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2020-01-23 16:18:30 UTC

throw the race deniers off the earth disk!

2020-01-23 16:18:32 UTC

You can't duck bullets

2020-01-23 16:18:38 UTC

Maybe

2020-01-23 16:18:52 UTC

Their denial of reality will be tested for its efficacy

2020-01-23 16:18:55 UTC

My argument, if it succeeds, makes it impossible for you to make an positive claims, immobilizing you.

2020-01-23 16:19:03 UTC

Can they warp reality and deflect the bullets that way

2020-01-23 16:19:15 UTC

Basically, as a black person would say, I am about to break your ankles.

2020-01-23 16:19:27 UTC

Lol

2020-01-23 16:19:28 UTC

Can we go back to the Woman Question

2020-01-23 16:19:33 UTC

WQ

2020-01-23 16:19:46 UTC

Race Question got boring

2020-01-23 16:19:58 UTC

Big Ben, are you still there?

2020-01-23 16:20:00 UTC

someone here doesnt believe in race?

2020-01-23 16:20:10 UTC

Big Ben is a skeptic.

2020-01-23 16:20:16 UTC

<:sargone:576555026722586635>

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skeptic

2020-01-23 16:20:23 UTC

Lmao

2020-01-23 16:20:36 UTC

Yo guys I watch rationality rules

2020-01-23 16:20:43 UTC

I learned so much

2020-01-23 16:20:48 UTC

Armoured Skeptic

2020-01-23 16:20:50 UTC

I havent watched his stuff with Sargone

2020-01-23 16:20:54 UTC

About being a skeptic

2020-01-23 16:20:56 UTC

Watch siege

2020-01-23 16:21:08 UTC

I only know him because of his battle with Molymeme

2020-01-23 16:21:13 UTC

Also you can have a centrist position on cuckoldry

2020-01-23 16:21:16 UTC

I hope I did not scare Ben off. : (

2020-01-23 16:21:21 UTC

You guys should read David Hume if u wanna pure skepticism. This is pseudo skepticism

2020-01-23 16:21:21 UTC

I learned so much about being a cuckold from Rationality Rules

2020-01-23 16:21:25 UTC

the answer to the women question is that the premises of feminism were equalitarian ideology which is not based on science - that it sought to undo naturally emergent systems which had prevailed for thousands of years with utterly disasterous consequences

2020-01-23 16:21:25 UTC

I think I was getting somewhere.

2020-01-23 16:21:32 UTC

: (

2020-01-23 16:21:40 UTC

Yes

2020-01-23 16:21:43 UTC
2020-01-23 16:21:45 UTC

also the question is nonsense because it talks about rights

2020-01-23 16:21:54 UTC

the premise can just be individualism

2020-01-23 16:21:56 UTC

Yes

2020-01-23 16:21:57 UTC

@Big Ben still here, buddy?

2020-01-23 16:22:00 UTC

Rights oy vey

2020-01-23 16:22:02 UTC

"take each person as an individual"

2020-01-23 16:22:04 UTC

What if rights don't exist

2020-01-23 16:22:19 UTC

>implying they exist

2020-01-23 16:22:30 UTC

And if they do exist

2020-01-23 16:22:32 UTC

why should they be equal

2020-01-23 16:22:38 UTC

feminism is actually more rooted in Marxism than individualist liberalism

2020-01-23 16:22:41 UTC

now, of course, shitlibs get confused and can't help be mix up equal opportunity with equality of outcome

2020-01-23 16:22:56 UTC

because none of these principles is actually right or wrong

2020-01-23 16:23:02 UTC

I honestly root feminism as a dysfunctional personality type. Ugh

2020-01-23 16:23:04 UTC

both principles are useless

2020-01-23 16:23:06 UTC

again, it's just people using talking points to win arguments

2020-01-23 16:23:13 UTC

Why have equality of opportunity or outcome

2020-01-23 16:23:19 UTC

yes, witches originated it

2020-01-23 16:23:22 UTC

They are impossible to achieve

2020-01-23 16:23:24 UTC

Hey, I can get away with making fun of feminism in front of feminist.

