culture does not magically develop in a vacuum

it comes from people

people are genes

I'm trying to give you a helping hand in your restaurant, I'm one of your best workers but all this degenerate can see if my skin color I think that's retarded.

it comes from genes, I agree. But so does language. And you wouldn't say that a black guy can't learn English? English having emerged from white genes

black people in america, some of them with roots that trace back 400 years, struggle mightily to speak proper english

i've seen teenage european basketball players come to play in the nba, speak better english than their middle-aged african american coaches

@Str3tch I wouldn't say they struggle. It's a different dialect with a different grammar. Struggle to speak Standard English? I will grant you that. But that means we should be integrated

And the guy doesn't have the balls to fire me and hire an asian worker. If he hated white people and wanted to fire me and hire an asian I'd actually be ok with it, but this shit of going to a majority white country, hiring white workers and hating them just seems degenerate as fuck like wtf are you doing with your life. lol

no

not integrated

their poor english is poor

lowering standards is horrible

What about other minorities? Askhenazi Jews speak better English than Whites

Much better

accepting substandard results as a way to be inclusive is having a deleterious effect on my society already

ashkenazi jews have a high verbal IQ

but they are also trying to destroy the national character of my country, and change it's fundamental values

some trade-off, eh?

So if Askhenazi Jews didn't do those things, would you be fine with their immigration?

but they do do those things

they've done it everywhere they've gone

patterns have emerged 😄

I know, but hypothetically speaking

there's no point in this hypothetical

I am just curious as to whether you care more about values or ethnicity

values come from ethnicity

maybe white people are weak to manipulation. lol

Hypotheticals test your belief system

everything you do, requires genes

how your environment is shaped around you - that's genes

would you say that history is predetermined by genes then?

in certain respects, yes

people are going to behave the way they are going to behave no matter what

so I guess its over

lol

Sure, and language does too. There are specific areas of the brain we can point to that are involved with language, the left hemisphere, Broca's area and Wernicke's area etc. But a genetically non-english person can learn English really well, Askhenazi Jews being an example....

predetermined insofar as we should expect different results from different populations

there's no reason to believe in "equality"

it does not exist in nature

If the ethnostate was in our genes it would be here by now

So let's say there was an ethnic group of black people with a verbal and overall IQ as high as Askhenazi Jews, and they adopted the values and culture of whites, so they were not subversive. In this hypothetical world, would you be fine with these people immigrating?

who knows what the future holds? western civilization is on a downward trajectory

who are these hypothetical people?

It doesn't really matter, but let's call them Wakandans lol. This hypotypical is just for me to get a better understanding of what you value the most

i value a civilization which i think is best

well, if we say that we know how jews will behave in the future because of their genes, and we know how white people will be have in the future because of their genes and we know how black people will behave in the future because of their genes then I guess we do know what the future holds, the future holds the present.

i have an understanding of who is responsible for such civilization, and who is not

i don't see a point in taking some sort of leap of faith just to satisfy the emotional desires of white liberals and outsiders

what is this obsession with inviting outgroups to be with you?

Right, so I guess you wouldn't be fine with them immigrating in this hypo because you value the existence of your people the most?

it's an obsession that is not reciprocated

To me, I don't have an in-group preference. So I don't have this view of there being 'insiders' and 'outsiders.'

Maybe I am defective lol

But that's that

To me, there are only people

you're ill if you don't have in-group preference

you're on a path to extinction

It might be due to being mixed

There is no ethnic group I belong to

surveys show, across races, the only demographic that shares your view are white, self-identified liberals

yes, muttery is a heck of an existence

wait a minute

on one hand

genes determine culture and ethics

on the other hand, culture and ethics varies with the same genes

😕

nothing is neatly defined into tidy categories

but you can be sure white liberals carry ethics and culture that do not survive

they're ultimately disposable

Genes have a "norm of reaction." For example, the same genes for height can vary in terms of their expression with environmental exposure(nutrition)

But there is a limit in the range

yeah but str3tch said "how your environment is shaped around you - that's genes"

yes, other people's genes

the building your sitting in right now is the output of other peoples genes

right

yes

so the variance in terms of their expression is still determined by genes

yes

so they have the same genes, the same environment, but some have liberal ethics and some have conservative ethics

they don't have carbon copies of the same genes

and the liberal ethics would be less likely to survive, in more "eugenic" times

less technological times

we live in dysgenic times

due to technology

there's no "punishment" for being stupid or unhealthy.

you don't even need survival skills to......survive

I mean, if the aspiration for an ideal ethno state is one where you starve to death if you don't have basic survival skills I don't want to live in it. lol

Its kind of like literal degeneracy if we go back to living like cavemen

i'm not suggesting that

Id rather live in a muslim country with smartphones than rely on basic survival skills in day to day life

but harmful ideas are not punished by nature, the way they used to be

not in the immediate sort of way

sure

but our descendants will pay the price

personally I'm hoping for a technological solution

that technological solution might mean the permanent enslavement of humanity

"the end of history"

no real revolution will ever be feasible ever again