Gospel of John identifies God as Logos ("The Word" in english) @Hector

They almost vote worse than Joos do

Legos

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I believe in God as an agent and as Christcucks do.

<:fbi:418878655822036994> Agent God

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I believe that the underlying truth is concious and eternal, even if that has yet to be proven I have historical reason to believe in such.

@Hector still undefined, you're gonna have to explain to me how god grounds your moral system

and even if you do I don't care because you have to solve is/ought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgV6zVxRsIc

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@Nerthulas The differences in our opinion is like you standing at the other side of the grand canyon, and I am trying to throw you a rope and convince you to consider crossing to my side.

He doesn't have to

He has solved the reproduction problem

Heaven/Hell

underlying truth is consciousness, that's true @StRexPowerColt

good observation

its just your consciousness tho

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my chemicals in my brain tell me theyre chemicals

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like, I think we need to continue this another time. The only want you and I can even get to an understanding is if we can keep talking and fully flesh out each others' ideas.

@Nerthulas The idea that it's just our's (personally) has not been proven.

Because like, you and I are like two different species

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/634367565304561675/639983237623447574/482992480648691732.gif

Well you might actually be genetically different from each other

its proven because that's the only perspective you can take, reality is modulated by your consciousness

Temperament is heritable

its not even intelligible without reference to your own consciousness

This is my moral foundations results.

ye not good

I took it twice.

@Nerthulas Litterally its not, reality exist if you and your couciousness dies or lives.

this is why u think the north is justified vs the souths wish to leave

I posted the second time I took it four months later.

SMDH

if it exists try to imagine it without reference to your own consciousness @StRexPowerColt

i would just be high loyalty and care and not care about the rest

@Nerthulas Personal ignorance is a falicly

why is it doing that?!?

you literally cannot imagine anything without reference to your own consciousness

u can try

you always take a perspective

Prove it

@ALternativeToLife this is my latest one that I took four months later. I took it only twice.

Maybe maybe not, @Nerthulas Prove it

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when you imagine 'nothingness' you are imagining looking at nothingness

Prove it

I dropped in care. Maybe, I really am autistic. AND I EVEN TRIED TO BE MORE CARING.

when you imagine the world after your death, you are imagining looking at it

because we can't imagine things in totality, only from a perspective

when I look at nothingness I look at a blank canvas

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Our perspective is absolute, we can’t move past it but that doesn’t mean that the world outside of our heads isn’t objective and real

Thats proof?

Not proof

Prove it

the proof is that its impossible

you can try

do it yourself

Prove its impossible

you ***always*** take a perspective when you imagine anything

Shit talker

Prove it

Sometimes the autism is too strong

I mean dissociation and ego death might do that

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@Nerthulas So can you imagine all the gas on Jupiter and how cold subzero temperature feels? Yes. Will it be accurate? No. Just because you lack the ability to understand something personally doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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He said "always" so its proved?

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*sip*

zoom zoom

Always

Nice try

@StRexPowerColt that's not what I mean, what I mean is that you imagine it in a human way - you imagine it with all the baggage of the human perspective, the way the human mind organizes information

<:boomer:639983474236850176> ***sip*** are you winning this debate son

(including looking at things from a perspective)

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Perspective = being human?

Dumb distinction

Exactly.

Meaningless

All humans are human, gotcha!!!

lol

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yep, all humans are human, all perspectives are modulated by the human information processing matrix

you got it

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