2020-01-23 16:23:25 UTC

witches and simps

2020-01-23 16:23:28 UTC

Rights? More like.. state granted privileges

2020-01-23 16:23:32 UTC

You cant get equality of opportunity, what does that even mean

2020-01-23 16:23:34 UTC

<:supermale:399903458964275203>

2020-01-23 16:23:52 UTC

I didn't mean to scare Big Ben off.

2020-01-23 16:23:54 UTC

: (

2020-01-23 16:23:56 UTC

burning witches was a good social practice which we can cogently defend

2020-01-23 16:23:58 UTC

Even if you gave 2 different individuals the exact same resources

2020-01-23 16:24:01 UTC

@The Living Paradox English philosophers are more or less an oxymoron, the language just is crap for it (or brits have all braindamage)

2020-01-23 16:24:08 UTC

Their opportunities arent gonna be the same

2020-01-23 16:24:23 UTC

(Cuz they arent the same)

2020-01-23 16:24:30 UTC

witch burning was the medieval THOT patrol

2020-01-23 16:24:35 UTC

Thing is once you accept Equality of Opportunity

2020-01-23 16:24:49 UTC

The Jew only has to push a little bit for you to enter the Outcome mode

2020-01-23 16:24:59 UTC

if you think that people aren't equal, then you're a bad person

2020-01-23 16:25:00 UTC

I mean, ain't it obvious, why they use all that empirial measurement shit?

2020-01-23 16:25:02 UTC

therefore people are equal

2020-01-23 16:25:05 UTC

The Inquisitors killed off mutants, essentially atheists and liberals.

2020-01-23 16:25:06 UTC

Kek

2020-01-23 16:25:10 UTC

so we need affirmative action

2020-01-23 16:25:14 UTC

tbh

2020-01-23 16:25:17 UTC

what equality exists

2020-01-23 16:25:23 UTC

I think the Inquisition kill count is in the millions.

2020-01-23 16:25:27 UTC

what kind of equality can we prove exists in the human world

2020-01-23 16:25:27 UTC

because they are so fucking rational, so good a measuring and that's the end of their intellectual endevours

2020-01-23 16:25:35 UTC

i still havent heard a justification for anarcho-capitalism. How can someone believe in that. I mean sure anarchy will give rise to order at some point

2020-01-23 16:25:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/669940813719011349/9fdebb180a2e2348ddf1e17ddc1fd28b.png

2020-01-23 16:25:41 UTC

@Hector its 2500

2020-01-23 16:25:43 UTC

but how the fuck will anarchy and capitalism work

2020-01-23 16:25:46 UTC

that doesnt make any sense

2020-01-23 16:25:47 UTC

Anarcho-Capitalism isnt against order

2020-01-23 16:25:53 UTC

Its just the ordering is different

2020-01-23 16:25:59 UTC

chance to get burned as a witch was about 1.000.000 : 1

2020-01-23 16:26:09 UTC

can you explain how exactly

2020-01-23 16:26:10 UTC

@TuerSchlossEnteiser dang, i though it would be much higher

2020-01-23 16:26:11 UTC

The economic agents order themselves instead of central appointed or ordained authority which has monopolistic powers

2020-01-23 16:26:16 UTC

better try to becme metoo'ed

2020-01-23 16:26:20 UTC

and protestants don't forget protestants

2020-01-23 16:26:26 UTC

another british lie campaign

2020-01-23 16:26:27 UTC

gotta get rid of those

2020-01-23 16:26:29 UTC

Simple, its in their interests to order themselves

2020-01-23 16:26:30 UTC

Protestants are the chads.

