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2020-02-18 16:22:43 UTC

gender isnt an identify

2020-02-18 16:22:46 UTC

its a way of acting

2020-02-18 16:22:47 UTC

and looking

2020-02-18 16:22:48 UTC

this was pretty cool

2020-02-18 16:22:48 UTC

Yeah

2020-02-18 16:23:11 UTC

if people dont recognize you as woman its because you arent one

2020-02-18 16:23:20 UTC

@murky so what would they be if you never got to see their genitals?

2020-02-18 16:23:23 UTC

theres a bimodal cluster of gendered traits between masculine and feminine so in a way there is 2 genders but that's reductionist

2020-02-18 16:23:24 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist Because the social construct of "man" is a dominant gender influence, and for many individuals, they might not experience gender dysphoria and so on and so forth. Do you want to discuss how many hijiaras came to be in the Indian subcontient?

2020-02-18 16:23:33 UTC

I agree with Hugh tbh

2020-02-18 16:23:36 UTC

@Arc How what I said implies that society determines gender? Suits and dresses are just clothing.

2020-02-18 16:23:37 UTC

@AlexHT just judge them on their personality

2020-02-18 16:23:40 UTC

I dont have to identify as a man, and I dont have to worry about people "missgendering" me, because I am actually a man, trannies arent.

2020-02-18 16:23:48 UTC

It's not that hard

2020-02-18 16:23:49 UTC

Action matters more than words

2020-02-18 16:24:03 UTC

> @KekistaniLegend just judge them on their personality
Sure

2020-02-18 16:24:10 UTC

@Hugh transgender men are men

2020-02-18 16:24:11 UTC

no sir

2020-02-18 16:24:15 UTC

loool

2020-02-18 16:24:17 UTC

Lmfao

2020-02-18 16:24:20 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist suits and dresses are undoubtedly apart of gender

2020-02-18 16:24:24 UTC

if someone passes as being a man they are a man

2020-02-18 16:24:26 UTC

fair enough

2020-02-18 16:24:30 UTC

People can be what they want to be

2020-02-18 16:24:31 UTC

but if they dont pass they arent

2020-02-18 16:24:33 UTC

Hugh is just rambling nonsense, lol.

2020-02-18 16:24:36 UTC

It doesnt effect anyone @Hugh

2020-02-18 16:24:38 UTC

we appreciate power

2020-02-18 16:24:40 UTC

No it doesnt work like that :/

2020-02-18 16:24:46 UTC

I dont care if it effects people

2020-02-18 16:24:47 UTC

Them being a man doesnt effect you?

2020-02-18 16:24:48 UTC

"If I do not recognize their gender as being this, it is not this gender" 😂

2020-02-18 16:24:56 UTC

Yes

2020-02-18 16:25:01 UTC

thats literally what gender is

2020-02-18 16:25:05 UTC

No it's not.

2020-02-18 16:25:06 UTC

There is only male and female

2020-02-18 16:25:09 UTC

yeah it is

2020-02-18 16:25:09 UTC

so what's your point

2020-02-18 16:25:12 UTC

Transgender men can be male or female

2020-02-18 16:25:14 UTC

gender is inexorably linked to your connection to society so in a way hugh is right

2020-02-18 16:25:16 UTC

if someone has physical feminine traits but is a man, until proved to me that they're not, they're a woman in my eyes. that doesnt meant that they are a woman

2020-02-18 16:25:18 UTC

you silly man

2020-02-18 16:25:22 UTC

@Hugh what is an objective standard of man or woman?

2020-02-18 16:25:28 UTC

Youre only the gender people preserve you as

2020-02-18 16:25:31 UTC

Arguing gender is somehow only dependent on interaction and perception is such a low iq take. Yikes.

2020-02-18 16:25:31 UTC

its just what my perspective allows me to believe

2020-02-18 16:25:33 UTC

physicality isnt the only factor lol

2020-02-18 16:25:35 UTC

Transgender women can be male or female

2020-02-18 16:25:38 UTC

Im not saying there is an objective standard idiot

2020-02-18 16:25:45 UTC

I literally told this guy hair isnt restricted and agreee with him and he turns around and talks shit about transgender people

2020-02-18 16:25:48 UTC

Ignoring the identity and conception aspect of gender.. Yikes.

2020-02-18 16:25:49 UTC

stop with these leading questions that have nothing to do with what im saying

2020-02-18 16:25:58 UTC

When a second ago he was butthurt about hairstyles

2020-02-18 16:26:00 UTC

gender isnt an identity 😐

2020-02-18 16:26:01 UTC

@xeviax But what is the reason why in Western and so many other societies being born male leads to becoming a man? Why is it specifically a man? What causes it?

