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2018-12-15 08:26:08 UTC

he will just point this out

2018-12-15 08:26:08 UTC

Yet, let us never become complacent and pretend that it is acceptable to sin because we have faith

2018-12-15 08:26:35 UTC

youre forgetting about god's grace

2018-12-15 08:26:38 UTC

grace has defeaten sin

2018-12-15 08:26:42 UTC

No I'm not!

2018-12-15 08:26:45 UTC

sin no longer applies

2018-12-15 08:26:58 UTC

grace actually made the true distinction

2018-12-15 08:27:00 UTC

for mankind

2018-12-15 08:27:03 UTC

of good and evil

2018-12-15 08:27:08 UTC

Is it acceptable to cheat on your wife

2018-12-15 08:27:14 UTC

Is this sin?

2018-12-15 08:27:15 UTC

no it is not

2018-12-15 08:27:21 UTC

if you do it deliberately yes

2018-12-15 08:27:31 UTC

Then how dare you say "sin no longer applies'

2018-12-15 08:27:32 UTC

you cant do it by accident

2018-12-15 08:27:50 UTC

because only evil people do that?

2018-12-15 08:27:57 UTC

i would never cheat on my wife

2018-12-15 08:28:05 UTC

nor do i think thats normal by any means

2018-12-15 08:28:15 UTC

i wouldnt cheat on my girlfriend either

2018-12-15 08:28:17 UTC

Yes, and therefore Christians must hear "if you do that, you are evil"

2018-12-15 08:28:32 UTC

There must be no misunderstanding

2018-12-15 08:28:51 UTC

And I believe you are creating misunderstanding

2018-12-15 08:29:18 UTC

by faith through grace

2018-12-15 08:29:28 UTC

to have sex before marriage is sin

2018-12-15 08:29:32 UTC

but by grace you are saved

2018-12-15 08:29:40 UTC

How dare you

2018-12-15 08:29:50 UTC

judge not

2018-12-15 08:29:57 UTC

Why would you be saved?

2018-12-15 08:29:57 UTC

if you judge you will be judged yourself

2018-12-15 08:30:17 UTC

because grace does away with sin

2018-12-15 08:30:37 UTC

This theology is truly disgusting

2018-12-15 08:30:52 UTC

did you have sex before marriage?

2018-12-15 08:30:52 UTC

This very logic would also absolve any other sin

2018-12-15 08:31:09 UTC

It would absolve cheating on a spouse as well

2018-12-15 08:31:14 UTC

you could say, deliberate sin is the only sin that currently counts

2018-12-15 08:31:24 UTC

"but by grace you are saved"

2018-12-15 08:31:32 UTC

Just stick that after adultery

2018-12-15 08:31:35 UTC

Disgusting

2018-12-15 08:31:41 UTC

adultery is deliberate

2018-12-15 08:31:54 UTC

And sex before marriage isn't?

2018-12-15 08:31:59 UTC

but if im a young lad, i just come across a girl i like, she likes me and things happen

2018-12-15 08:32:00 UTC

Give me a break

2018-12-15 08:32:13 UTC

then thats not sin

2018-12-15 08:32:17 UTC

love covers alot of sin says the bible

2018-12-15 08:32:32 UTC

This theology is bankrupt

2018-12-15 08:32:55 UTC

Galatians 5:4

2018-12-15 08:32:56 UTC

New International Version
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

2018-12-15 08:33:01 UTC

What is right is right, what is wrong is wrong

2018-12-15 08:33:21 UTC

If sex before marriage is wrong, which you claim, then it is wrong. Period.

2018-12-15 08:33:32 UTC

i never said it is wrong

2018-12-15 08:33:48 UTC

Oh so it's not wrong now.

2018-12-15 08:34:12 UTC

You're a liar.

