But idk alot of other ideologies besides the socialist ones can be said to be collectivist

anarchy is not the ultimate form of freedom

because without the law it is not conducive to economic activity

Not conducive =/= infringement. From a legal and political perspective lack of law will always be more free than law

how do you organize a society based on anarchy anyways

is it illegal to have laws

A society based on anarchy would essentially not even have the political infrastructure to have laws

but people can make their own local laws

or no

Thats why anarchism is stupid. When you remove the state people will in micro, remake the state

not the state

just law

You cant have laws without some form of proto state.

yes you can all you need is a court and a police force

and a prison

Eventually those little communities will out of self interest come together and you will have a big state again

Its not a stable form of existance

Anarchy is the worst political philosophy the only one I think might work is primitivism and that’s only because cave men did it

kek

anarchy is an interesting concept but it makes no sense in terms of nature

it is counter-intuitive

There’s probably a hundred different versions of anarchism

None would work

if theres even more than one version then it negates the meaning of the word

Exactly why you should stop being an anarcho-capitalist

theres no such thing

lol yes there is

no

dont send me a link because i am not going to read it

Why isn’t there such thing as ancaps

because capitalism likes law

and it likes courts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

guess what

you get a link anyways

haha

oh lawd

Have you heard of red market anarcho capitalism

🤮

sounds like a garage band

It’s literally ancaps but without the nap

No rules

Just money

Basically the dark web

black market is better than no market

Just sounds like actual anarchism + money

Who issues that by the way?

but anarchy and capitalism don't mix they are mutually exclusive

no they aren't

capitalism is just a form of economics

capitalism requires law to function

private property

land

labor

wages

capital

All of those things can function in the absence of law or in the excess of law.

go to africa

where there is no law

see how much capital they have created

Its not about efficiency

its still capitalistic

how can you have capitalism without capital

They create some stuff it doesn’t have to be good

Just because they suck at it doesnt make it not capitalism

at what point does capitalism stop being capitalism

if i make a rocking chair does it count

If you freely sell that rocking chair than yes

whoooooo

u win

Capitalism stops being capitalism when 1: the state removes the concept of private property
2: Trade is not allowed or only controlled by large entities thereby disallowing private trade
3: Money as a concept does not exist

sounds like trouble

I suppose if society was not based on money but some other commodity that could not be traded like money that would also count as not technically being capitalism

Thats probably why you cant classify pre-mercantilism society as capitalistic

because land was the basis for society and not money

kaufman didint know about ancaps?

i still dont get it

@𝐇𝖆𝖚𝖕𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖋𝖚𝖍𝖗𝖊𝖗 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZk6ia1vFAc

lol

I love that one

i dont believe anything about economics that doesnt exist IRL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCnDSXHpUd0
oh no its been debunked

I guess we got BTFOed guys

😢

Lmao google wiped the vote counts

No longer showing any votes

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What a day

A thought: if capitalism requires money, how can Anarcho-capitalism even exist? Yes ancaps are retarded, but this point doubly so

Currency requires a centralized state to issue, set and maintain the value of a currency

Then the Bank becomes the new government

Checks out

Mind you, a lot of capitalism is based on faulty logic too

XD

@NeoFuturist are you talking about me

I hope he doesn't slay me with his Invisible Hand Technique

@Skellington my friend says maybe they will release it for free.

Ancaps were in the wrong place and added Corporate Republicanism for the city state enthusiasts among us

There are many kinds of ancap so meh, not all are completely retarded