2020-02-18 16:26:04 UTC

Literally fucking done

2020-02-18 16:26:05 UTC

its a way of behaving

2020-02-18 16:26:06 UTC

Bye

2020-02-18 16:26:08 UTC

and looking

2020-02-18 16:26:19 UTC

the behavior ties into that identity

2020-02-18 16:26:38 UTC

Like I can identify as a dog if i want

2020-02-18 16:26:42 UTC

but thats not what I am

2020-02-18 16:26:51 UTC

dog isnt an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:53 UTC

its a thing

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC

yeah because dog refers to a species

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC

<a:pepcorn:594168842951852073>

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC

gender is not an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:56 UTC

just like gender

2020-02-18 16:26:58 UTC

sex is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:02 UTC

yeah

2020-02-18 16:27:03 UTC

which is bullshit

2020-02-18 16:27:07 UTC

no

2020-02-18 16:27:11 UTC

some of them

2020-02-18 16:27:12 UTC

not all

2020-02-18 16:27:15 UTC

Sex is biological gender is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:17 UTC

but gender is not identity

2020-02-18 16:27:26 UTC

gender is by definition a combination of how you identify, present yourself, and interact with society

2020-02-18 16:27:32 UTC

Sex and gender are both constructs

2020-02-18 16:27:37 UTC

so it is at least partially contingent on individual determination

2020-02-18 16:27:40 UTC

People might have them as identities, but that doesnt mean that they are an idenity. Just as humanity is something someone might identity with, but thats not what it is.

2020-02-18 16:27:40 UTC

@AlexHT its the exact opposite lmfao

2020-02-18 16:27:42 UTC

Reject materialism

2020-02-18 16:27:46 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist First off, when working with any sort of history here, you need to take into account this:The traditional suppression of trans people has long existed, similar to how gay people were suppressed and orcrastized if discovered. Such oppression is very much a part of history and you have to take that into account when discussing this.

2020-02-18 16:27:47 UTC

gender is biological sex is identity

2020-02-18 16:27:52 UTC
2020-02-18 16:27:53 UTC

and anything other man or woman is a glitch

2020-02-18 16:28:02 UTC

lol what

2020-02-18 16:28:09 UTC

you got it all fucked bro

2020-02-18 16:28:10 UTC

its harsh but its true

2020-02-18 16:28:24 UTC

@Arc But they are a small part of it. It's like saying that for an Arab wearing Arab clothes determines Arab clothes. Arabs usually wear Arabs clothes so people could tell they're Arabs but if they wear say British or Chinese clothes it won't make them non-Arabs.

2020-02-18 16:28:30 UTC

whats the point in reproductive organs that dont work to reproduce

2020-02-18 16:28:45 UTC

and not including surgical procedures to become infertile

2020-02-18 16:28:50 UTC

@xeviax Ok it happened. But why?

2020-02-18 16:28:58 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist so gender roles are different across cultures?

2020-02-18 16:29:05 UTC

How can this be?

2020-02-18 16:29:25 UTC

@Arc Clothing is different across cultures.

2020-02-18 16:29:30 UTC

And history.

2020-02-18 16:29:43 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist but surly we will see similar clothing if this is biological

2020-02-18 16:29:52 UTC

Correct?

2020-02-18 16:30:04 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist But why what? As for the second point, merely because a lot of "males" fit with their gender identity of being "men", that doesn't mean it applies to the millions of trans/nonbinary individuals that don't find this fitting for them.

2020-02-18 16:30:25 UTC

Like, this is a sizeable phenomona. A major one.

2020-02-18 16:30:33 UTC

😐

2020-02-18 16:30:44 UTC

If you want to see notes on some of the science conducted so far (2016 but still)

2020-02-18 16:30:53 UTC

gender isnt a science thing

2020-02-18 16:30:56 UTC

sociology isn't science

2020-02-18 16:30:58 UTC

idiot

2020-02-18 16:31:01 UTC

yeah this

2020-02-18 16:31:05 UTC

👍

2020-02-18 16:31:18 UTC

You know nothing at all, please don't interject or butt in the middle when you have no knowledge of the topic.

2020-02-18 16:31:23 UTC

Thanks.

2020-02-18 16:31:28 UTC

gender is science lmao

2020-02-18 16:31:30 UTC

wdym

2020-02-18 16:31:30 UTC

i know some things, you lie!

2020-02-18 16:31:37 UTC

I have already absolutely BTFOd this entire discussion

2020-02-18 16:31:57 UTC

<a:pepcorn:594168842951852073>

2020-02-18 16:32:06 UTC

Do your research, read the actual page, learn about how science regarding trans people is conducted in a spectrum of sciences, the medical, biology, sociology, and more.

2020-02-18 16:32:15 UTC

no i dont think i will

2020-02-18 16:32:18 UTC

sociology isn't science

2020-02-18 16:32:19 UTC

Please don't interject with nonsense without having done any form of research.

