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2019-06-11 23:40:50 UTC

sweet!

2019-06-11 23:40:52 UTC

learned something new

2019-06-11 23:40:57 UTC

word of the day`1

2019-06-11 23:41:02 UTC

NICE

2019-06-11 23:41:04 UTC

Me definitely

2019-06-11 23:41:07 UTC

Confirmed

2019-06-11 23:41:16 UTC

ima tell my girl that

2019-06-11 23:41:26 UTC

baby you make me uncephalized

2019-06-11 23:45:02 UTC

@Just for youtube [NB1]
Waiting for the call back.
@Big T
See, that's funny.

2019-06-11 23:46:11 UTC

Are you talking about writing safety courses off on taxes @Mandatory Carry?

2019-06-11 23:46:57 UTC

Happy to give credit to you on that part of your whole thing. I just don't want fees and fines for people who don't want in on your program.

2019-06-12 00:09:41 UTC

lol always douche beforehand and there wont be any excremenet

2019-06-12 00:19:06 UTC

@Just for youtube [NB1]
"The point made about a tax break for those that carry instead of a tax increase for those that dont is good."
No.

2019-06-12 00:22:52 UTC

@Legalize
*"Judge not lest ye be judged yourself; **And by the measure ye judge, so shalt ye* be *judged."***
So, unless a doctor says otherwise, I choose not to judge.

*EHEM;* If, on the other hand, you can get a currently practicing psychologist to corroborate your claim, I will yeild. I already conceed, however, that some dodomites are, in fact, mentally ill.
I'm one of them (PTSD).

2019-06-12 00:25:09 UTC

@Legalize youre referring to gay sex. i am not. dont have random gay sex with strangers and your chances of getting hiv drop to near zero

2019-06-12 00:25:09 UTC

๐Ÿ†™ | **BigTravis leveled up!**

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2019-06-12 00:25:53 UTC

not to mention wrap it up boys

2019-06-12 00:26:04 UTC

Yeah the STD problem isn't a biggie if you're behaving responsibly enough/don't get assaulted

2019-06-12 00:26:11 UTC

^

2019-06-12 00:26:27 UTC

and dont do drugs/share needles

2019-06-12 00:26:34 UTC

pretty basic stuff really

2019-06-12 00:26:44 UTC

Don't do drugs that require needles

2019-06-12 00:26:48 UTC

yea or that

2019-06-12 00:26:49 UTC

Problem solved :^)

2019-06-12 00:26:56 UTC

lol

2019-06-12 00:27:18 UTC

Oh and shared crack pipes are a no as well

2019-06-12 00:27:30 UTC

lol those burns

2019-06-12 00:27:33 UTC

But you know, still a lot of options open

2019-06-12 00:27:38 UTC

haha totes

2019-06-12 00:32:19 UTC

Gays would probably argue it's natural since the prostate is an erogenous zone.

2019-06-12 00:34:38 UTC

Now urethral sounds are truly disgusting shit.

2019-06-12 00:34:47 UTC

broooo

2019-06-12 00:34:54 UTC

seriously. i cant even see that shit

2019-06-12 00:35:08 UTC

its like youre sticking what where??

2019-06-12 00:51:40 UTC

I think homosexuality is something more of a developmental or genetic disorder. Humans are sexually dimorphic and itโ€™s obvious that heterosexual sex is necessary for reproduction. So it would follow that a deviation from heterosexuality would be a disorder.

2019-06-12 00:53:12 UTC

What if the species benefits from having non competing males?

2019-06-12 00:55:28 UTC

That's actually a pretty fair point @Beemann

2019-06-12 00:56:12 UTC

Historically a large portion of men had to either share prostitutes, fuck men, or be celibate if they weren't powerful.

2019-06-12 00:59:23 UTC

How does that address my point?

2019-06-12 00:59:38 UTC

Literally any disorder could fit that bill.