2020-01-23 16:26:35 UTC

targeted at continental europe and the CC

2020-01-23 16:26:36 UTC

If people steal and kill and whatever

2020-01-23 16:26:44 UTC

Everyone will end up miserable

2020-01-23 16:26:53 UTC

But if we decide to not do these things, we will thrive

2020-01-23 16:26:53 UTC

So basically chaos, because anyone can go in your private property and kill you. There is 0 rules and there is no order

2020-01-23 16:26:57 UTC

Wrong

2020-01-23 16:26:59 UTC

Protestants recanted their schismatic nonsense screaming on the rack

2020-01-23 16:27:07 UTC

I think we know who the chads were

2020-01-23 16:27:08 UTC

Everyone has the right to wipe out anyone who goes into your property

2020-01-23 16:27:18 UTC

And people will band together to wipe out property violators

2020-01-23 16:27:24 UTC

Protestantism is literally due to the Black Plague and the elevation of European IQ. Protestantism is the product of the peak of European IQ.

2020-01-23 16:27:45 UTC

The government isnt a special entity that provides a protection aura, its their weapons

2020-01-23 16:27:46 UTC

As soon as the Black Plague ended, the Reformation happened.

2020-01-23 16:27:54 UTC

the weapons protect

2020-01-23 16:28:12 UTC

so give the property owners the weapons, and their specialized defense firms, perhaps they can band together in covenants for their own protection

2020-01-23 16:28:29 UTC

https://sciencefiles.org/2020/01/08/die-hexenverbrennung-war-fur-kirchen-virtue-signalling-marketing/?highlight=hexen


43.240 als Hexer/n angeklagte Menschen;
10.805 Hexenprozesse;
16.333 Menschen, die im Ergebnis hingerichtet werden;
Daten aus 21 europรคischen Lรคndern fรผr
den Zeitraum von 1300 bis 1850;
Informationen aus 37 Datenquellen;

2020-01-23 16:28:31 UTC

the men will coalesce into groups of power-to-deny-power aka states and your "private defense agency" will be a defacto govt yes very nice

2020-01-23 16:28:46 UTC

I do not think Big Ben is making any progress. He keeps leaving when I show up. :/

2020-01-23 16:28:49 UTC

43000 accusation, 10000 court cases and that over 500 years

2020-01-23 16:28:51 UTC

It wont have monopolistic powers, it wont be able to set the price and than compel you to pay up

2020-01-23 16:29:02 UTC

Thats the key difference

2020-01-23 16:29:07 UTC

And until that happens there will be a civil war where everyone kills someone and mafia members will run the streets killing everyone in their path

2020-01-23 16:29:14 UTC

"The defense agency"

2020-01-23 16:29:14 UTC

there will be no capitalism

2020-01-23 16:29:19 UTC

neither do states-to-federal gov't, especially if you adhere to rothbardian ethics, where blackmail isnt coercion

2020-01-23 16:29:23 UTC

Civil wars are to take over states

2020-01-23 16:29:37 UTC

States/Federal Govt sets the price of your protection

2020-01-23 16:29:39 UTC

the federal govt is merely blackmailing the states to pay some protection dues and follow federal law

2020-01-23 16:29:49 UTC

Thats without question

2020-01-23 16:29:50 UTC

well, so what? theyre not being forced

2020-01-23 16:29:51 UTC

yes

2020-01-23 16:29:55 UTC

they can secede anytime

2020-01-23 16:30:00 UTC

Lol

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(:

2020-01-23 16:30:04 UTC

but they blackmail monopolistically

2020-01-23 16:30:05 UTC

so bascially you have to be either half-med aka bavarian or a calvinist dutch to burn witches

2020-01-23 16:30:06 UTC

>The states can secede at any time

2020-01-23 16:30:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/669941954041085982/1579781309049.png

2020-01-23 16:30:13 UTC

They tried

2020-01-23 16:30:13 UTC

republican needs to be educated

2020-01-23 16:30:15 UTC

rothbard says blackmail isn't bad

2020-01-23 16:30:22 UTC

Technically

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and?

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touche libertard

2020-01-23 16:30:33 UTC

Blackmail is a border issue

2020-01-23 16:30:38 UTC

It doesnt directly violate the NAP

2020-01-23 16:30:45 UTC

yeah. so.

