Automatic literally in the name

For padding on the backside, there is that spray foam stuff that comes in a can. I think it's called Kwik Foam. It expands pretty good once its sprayed on. Anyone tried that?

That stuff is to hard

You would be better off gluing fome to the back then putting some fabric over it

Or in the mid evil times they used thick lether

Helmet liner pads??

There should be a coordinated shield beating chant that we do to intimidate the enemy

@SpencerReesh https://youtu.be/0NuTaQsMNaE

Buy a roll of camp mat at Wall mart for $8

Cut it out and use spray adhesive or dap contact cement

Voila

@Stannisthemannis

I decided against it, but for offensive use of a shield it would be hard to beat one of these on each arm! #overkill

https://www.amazon.com/Shindn-Enhanced-Aluminum-Protection-Tactical/dp/B01N8R4XBJ

I like it! Like a buckler

THIS just premiered at SHOT show 2017, and will definitely be the ticket for Cville 3.0.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ANDwX0zLj0

@PureDureSure only if you what to get it grabbed and your ass whooped do to the hood controlling you by the shield

That thing is mall ninja junk

@HueTheHand

If you think that thing is for hand-to-hand, you're sorely mistaken. You mount the rifle for a reason: the standoff distance.

If your watch the promo videos they are trying to promote it as being used for CQB

Mobility is life that thing is death

There is a resin why in Iraq we stoped using full interceptor baddy armor and switched to plate carriers

I'd rather go prone behind cover tbh

But I'll get behind you if you want to carry it ;)

Clearly it's going to be used for breaching/assaults, and in teams. There is a difference between CQB and H2H. If someone gets close enough to you to grab it/you before you've put them down with gunfire, you're already in more trouble than you should be, shield or not.

In situations where law enforcement will have a need for such tactics and equipment, they typically have a great deal more prep time and intel than soldiers are ever afforded. It's for set-piece assaults, not fluid warfare.

@PureDureSure you have never seen combat have you ...

It it is consensus in the LEO and Protection industry that that product is junk and will get people killed

Just like the side armor and arm armor the US MC tried using in Iraq but it got more people hurt then it helped

@HueTheHand

I also have a room temperature IQ, and can't possibly reason through the scenarios mentioned given the available information, before you ask.

Till you've been there you can't get it. I work PSD and was infantry/ PSD in the army for 17 years including 2 tors in the sand box.

That product is JUNK

*slow clap*

If you what to get your self hurt by using junk go for it

Or you can listen to people that know what they are taking about

Context, sir. Look up the thread.

I'm also a certified CQB and small unit combat instructor

There is NO use for that shield mount it restricts you to much

There's no way that the poster before me was serious about using that "juggernaut" getup, either.

And your legs and lower torso are still vulnerable

I'm explaining the reasoning behind their invention and its marketing, not my intended use case

It sounded like you were trying to say it was a good product

I find the idea amusing. Like the bullshit in those "Army of Two" video games. That's all. Though I have no doubt that they'll find some - and you used the appropriate term - mall ninjas in local police departments to sell a few.

And thanks for rubbing it in about your career. Lol. I was robbed of mine. Nominated to USMA by the then-chairman of HASC, but disqualified from service by DODMERB. I even tried a direct commission years later when some requirements were slackened to ease the personnel deficit brought on by GWOT, but was again denied the chance to fight.

Sorry

Lol. How could you have known?! I'm picking. I just wanted to point out that I have desperately wanted that life from a young age (my grandfather did WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, and my uncle graduated USMA in 1987), and I'm grateful we have men who have "seen the elephant" in our camp.

We have lots of combat vets going I know lots of TWP are former military

Our high school made us do a year-long project as Seniors, sort of like a junior dissertation. You did a paper and some sort of physical project, presenting both in a formal lecture at year end in order to graduate. I did a detailed study comparing the German campaign in France, 1940 to Operation Desert Storm. Many civilians are still unaware of the Stryker ICV family. At 16, I was closely following its development and knew I wanted eventual command of one of the brigade combat teams.

My inability to wear the uniform has left a tremendous void in my life, with which only my children and this movement have enabled me to cope.

