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2020-03-19 03:23:33 UTC

The concept of the Right has always been very amorphous and understood more in terms of what its a reaction to than what it is, but the concept of a hardline socialist Left is useful, they’re also useful relative concepts if you understand political context @Guilherme-patient00

2020-03-19 03:23:33 UTC

That person was trans

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No hips

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who cars

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That was one ugly motherfucker

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Big face

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Is this person trans.


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But like they’re not very particular. You don’t learn a lot about someone’s politics by their identification eith Left or Right Wing

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No she's just old @Goose

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Ugly grandma

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I'm from Maryland

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Gimme Dem Crabs

2020-03-19 03:24:29 UTC

Bruh when you join looking for people to have a conversation with

2020-03-19 03:24:34 UTC

Also I'm pretty sure the image you linked was of a totally different person

2020-03-19 03:24:45 UTC

And you realize it’s all teenagers being pseudo intellectuals

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I'm 20

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No its people fighting me over alphabet people

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@fuck12moredeadcops I see. Even if I disagree with you, I have no rights to trivialize your hardship. But I think we can distinguish between real problem and imagined one.

2020-03-19 03:25:08 UTC

@Benneu hi 20 I'm dad

2020-03-19 03:25:17 UTC

Man that's an epic dunk dude

2020-03-19 03:25:20 UTC

Hi Dad, you back from getting those cigarettes? @FML

2020-03-19 03:25:23 UTC

Alphabet people bro

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alphabet people

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I know it's hard for me, too.

2020-03-19 03:25:27 UTC

Like using words that have more letters don’t make you smarter

2020-03-19 03:25:30 UTC

That's such an epic dunk on the libtards

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It makes you look like you are trying harder

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Fucking pwned them epically

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alphabet people

2020-03-19 03:25:46 UTC

If you use bigger words to say basic things

2020-03-19 03:26:03 UTC

Ok monkey

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And not actually say anything that isn’t super basic

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I feel tempted to simply blame on some random things, too.

2020-03-19 03:26:23 UTC

Like let me give you an example

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Are these people trans?



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You said you could pick them out, do it.

2020-03-19 03:27:03 UTC

They could be they couldn’t

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You can’t see their whole neck

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Giving me faces not whole bodies

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why are we doing this

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And or the shoulder length

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why do you need whole bodies?

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who the fuck even cares

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You said you can tell from the bone structure

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How the fuckyou Americans think that anyone can have a gun, but no one should be allowed to smoke marijuana?

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You've got shoulders and face and skull in there

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you can

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thats why I need whole bodies brudder

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who cares

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That's a solid amount of bones dude

2020-03-19 03:27:50 UTC

Some states can smoke weed

2020-03-19 03:27:59 UTC

> How the fuck the fuck you Americans think that anyone can have a gun, but no one should be allowed to smoke marijuana?
@Guilherme-patient00 this right here. Is it.

2020-03-19 03:28:18 UTC

Or are you telling me the definingly masculine giveaway bone is in your fucking foot

2020-03-19 03:28:36 UTC

lol this whole argument is just confusing me at this point

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Alright I’m just gonna guess

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And you tell me if I’m right

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No no I want this from mel

2020-03-19 03:29:16 UTC

They are both trans ?

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1st one isnt second one is 😳

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Maybe some people think non-transgender people are oppressed, which is false, so they oppose accepting transgender people.

2020-03-19 03:29:40 UTC

Neither of them are.

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Oh haha

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@Baji Quan i think that the US should go back in to the roots.
But not the slavery thing of course.