2020-01-23 16:30:47 UTC

hitler said to kill the jew

2020-01-23 16:30:50 UTC

only people with an IQ above 150 understand the democrats

2020-01-23 16:30:51 UTC

I hope trump is impeached

2020-01-23 16:30:51 UTC

federal states exist voluntarily

2020-01-23 16:30:51 UTC

But if you act on the blackmail with force

2020-01-23 16:30:57 UTC

Thats where the line is crossed

2020-01-23 16:30:58 UTC

@Chawosaurian At some point they will choose someone to run the state of the community

2020-01-23 16:31:13 UTC

They will arise naturally

2020-01-23 16:31:18 UTC

they have

2020-01-23 16:31:19 UTC

They will just not monopolize all power

2020-01-23 16:31:30 UTC

That was the mistake

2020-01-23 16:31:31 UTC

its a natural monopoly, its what we have

2020-01-23 16:31:39 UTC

Not really natural

2020-01-23 16:31:43 UTC

and?

2020-01-23 16:31:51 UTC

if it were more expedient* (economical) to have another the states can secede

2020-01-23 16:31:52 UTC

And does it have to be a monopoly at all

2020-01-23 16:31:58 UTC

they don't, so it's economical to keep it

2020-01-23 16:32:12 UTC

Cant the judges and the security just act in a fair competitive manner

2020-01-23 16:32:28 UTC

man, rothbardian ethics sucks i hate talking in it

2020-01-23 16:32:32 UTC

tfw statists literally admit to committing a naturalistic fallacy

2020-01-23 16:32:32 UTC

Which is the only way they will have any incentive to self-improve

2020-01-23 16:32:36 UTC

i hate that you take me seriously too lol

2020-01-23 16:32:58 UTC

the current judicial is pretty independent as is

2020-01-23 16:33:03 UTC

lol!

2020-01-23 16:33:03 UTC

Independent kek

2020-01-23 16:33:09 UTC

the very top isn't

2020-01-23 16:33:12 UTC

They are a state enforced monopoly

2020-01-23 16:33:19 UTC

but state level, local level are

2020-01-23 16:33:20 UTC

What about no morre

2020-01-23 16:33:35 UTC

well it wouldn't make much of a difference imo

2020-01-23 16:33:37 UTC

@Chawosaurian that's the better scenario xD

2020-01-23 16:33:46 UTC

Which

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The degenerative monopolistic scenario?

2020-01-23 16:33:58 UTC

Big Ben is back. : D

2020-01-23 16:33:58 UTC

they are a state payed and by thugs influenced monopoly

2020-01-23 16:34:01 UTC

at least here

2020-01-23 16:34:06 UTC

if people are too lazy to revolt and establish a fair system, because it isn't economical for them to do it now, it wouldn't be in a different system either

2020-01-23 16:34:13 UTC

a supply/demand deal isn't it

2020-01-23 16:34:25 UTC

people just aren't demanding justice enough

2020-01-23 16:34:29 UTC

Sure the monopolist may make it comfy enough for his subjects so they stay quiet

2020-01-23 16:34:33 UTC

@Ozpin88 btw, did you agree with me that epistemically, race is socially constructed?

2020-01-23 16:34:43 UTC

yes just as every word

2020-01-23 16:34:48 UTC

๐Ÿ‘

2020-01-23 16:34:57 UTC

That doesnt really say anything about anything

2020-01-23 16:34:58 UTC

the monopolist can push a bit

2020-01-23 16:35:07 UTC

He has his limit

2020-01-23 16:35:11 UTC

but only upto secession or revolutionary threat

2020-01-23 16:35:13 UTC

yeah

2020-01-23 16:35:19 UTC

Which is why its a general rule

2020-01-23 16:35:28 UTC

that every ruler needs popular support on his side to rule

2020-01-23 16:35:35 UTC

When talking about ethics, are you guys moral realist, nihilists, or subjectivists?

2020-01-23 16:35:49 UTC

This will continue until you get some odd post-humanist realms appaer

2020-01-23 16:35:56 UTC

Is Rothbard a moral realist?