2018-12-15 08:34:14 UTC

the law states that it is sinful yet in this case it is accounted for by grace if it is done lovingly

2018-12-15 08:34:16 UTC

"to have sex before marriage is sin"

2018-12-15 08:34:22 UTC

Bullshit

2018-12-15 08:34:36 UTC

If it's done lovingly

2018-12-15 08:34:44 UTC

You should be ashamed of yourself

2018-12-15 08:34:55 UTC

dude.

2018-12-15 08:35:13 UTC

How can you sin against God with love

2018-12-15 08:35:24 UTC

no, it is not sinful

2018-12-15 08:35:30 UTC

if it is done by love

2018-12-15 08:35:48 UTC

Can you sin in love

2018-12-15 08:35:52 UTC

1 Peter 4:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

2018-12-15 08:36:04 UTC

Can you cheat on your wife "in love"?

2018-12-15 08:36:21 UTC

no, unless you're mentally confused, or just wicked.

2018-12-15 08:36:36 UTC

Why not?

2018-12-15 08:36:41 UTC

would you ever tell your wife ''i cheated on you because i love you!''

2018-12-15 08:36:42 UTC

ofcourse not

2018-12-15 08:37:09 UTC

Yet you'd tell God you sinned but it's okay because you did it in love

2018-12-15 08:37:30 UTC

I think Jesus in his teachings was very specific on adultery

2018-12-15 08:37:41 UTC

so adultery is a special subject

2018-12-15 08:38:04 UTC

So if Jesus didn't say it specifically its ok

2018-12-15 08:38:15 UTC

you'll reap the consequences of your work, if you cheat on your wife and she leaves you and you lose your home and job, thats on you

2018-12-15 08:38:31 UTC

Great more bad theology

2018-12-15 08:38:39 UTC

and a wife can divorce her husband if he cheats says the bible

2018-12-15 08:38:52 UTC

i dont see what i've said is bad but okay

2018-12-15 08:39:03 UTC

People don't always get what they deserve

2018-12-15 08:39:11 UTC

and a wife can divorce her husband if he cheats says the bible

2018-12-15 08:39:12 UTC

and a wife can divorce her husband if he cheats says the bible

2018-12-15 08:39:22 UTC

Ok, so?

2018-12-15 08:39:45 UTC

so the man gets what he deserves by his wife leaving him

2018-12-15 08:40:00 UTC

Just forget it

2018-12-15 08:40:18 UTC

im unsure how you dont understand this obvious reasoning

2018-12-15 08:40:24 UTC

Honestly this exchange reminds me of all the reasons I left my old church

2018-12-15 08:40:36 UTC

I didn't grow up Catholic

2018-12-15 08:40:48 UTC

youre saying that if a man cheats on his wife he should be smithen by god immediately?

2018-12-15 08:41:00 UTC

I grew up Protestant, in a church filled with hippie freaks who had ridiculous ideas

2018-12-15 08:41:50 UTC

This sort of disgusting theology was so blatantly appalling to me that I wanted nothing to do with it

2018-12-15 08:41:57 UTC

Snakeisninjavandaag om 09:39
People don't always get what they deserve

2018-12-15 08:42:13 UTC

god will take revenge the bible says

2018-12-15 08:42:23 UTC

theology wont save you

2018-12-15 08:42:29 UTC

Read the Book of Job

2018-12-15 08:42:31 UTC

only faith in christ, or loving one another

2018-12-15 08:42:47 UTC

Hahahahahaha "or loving one another"?

2018-12-15 08:43:01 UTC

So even faith in Christ isn't nessesary

2018-12-15 08:43:03 UTC

by sticking to the text, following it as much as possible letter by letter, is a sign of small faith, or even no faith at all

2018-12-15 08:43:12 UTC

there's 2 ways for salvation

2018-12-15 08:43:29 UTC

if one loves one another he furfills the law, therefore no transgression can be held against him at judgement

2018-12-15 08:43:30 UTC

Your words are not a sign of small faith. They're a sign of ignorance

2018-12-15 08:43:41 UTC

if one believes in christ he has an advocate

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