2020-02-18 16:32:31 UTC

@xeviax gender studies dont exist

2020-02-18 16:32:36 UTC

Yeah, that's what I thought, now stick low and mind your own business, buck-a-roo

2020-02-18 16:32:37 UTC

Social science doesnt exist

2020-02-18 16:32:39 UTC

God damn

2020-02-18 16:32:52 UTC

@Arc To these weirdos apparently it doesn't ikr

2020-02-18 16:33:02 UTC

my gender is a helicopter, respect my gender

2020-02-18 16:33:06 UTC

good for you

2020-02-18 16:33:06 UTC

This is even worse than the abortion debate

2020-02-18 16:33:10 UTC

😂

2020-02-18 16:33:11 UTC

your gender is not a helicopter

2020-02-18 16:33:15 UTC

<:youfukinkiddinme:673640815259680780>

2020-02-18 16:33:17 UTC

you can say your sex is a helicopter

2020-02-18 16:33:17 UTC

Science denial is op op

2020-02-18 16:33:29 UTC

@xeviax I'm asking you why majority of males in so many societies end up becoming male. Even if that is because of social pressure, why does it happen? Was there some kind of ancient civil war between sexes that man-woman sex system won and now oppresses everyone else?

2020-02-18 16:33:30 UTC

Anyways, Sun Emperor is actually engaging with me in contrast.

2020-02-18 16:33:40 UTC

I can say i sexually identify as a carpet but not biologically which is gender

2020-02-18 16:34:05 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist No. A major finding across the sciences is that *gender* is a social construct.

2020-02-18 16:34:18 UTC

that's why i'm a helicopter

2020-02-18 16:34:24 UTC

i am socially accepted as one

2020-02-18 16:34:26 UTC

There was no such war. There was culture and societal influences that shaped what a "man" is in your society and so on and so forth.

2020-02-18 16:34:28 UTC

@xeviax Okay I mixed them up.

2020-02-18 16:34:34 UTC

the funny this is that even though these tranny people think that they are liberating themselves from the concept of gender or something like that

2020-02-18 16:34:42 UTC

they are really just becoming more cucked by it

2020-02-18 16:34:52 UTC

by seeing everything as identity

2020-02-18 16:35:00 UTC

Oof. I need to go for a family related engagement IRL.

2020-02-18 16:35:05 UTC

this is the difference between like the tomboys and the contemporary trannies

2020-02-18 16:35:18 UTC

<a:pepcorn:594168842951852073>

2020-02-18 16:35:18 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist May we continue this in a bit/soon/later?

2020-02-18 16:35:34 UTC

@xeviax Maybe.

2020-02-18 16:35:37 UTC

Perhaps by then, Hugh will stop his unwarranted interjections

2020-02-18 16:35:46 UTC

😎

2020-02-18 16:35:52 UTC

get rekt

2020-02-18 16:35:59 UTC

Despite his lack of research and knowledge on this topic.

2020-02-18 16:36:08 UTC

No, being cringe isn't really swag, sweetie.

2020-02-18 16:36:19 UTC

Anyways, gotta go for a bit, dammit family.

2020-02-18 16:36:34 UTC

i identify as Probably Tim

2020-02-18 16:36:43 UTC

hi server owner 😳

2020-02-18 16:36:48 UTC

<:amusedpepe:537808859004403733>

2020-02-18 16:37:29 UTC

are you a man or are you gay?

2020-02-18 16:37:52 UTC

pick your gender

2020-02-18 16:38:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604650578320293928/679366225842929674/image0.png

2020-02-18 16:38:57 UTC

This is an old call back

2020-02-18 16:39:08 UTC

Someone used tims name in a hypothetical

2020-02-18 16:39:11 UTC

😂

2020-02-18 16:39:16 UTC

lol

2020-02-18 16:39:34 UTC

Jordan

2020-02-18 16:39:38 UTC

you mean doxastical

2020-02-18 16:39:42 UTC

I was reading a book about my place

2020-02-18 16:39:51 UTC

and it says that near my house there was a battle in ww2

2020-02-18 16:39:59 UTC

my grandpa can confirm that too

2020-02-18 16:40:02 UTC

they nearly shot him

2020-02-18 16:40:16 UTC

<:sadcat:507752166572949524>

2020-02-18 16:40:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604650578320293928/679366609084743691/holy-f-ck-motherf-cking-minesweeper_o_842390.jpg

2020-02-18 16:40:22 UTC

that is why we need tanks

2020-02-18 16:40:28 UTC

Hot

2020-02-18 16:40:29 UTC

to defend ourselves <:amusedpepe:537808859004403733>

2020-02-18 16:40:38 UTC

@Jordan Philips Cockram <:sadcatlove:661995004746661920>

2020-02-18 16:40:39 UTC

Tanks make things go boom

2020-02-18 16:40:52 UTC

@Electron <:luvyou:676924511328796692>

2020-02-18 16:41:16 UTC

Lel

2020-02-18 16:41:19 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604650578320293928/679366850592899092/unk55nown_1.png

2020-02-18 16:41:26 UTC

How come there is

2020-02-18 16:41:29 UTC

A right to life

2020-02-18 16:41:31 UTC

Statistics

2020-02-18 16:41:38 UTC

A right to freedom

2020-02-18 16:41:47 UTC

But no right to cock and ball torture?

