is Adolf Hitler

Literally nobody was for him.

Nick didn't deserve what he got, but yeah he was pretty incompetent

He was a good person, but an absolutely terrible and incompetent ruler.

And did the Revolution work out? " The People" aren't these agents without any agency..

are they?

What kind of self-fellating broad strokes armchair history discussion is this

you are welcome to set the course straight oh wise one @εïз irma εïз

"Did the Revolution work out" is another question.

no

it isn't

😂

Literally is. It happened *because* the government failed.

Tell me one time when a Revolution has been better than what was before?

USSR.

The fact that he had relatively widespread support except from social democrats and far leftists until the war completely broke apart the military due to its completely outdated and quasi-Napoleonic structure.

The French Revolution.

Which allowed the country to break up, accelerated by Rasputin which was seen as a national disgrace.

But often exaggerated.

If you think the Communist Revolution in Russia and the French Revolution made things better....

then i have nothing more to say.

@εïз irma εïз I would pinpoint Nikolai putting St. Stolypin away from power as the leading reason behind the acceleration.

Agrarian reforms and the longlasting effects of the freeing of serfs with minor steps towards industrialization helped feed civil disorder.

@AdorableStormtrooper ok lol

>USSR was better off post revolution
u mean with all the mass starvations?

#StolypinGang

And it was all at the right time for WWI to create a power vacuum.

So yeah this Nicholas II was universally reviled and totally incompetent mess is gay. You're welcome for setting it straight @AdorableStormtrooper

I mean, even the White Army didn't bother rehabilitating him.

French Revolution pretty much set France on the path of Self Abolition.. contemporary France is what the proponents have to show for it.

That tells you something.

The army wasn't being paid.

Nothing to do with his leadership.

@Bird Wizard That of course accounts for the USSR post-turmoil, thaw period.

I have no desire to defend Stalin's USSR.

Russia is just a traditionalist country. The war was already being lost badly from the start, it would have crumbled with or without his later micromanagement.

USSR literally legalized abortion, liberalized divorce laws, integrated women in the labor force and created the Gulag System right away as it came to power.

These were evil people.

....really dude.

Stalin was one of the better ones..

I am at a loss for words.

reversed many of these laws..

purged the hook noses

If you say these things as something other than trolling, I don't think I really need to say anything else.

While Communist Poland was discussing how to enhance Female Orgasm, Stalinist Russia atleast pretended to want to keep the Family Structure intact.

wow this is just
wow
so problematic
i cannot believe something believes things different than i do
just like
wow
literally omg

😭 😭 😭

imagine letting the immoral doctors murder babies and not only that allowing a woman to no fault divorce you and on top of that putting them to work in poisonous factories

All Marxists are disgusting individuals.

Ok this is based and redpilled.

Jews r bad rt

Free Kekistan

USSR was probably the first Feminist Government too.. taught little boys how women were their *equal comrades*.. created the situation where women didn't need men or a family to sustain themselves financially which would have in the long term resulted in the completely disintegration of the family

as many Communists at the time predicted and Celebrated.

Yeah that's horrifying

and we know they're right because that is what has happened in the Western Welfare States

someone once told me that kingdom of yugoslavia was shit because of the coathanger abortions

Imagine being a degenerate traditionalist and being attached to past material conditions instead of supporting personal striving of every individual and not thinking this is in conflict with the family model.

Trads are so fucking stupid.

muh family unit break down when u can work for urself

Imagine thinking there is a middle ground between aborting every baby and beating your wife to death if she has 1% Jewish blood.

Imagine that ridiculous notion.

how's that working out in Black America? @εïз irma εïз

They're black.

turns out things, wealth and objects isn't the only thing people and society at Large need

there are other more Spiritual and Abstract things you need to sustain a society..

>assuming the Christian monarchist is a materialist

Ok retard

Imagine not imagining outlandish hypotheticals

I mention material conditions thus I must be a materialist. As if the material world is permanent.

<:lol:521377935672737792>

>monarchist
Ok retard

I'm actually shocked at the average traditionalist.

Guarantee 99% of them are porn addicted incels.

That sounds pretty accurate.

Unlike John.

😏

Based esoteric trad waifu

Well hes like a sane level of traditionalism I'd say the others are the esoterists

Edgy teenage traditionalism where it's just an oulet for sexual frustration is not the same as spiritual traditionalism in the vein of Plato et. al.

I do not call myself a traditionalist because I don't like being associated with people like @AdorableStormtrooper

No offense retard

They get sexually arroused by withholding sex from themselves.

just more maligning