That sucks

But strikers suck also 😊

Lol. Yes, I have taken some solace in the fact that they've sort of turned out like the second coming of the early Bradleys.

Now they look like rolling fences with all the anti RPH cadges on them

RPG even

Do the men in the field like any of the light armor options? How has the MRAP been received?

TBH I was a light fighter i liked the 1157 HMMWVS

The MRAPS are great but suck for Iraq do to how narrow the roads are

A lot of places they can't go

So you have to dismount Outsode the town and go in on foot

They are massive. They're put together here in South Carolina, down in Ladson.

Really a war that should never have been fought.

My best friend - also a Patrick, and still a Marine - fought through the whole battle of Nasiriyah right at the beginning of the war. He said it was the most miserable two weeks imaginable.

Stryker > sdkfz 251

@Stannisthemannis

I dunno, man. There's nothing like the 251/16. The only thing better than flammenwerfer? Flammenwerfer x 2! Amirite?

Lol

Ever ridden in one? Lol

What about a stern panzer

Well, no. That would be a once-in-a-lifetime affair.

You know some militaries still use the Sd.Kfz it is a modernized version but Romania , Fhe Chezec republic , Hungry and some of the Balkans nations still use them

I knew Hungary, but not the others. That's awesome. Yeah, the Balkans love their German weapons. It's the last place still using 7.92x57 ("8mm Mauser") in any quantity. Which is a shame, because it's a damn good round. I have one of the Egyptian contract FN-49 rifles chambered for it.

Gotta get your reenact on son

@Stannisthemannis

That's glorious! Heil Hitler!

StugIIIG

@Stannisthemannis

You've probably seen this short film (4 parts), then. But in case you haven't:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yBThvkdzW00

Features StuGs and a couple 251/16s.

We had trucks too lol

@Stannisthemannis

In what part of the country do you live?

PA

No shit. So you do the Bulge show at Indiantown Gap?

Those pics are from the Reading airshow and Fort Indiantown Gap event

I did

Haven't reenacted in a couple years though

Nice. I'm actually originally from Scranton, and went back there for my undergraduate work.

I'm from Baltimore originally but PA is Eden compared to MD

Well, I can't speak from experience. "The Wire" is all that's been necessary to keep me clear of Charm City.

When I was young we did live smack in the middle of Philadelphia, which was fine. But later, my dad had to work in West Philly, which was not.

The wire is an accurate depiction of the ghetto. White areas are safe or were. Since the riots (that I joy rided through) the niggers have been spilling over since the cops don't give a damn after being thrown under the bus

We later moved out to Bryn Mawr, and he even did a rotation at Geisinger, so we lived in Danville for half a year.

Exactly. I'm familiar with several long-serving members of our local law enforcement here around Columbia, SC, and they are unanimous in expressing their frustration at the knowledge that they can't actually police because no one up the chain of command will have their back. They're also utterly disgusted by the defeatist, lazy, and plea-happy, if not downright catch-and-release prosecutors.

These are men who felt a calling to their work (most after their military service, to boot), and can't believe what a mockery the institution to which they long ago chose to dedicate their lives has become.

It's sort of like a more compact, intense version of what I think all of us truly red-pilled feel.

I guarantee 9/10 White cops are either WN or sympathetic

I'm from a cop family and all my kin are sympathetic to us

Well, once you're actually exposed to the filth, you know the score. Classmates at Scranton used to dismiss my "racism" as "ignorance" I had picked up in SC. I would explain to them that Richland County, SC is equal parts Black and White, so I had lived the experience, while they were the ones ignorant of the problem because they'd never left their insulated zip codes out in the wealthy Philadelphia suburbs.

@PureDureSure yeah the Serbs love the 8mm the Serbian army uses a big AK in 8mm and I have one 😊

No shit? That's amazing. I want one now! Actually, do they make an RPK variant? Lol

That's really neat! It's like a battle rifle counterpart to the AK. It's actually a lot like the PSL, isn't it? Just less DMR-oriented.

When were these imported and what are they called?

It is called a M76 sniper rifle

http://assaultweaponsofohio.net