He just made this not long ago, so yes it is a slow process but he had told me all the things he's going to do and what he's going to add to this, s the wait is worth it trust me.

Patience is a Virtue is all i gotta add to it. <:ThinkAboutIt:612152461825933314>

want to listen @Deleted User

Sure @Jonathan The Shaman

join liberty lounge podcast vc

Give me a few, I'm watching YouTube it week be over in 20 minutes. But I'll definitely join once this is over kk?

Will*

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@coolbreeze recoding currently

@Ulithian

Almost ready @Deleted User

We’re getting close to being done

I'm coming

I just got done

@Deleted User come back

I find it amusing when people brag on mutualists when they're entire ideas basically minding their own business and kind of staying away from an-caps bulshit

Mutualists are ok.

if it's voluntary

Yeah, I know Mutualists that are perfectly happy to work with AnCaps

start running into trouble with the more dogmatic mutualists.

*sigh*

hold on

I have everyone blocking me for no reason

looney tunes highschool bullshit

Too many people giving a fuck.

The main point of conflict between AnCaps and Mutualists is the Labour Theory of Value and conditional property rights.

what is this bullshit

??

ffs this is elementary school level social interaction

*sigh* people need to grow up.. This is why I have a small circle of friends because of high school bs like that.

I don't know why it's so hard for people to just not rely on their lizard brain.

this is some major bullshit they're all doing it at once

I know.. And they think they are smarter then the average person..

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 7!

Whoohoo lvl 7!

Ss that this is happening alpha

I'm going to vc

@Ulithian I mean as long as you don't just straight-up abandoned shit for decades at a time expecting it to still be completely abandoned when you come back after those decades

how is conditional property rights really a problem?

got memed ; /

@SHEPARD D☭G Opens the door to coersion.

https://youtu.be/Qx5qDhm-zGE

@Ulithian no it doesn't you straight up abandoned something you simply abandoned it there's no application of force

Unless you write your phone number on every single candy wrapper beer can and any other Petty object you can think of then there's no way to even contact the original owner if someone wanted respect the property rights of abandoned items

Thus the conditional ownership makes far more sense then attempting to keep ownership permanently

Abandonment is one thing, using conditional property rights to legitimise theft of idle business is another.

an Owner Operator who fell sick is ripe to be exploited by conditional property rights.

You would consider it an exploitation of their labour

if workers just took his business from him.

@Ulithian wait for the mental gymnastics

@Ulithian there is no exploitation

If the property is abandoned then it's abandoned and clearly not desired by its original owner anymore

Those are the conditions that you think are repressive

@SHEPARD D☭G you completely ignored my argument.

That's because ignoring basic concepts is not an argument

How are you being coerced into giving up abandoned property when you have abandoned it?

Being sick and abandonment are completely different things

The only people who would try to coerce you for being sick would be some sort of Might is right authoritarian

Which is significantly different than someone rooting through your garbage can or cutting away some of the overgrown weeds to a spooky Mansion that was forgotten years ago

"ownership is legitimate only so long as it remains in use or occupation" that's my definition of mutualist property rights

I have only provided an example where this criteria could be met without abandonment.

"The only people who would try to coerce you for being sick would be some sort of Might is right authoritarian" regardless of system you will always have assholes try and take advantage of your situation.

Can you please @SHEPARD D☭G @Ulithian help you keep convos in topic specifics instead of liberty lounge, videos, etc. this is either <#612182185432055828> or <#612182055077412896>

Soon I will be making it to where video, memes, selfies, etc, are post only and no texting will be allowed to solve this problem

No worries

Mainly for him jot you

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@Ulithian your example of someone being sick makes the assumption that sick people are incapable of owning using an occupying anything

When illness does not actually inhibit your ability to live somewhere or use items

oof

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We don't actually care

We just think that it's inefficient

Personally I don't give a fuck

Imho there are cases where a co operatives structure makes more sense.

Unless you pull that theory of occupation then come steal my property cause I wasn't using

Can you defend it?

if yes, then occupancy is irrelevant

Co ops would do great for charities, rehabilitation centers, and businesses with similar requirements

@Jonathan The Shaman so basically any and all forms of Industry

Nope, r&d required businesses wouldn’t benefit the workers or consumers much as a co op

So take those out then maybe

Nice @Scorched 🌒 Regolith

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Sup

We need to talk about recording episode two, going to try to edit it with cake so we can upload ep one Monday

That will put us on schedule to start recording an episode ahead of upload schedule on mondays

Can this wait til tomorrow?

Friday will be the LCU content I’ve been writing out

And yes, Nikki’s off tomorrow

Okie

So just let us know our time when you’d be available and when we can talk about it beforehand

Sometime tomorrow after 1pm.

Our time?

Which i think im 7 hrs ahead of u

Okay, so earlier then later for us

Okay

I’ll let her know

@Jonathan The Shaman

"Nope, r&d required businesses wouldn’t benefit the workers or consumers much as a co op"

You need to actually explain how if you want anyone to believe this claim

The scientists and manufacturers actually being able to get together and have conversations and a meaningful say over what happens in production versus what's possible with production gives you a lot more Headway towards creating breakthroughs fan keeping them isolated and subject to dangling at the bottom of the command chain

( before you go off on some tangent this is assuming that the business develops and manufactures its own Goods instead of Outsourcing both aspects of the production)