2020-03-19 03:29:52 UTC

So clearly you've fucked up somewhere

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Well I tried

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You gave it a shot baji

2020-03-19 03:30:06 UTC

Yea because you’re trying to trick me

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But you at least didnt have anything riding on it

2020-03-19 03:30:18 UTC

no he’s trying to prove a point

2020-03-19 03:30:27 UTC

I literally googled "woman" and "trans woman" and chose 4 random photos

2020-03-19 03:30:34 UTC

I'm not some fucking puppetmaster

2020-03-19 03:30:40 UTC

It's a basic experiment

2020-03-19 03:30:48 UTC

I’m a cis female and I have pretty broad shoulders, I’m not a fucking trans

2020-03-19 03:30:58 UTC

ok well you were implying there were trannies :)

2020-03-19 03:31:01 UTC

Yeah I was looking at the shoulders

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@frankieocean what the fuck cis means?

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I know some dudes who have pretty wide hips, and I've got a pretty nice ass

2020-03-19 03:31:13 UTC

But they had jackets so

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Cis means normal

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bruh what happened to the whole convo about not using "trannies"?

2020-03-19 03:31:21 UTC

Cis just means not trans.

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Cis means they identify as the gender they were assigned at birth.

2020-03-19 03:31:33 UTC

I literally never implied anything

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you also have to realize, if you transition before your bones fully fuse, the results will be more similar to a cis woman

2020-03-19 03:31:37 UTC

@Meloh so is an euphemism

2020-03-19 03:31:44 UTC

I said, "tell me if these people are trans or not"

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That was it

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That was the only requirement

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Why are people being able to flex they can point out trans

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You're really reaching now dude

2020-03-19 03:31:59 UTC

@Mel I guess Goose is just trying to say that transgender people are not scary as you think.

2020-03-19 03:32:02 UTC

Flexing *

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Like just concede that you know fucking nothing about this

2020-03-19 03:32:11 UTC

No that’s not what he’s saying black

2020-03-19 03:32:15 UTC

I never said they were scary haha

2020-03-19 03:32:21 UTC

People flex over pretty weird shit, tbh.

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Yeah that’s like a really dumb flex

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“Yes ima investigator pro I can tell which person has a dick

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People in the US flex over how much unpaid overtime they work, like "dude, you're bragging about being a chump for your boss."

2020-03-19 03:32:51 UTC

you said trans females shouldnt be allowed in female sporting events, which shows a complete lack of understanding about how hormones work

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they shouldn’t ...

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Bro what

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because they crush the records and it’s simply unfair

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Have you seen them in sports

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it’s a hormone thing

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Give me data then

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@RedCascadianok, socialist

2020-03-19 03:33:28 UTC

Because we've given you specific counter arguments

2020-03-19 03:33:30 UTC

We should be criticizing sports competition itself, not people.

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a good example is

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@Guilherme-patient00 I mean,you found me?

2020-03-19 03:33:46 UTC

I'll let South Park's Strong Woman competition act as my opinion on trans-female athletes .-.

2020-03-19 03:33:48 UTC

The weightlifter who identified as female

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Broke all the records

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Then identified as man

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So either you're just fucking wrong, or you've seen some massive study that completely blows me out of the water

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Or the dude who literally went trans

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did he take hormones?

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And again, I agreed there should be limits based on hormone intake

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And started beating the shit out of females

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i agree with you there

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Yeah the MMA fighter took hormones

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Fuck off with the trump shit we're talking about trans people

2020-03-19 03:34:34 UTC

Like some poor girl got her skull cracked

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I mean as in, how long theyve been on them

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It’s dangerous sport but even more dangerous

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As well as muscle and weight and such

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of course you do

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@Goose who cares what he thinks mate.

2020-03-19 03:34:57 UTC

It's about competition vs participation conflict, not about transgender people being unfair.

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This is my example

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This bitch lmao

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but a fully transitioned female who has hormone levels the same as a cis female and has been on them for several years should be permited

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Yes, exactly.

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Yeah if they are on hormones along time

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To not have gigantic fucking muscles and be a man go for it

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If there are disparities after that point then I'd say it has to be because of skill

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It the only difference is if they were born

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Like hormones do a fucking number on you

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A different genre is cool and all but

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They're a strong equalizer

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It’s all situational on the hormones

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How long they use it

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I think we should provide better solution than letting cisgender women and transgender women fight for opportunity.