2020-01-23 16:35:57 UTC

but it's like, everyone in every system will push for self interest, it's not like the PDA's don't or can't erect certain barriers of entry

2020-01-23 16:36:03 UTC

no more options?

2020-01-23 16:36:09 UTC

than the laws that usually apply to human affairs may start disintegrating

2020-01-23 16:36:13 UTC

everyone raises as much barriers they can to free-ride as much as they can

2020-01-23 16:36:29 UTC

@TuerSchlossEnteiser not really, they can all fit under those three categories, all the sub categories that is.

2020-01-23 16:36:29 UTC

There need to be automatic mechanisms to cull parasites

2020-01-23 16:36:41 UTC

Or minimize it

2020-01-23 16:36:45 UTC

yeah. well. propertarianism claims being able to do that.

2020-01-23 16:36:53 UTC

and im not gonna shill

2020-01-23 16:37:02 UTC

but anyway. rothbardian ethics isn't the solution lol

2020-01-23 16:37:11 UTC

Hoppe improved them anyway

2020-01-23 16:37:14 UTC

allowing blackmail isn't the solution ๐Ÿ˜’

2020-01-23 16:37:22 UTC

I am not a propertarian but propertarianism is probably the biggest brain you can get as a libertarian.

2020-01-23 16:37:35 UTC

Hoppe?

2020-01-23 16:37:38 UTC

wrong

2020-01-23 16:37:43 UTC

Hoppe, hoppe Reiter?

2020-01-23 16:37:47 UTC

lol no

2020-01-23 16:37:47 UTC

hoppe is an improvement yeah

2020-01-23 16:37:50 UTC

Wenn er fรคllt dann schreit er?

2020-01-23 16:37:53 UTC

german ethics

2020-01-23 16:37:54 UTC

Hoppe is the more based version

2020-01-23 16:37:54 UTC

voluntarism is the end of philosophy

2020-01-23 16:37:55 UTC

We disproved argument from agreement in epistemology lectures, but... I dont remember what the subject was about. There was a whole movement related to the social construct argument. Basically the professor was like "we agree that the sky is green.", "do you guys agree that the sky is green?" everyone said yes and he was like "alright the sky is green, we are done".

2020-01-23 16:37:58 UTC

And isnt a Jew

2020-01-23 16:38:02 UTC

unlike Rothbard

2020-01-23 16:38:19 UTC

Wait

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voluntary naziism

2020-01-23 16:38:32 UTC

There is someone with the same pfp as me. XD

2020-01-23 16:38:35 UTC

Hoppe is German Austrian

2020-01-23 16:38:36 UTC

who

2020-01-23 16:38:41 UTC

Basically there is no productivity at all in that argument

2020-01-23 16:38:44 UTC

@Walhalla you and I have the same pfp. Xd

2020-01-23 16:38:54 UTC

Welcome, brother.

2020-01-23 16:38:58 UTC

kek

2020-01-23 16:38:58 UTC

๐Ÿ‘€

2020-01-23 16:39:02 UTC

L O L

2020-01-23 16:39:11 UTC

Poor Hector and his clones

2020-01-23 16:39:19 UTC

Too many hectors

2020-01-23 16:39:20 UTC

It's one of my favorite art works based off the Illiad

2020-01-23 16:39:30 UTC

:based:

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i stole it from u

2020-01-23 16:39:36 UTC

Hector is one of my favorite literature pieces.

2020-01-23 16:39:37 UTC

there's a Hoppe Song!!!!

2020-01-23 16:39:44 UTC

Wait, I remember you now!!!

2020-01-23 16:39:47 UTC

lol

2020-01-23 16:39:59 UTC

That last pfp was ugly. I see you upgraded.

2020-01-23 16:40:01 UTC

tatat

2020-01-23 16:40:02 UTC

:glass\

2020-01-23 16:40:06 UTC

๐Ÿ˜Ž

2020-01-23 16:40:08 UTC

i like that picture too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/669944467960102942/2d3dc83aee706782.jpg

2020-01-23 16:40:13 UTC

but epistemology in general is fucking retarded. The basis for epistemology to accept anything is the correspondence theory of truth

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