really, you should be asking "why" nonstop

The same is true for the chinese.

see how far back you can go

Some fought, some didn't, some collaborated.

the Chinese had an organized state

its a totally incomparable situation

its shocking to me that you don't realize that

I'm talking about the Chinese communists as the antiimperialists here.

Forming an organized state is part of the antiimperialist struggle

well that's kind of a dumb position

Heard of burkina faso?

https://youtu.be/Gm2oq9eHi0g

https://youtu.be/mk5Dwg5zm2U

antiimperialists can just be a state which doesn't want to be conquered

They had an organized ML state. Lasted for a while before sankara was assassinated with the help of the US.

Qing China was 'antiimperialist

it has absolutely nothing to do with Marxism

Japan was 'antiimperialist' as far as Western Imperialism went

There were cases of organized anti-imperialist states in Africa.

lol

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Antiimperialism means all sources of it.

every empire is 'antiimperialist' with respect to other empires

lmfao

If the point you're trying to make is that Africa won't remain a shithole I don't think you're convincing anyone

WHO THE MOTHER FUCK CARES?

Antiimperialist means wrt to every other country.

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that is not the commonly understood definition of antiimperialist

btw

Japanese imperialism in China was not imperialist just bc they were anti Brit imperialism.

and its a very odd one

if all the chinese or african died tomarrow i would not care

life would go on

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look man

its very simple

To call one countries' imperialism antiimperialism is a very strange way to define antiimperialism.

Blacks suck - Nerthulas 2019

China was a developed civilization with longstanding state structures, with hundreds of millions in manpower, and advanced technology including metalworking and armory

Sub-saharan tribes were not

this is why China was able to resist imperialism

do the degree that it was

If you believe that European colonization benefitted Africa, then these places would have developed it.

what?

LOL

They would have had the advanced tech and metal workingn and armory.

what are you talking about?

its a troll

they didn't have it

The Europeans would have brought it over to Africa through colonization.

yes, they did

Africans failed to maintain it

And they will fail again

With China

The europeans would have also left some sort of state.

in many cases, they did fail to maintain it

Kek

So the Africans would have had all these things.

they certainly failed to maintain the state structures

just in time to finish coomtober:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkBUTheIC0

https://youtu.be/kGFWovUuWak

They failed because they could not resist imperialism after colonization.

Guess it was real

China could resist it after the Communist revolution.

IM COOOOOOOOOOOMIN

Why did America

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

I'll tell you why

Japan failed to resist imperialism as well, but was able to develop?

Cause they white

Africa's attempts at socialism failed, because it got crushed by the US and allies during the Cold War.

Lol

there is a difference between having millions of people and your own capital and cities developed over thousands of years to serve a regional empire, vs some tools that the europeans brought over for the express purpose of exploiting your country

Maybe their attempt at socialism failed because it always fails everywhere it’s tried

boomer take

that being said, they mostly squandered what we left them

probably because they have low IQs

@Nerthulas, unless the Euros took the tools with them...

you can't take a railroad

Then it's back to genetics.

its both

It is

But both is genes

sub-saharan africans are not good at creating or maintaining to a civilization, all it's trappings, and everything it entails, to the standards that other populations are capapble of. you can see this in the diaspora as well

@BabygottBach How was Japan able to develop even though they failed to resist imperialism?

Africa was geopolitically fucked for a revolution.

Japan resisted imperialism much more effectively than China did

@iippo, as a bulwark to commie china

it's so incredibly in your face

possibly longer @BabygottBach

the shortcomings

the organization needed to even achieve is lacking

yes, it just happens by accident that everywhere they are it succ

it's magic

Correct

No