2020-02-18 16:41:52 UTC

Ok

2020-02-18 16:42:01 UTC

OWO

2020-02-18 16:42:07 UTC

we were at 10203

2020-02-18 16:42:14 UTC

o.O that's a statistician

2020-02-18 16:42:15 UTC

Wot

2020-02-18 16:42:19 UTC

Bro

2020-02-18 16:42:20 UTC

now at 10199

2020-02-18 16:42:23 UTC

Cock and ball torture is a human right

2020-02-18 16:42:27 UTC

Lel

2020-02-18 16:42:32 UTC

I remember when it was 1203

2020-02-18 16:42:40 UTC

am or pm?

2020-02-18 16:42:44 UTC

@Froggo <:sadcatlove:661995004746661920>

2020-02-18 16:42:44 UTC

Damn it’s popular.

2020-02-18 16:42:51 UTC

@Froggo same

2020-02-18 16:42:53 UTC

Kale

2020-02-18 16:43:00 UTC

@Froggo Which year were you born in?

2020-02-18 16:43:03 UTC
2020-02-18 16:43:03 UTC

2020-02-18 16:43:10 UTC

xde

2020-02-18 16:43:12 UTC

Surrrreeeeee

2020-02-18 16:43:30 UTC

Kek

2020-02-18 16:43:34 UTC

this server grow so fast

2020-02-18 16:43:41 UTC

Tru

2020-02-18 16:43:44 UTC

i like this server

2020-02-18 16:43:49 UTC

tim is my son

2020-02-18 16:43:56 UTC

Same. Thank God no one aborted it

2020-02-18 16:44:00 UTC

we appreciate power

2020-02-18 16:44:00 UTC

<:youfukinkiddinme:673640815259680780>

2020-02-18 16:44:03 UTC

Wait how do get roles?

2020-02-18 16:44:12 UTC

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist <#604683357397319690> boiii

2020-02-18 16:44:13 UTC

<#604683357397319690>

2020-02-18 16:44:13 UTC

you need to deserve em

2020-02-18 16:44:14 UTC

sir

2020-02-18 16:44:22 UTC

lol

2020-02-18 16:44:29 UTC

@Ubiquinone do abortion debates arouse you

2020-02-18 16:44:30 UTC

Did wicked fix the bot?

2020-02-18 16:44:41 UTC

Yea. I’m very passionate about banning them.

2020-02-18 16:44:53 UTC

<:floofer:673270569931898899>

2020-02-18 16:44:54 UTC

Wicked doesn't want me as helper as he says that I am a "rule breaker"

2020-02-18 16:44:59 UTC

Pretty much anyone who says they’re against abortion I’ll vote for them.

2020-02-18 16:45:01 UTC

Why is it EVERYTIME I WAKE UP. The debate topic is abortion?

2020-02-18 16:45:02 UTC

<:worrypepe:669263834061471745>

2020-02-18 16:45:07 UTC

Idc if they’re Hitler

2020-02-18 16:45:16 UTC

HAH wicked has pp now

2020-02-18 16:45:29 UTC

@Sᴛᴏʀᴍ because the chat is pro boy breeding

2020-02-18 16:45:35 UTC

@Jordan Philips Cockram <:peepolove:602623255559405574>

2020-02-18 16:45:40 UTC

@Ubiquinonewhat if they grow up to be people who support abortion?

2020-02-18 16:45:45 UTC

Abortion implies heterosexual sex

2020-02-18 16:45:46 UTC

@Arc was gonna say change ur name but you're being ironic lmao

2020-02-18 16:45:49 UTC

this mods so gay

2020-02-18 16:45:52 UTC

yes

2020-02-18 16:45:56 UTC

mods are gay

2020-02-18 16:45:59 UTC

duhhhh

2020-02-18 16:46:01 UTC

Then I know my work succeeded.

2020-02-18 16:46:04 UTC

<:sadcatpepe:630958506513793055>

2020-02-18 16:46:10 UTC

The fact they have a right to live is all I want.

2020-02-18 16:46:17 UTC

Idc what they turn out to be.

2020-02-18 16:46:19 UTC

im abit too gay tbh

2020-02-18 16:46:22 UTC

Hot

2020-02-18 16:46:31 UTC

^gayest user on here

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