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We can make major reform to sports competition.

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What are you talking about

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Just let them go

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Ok finally you make sense

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that's how you loose the women vote, good stuff keep going

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They are free now

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I belive most of the strength advantage goes away after a long enough time on hormones.

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It's funny how this people really care about what the others think about them, their individuality is in the garbage.

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If yoelle Romero

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Used hormones for a year

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again we can all agree if a man identifies as a female, and uses that to compete unfairly, i think that shouldnt be ok

2020-03-19 03:37:31 UTC

They still have a heavier bone structure, though... but some women are just heavily built anyways

2020-03-19 03:37:32 UTC

He’d still be fucking the females up next year

2020-03-19 03:37:39 UTC

We all were assuming that sports competition is about ranking atheles in numbers, but what if we change our mindset?

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Black what

2020-03-19 03:37:55 UTC

No one said any of these things

2020-03-19 03:38:03 UTC

@Melyou know.
Oh he don't like gay people Oo no :(

2020-03-19 03:38:03 UTC

your bone density goes way down on hormones

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Like pseudo intellectual

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If winning was so important, we would just remember 1st winner and forget the rest, but we don't.

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i would know

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Mel generally doesnt seem to like anyone who isnt within their very narrow idea of what is "normal"

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Why don’t they just make new divisions for trans people

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again. hormones decrease your bone densiry

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That’s a solution

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Ehh, thatd probably be more inequal

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Trans females only

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@Goose I think Mel was worried about competition being unfair.

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hormones decrease your muscle mass

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Trans male only

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Yes because its unfair

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So make two divisions I guess

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lots of things are unfair

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The biological women train for years

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you guys dont listen

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Mel is grasping at straws because they got blown the fuck out on everything else

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lots of things can be perceived as unfair

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And then they get crushed

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So do the trans women bro

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Trans women can train too what

2020-03-19 03:40:05 UTC

we agrree people shouldnt just be able to identify as female then participate in female sporting events

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Again, you cant just be a fat fucking dude, transition, and then be better.

2020-03-19 03:40:12 UTC

@Mel Do you think 'normal' sports competition was perfectly fair?

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but if you had any idea on how transitioning actually works hormonally, you would understand the physical effects estrogen have

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Look at what black says

2020-03-19 03:41:01 UTC

This man is pseudo intellectual

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Uses big words and makes no sense

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So you’re saying everything in their body changes but they also have trained for years but they are different physically, like their muscles just dissapear lmao

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Yes that is a lot of what happens

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doesn’t make sense bro

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it does bro

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@Baji Quan what??? black_rainbow used normal words lmao

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ok lib

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No before that

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I guess most science just doesnt make sense to you

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@Baji Quan Was I doing something wrong? Should I have used easier words?

2020-03-19 03:41:57 UTC

and you would understand that the muscle structure turns much more female, and the muscle mass decreases. you would also understand that some transwomens bones lose so much density that it makes it much easier for them to break them

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awe man that hurt

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It’s not that it’s just

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The way you write makes it like you are trying to hard

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Like seriously bro just admit you're wrong and I'll go to fucking bed

2020-03-19 03:42:42 UTC

@Baji Quan why is that even a bad thing tho

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why dont you look it up

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It doesn’t express intelligence you just don’t properly convey whatever point you are trying to make

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Cause this is becoming fuckibg annoying

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@Baji Quan My fault. I guess it's my habit.

2020-03-19 03:42:51 UTC

come join music channel !

2020-03-19 03:43:04 UTC

Okay so you're still just. Denying scientific consensus.

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@Goose go to bed now

2020-03-19 03:43:14 UTC

just like how you’re not changing your opinion I won’t either

2020-03-19 03:43:16 UTC

Let’s all go to bed

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