2019-06-12 01:00:34 UTC

Non interest is more cohesive, and paired partners operate better

2019-06-12 01:01:33 UTC

Ok. Humans are pretty split down the middle between males and females.

2019-06-12 01:01:50 UTC

Basically thereโ€™s a man for every woman.

2019-06-12 01:01:58 UTC

I don't think it is supposed to address your point @Salacious Swanky Cat other than that it could be viewed as an evolutionary strategy for survival over a strict disorder.

2019-06-12 01:02:05 UTC

Only if you're a robot

2019-06-12 01:02:21 UTC

Lol. Itโ€™s not an evolutionary strategy

2019-06-12 01:02:33 UTC

theres actually a computer science problem related to this

2019-06-12 01:02:38 UTC

Why would it be?

2019-06-12 01:02:43 UTC

Stable Marriage problem

2019-06-12 01:03:02 UTC

The same way cooperation is an evolutionary strategy

2019-06-12 01:03:26 UTC

Having a dedicated partner for life has a host of health benefits

2019-06-12 01:04:03 UTC

Yeah. Cool. I donโ€™t see how this makes homosexuality less a disorder.

2019-06-12 01:04:14 UTC

Depends on what you define a disorder as.

2019-06-12 01:04:33 UTC

Based on what I argued earlier

2019-06-12 01:04:51 UTC

But then anyone who doesn't have kids has a disorder

2019-06-12 01:04:58 UTC

Time for #enforcedmonogamy

2019-06-12 01:05:03 UTC

No. Not the case.

2019-06-12 01:05:37 UTC

Yeah without some form of enforced monogamy men tend to have multiple partners

2019-06-12 01:06:01 UTC

The point Iโ€™m arguing is that developing homosexuality is the result of a flaw in genetics or something happened during development.

2019-06-12 01:06:19 UTC

If anything, should we go based on pure instinct, we should all be fat and promiscuous

2019-06-12 01:06:46 UTC

Except we arenโ€™t

2019-06-12 01:06:57 UTC

Our brains are hardwired for fat and sugar, and men are not wired for mate selection in the same way we consider beneficial now

2019-06-12 01:07:10 UTC

Ok. So what.

2019-06-12 01:07:38 UTC

You havenโ€™t disproved my point.

2019-06-12 01:07:42 UTC

So on the basis of raw reproduction men should be polyamorous or promiscuous

2019-06-12 01:08:11 UTC

Not inherently because men are necessary to raise children

2019-06-12 01:08:20 UTC

No they're not

2019-06-12 01:08:22 UTC

Pump and dump is incorrect

2019-06-12 01:08:27 UTC

Yes they are.

2019-06-12 01:08:39 UTC

They are not necessary for raising children.

2019-06-12 01:08:56 UTC

They are extremely beneficial to their development, but not strictly necisarry

2019-06-12 01:09:33 UTC

Yes. Necessary.

2019-06-12 01:09:36 UTC

After the child is no longer dependant on a mother for sustenance the mother is not necessary either.

2019-06-12 01:09:50 UTC

Humans are social creatures.

2019-06-12 01:09:58 UTC

Necessary would mean that the child will not develop without both parents

2019-06-12 01:10:07 UTC

If we're going on raw reproductive viability a small number of men should bone most of the wahmen

2019-06-12 01:10:17 UTC

Thatโ€™s an assumption

2019-06-12 01:10:43 UTC

It's provable. Look at how promiscuity in the modern era has worked out

2019-06-12 01:10:50 UTC

Humans arenโ€™t the only long term monogamist creatures.

2019-06-12 01:10:53 UTC

Look at incels

2019-06-12 01:11:15 UTC

Promiscuity is bad.

2019-06-12 01:11:23 UTC

Thanks for agreeing

2019-06-12 01:11:26 UTC

Only in a western context

2019-06-12 01:11:30 UTC

On what basis? It optimizes chances for conception

2019-06-12 01:11:43 UTC

So if homosexuality is a 0, promiscuity is a 10

2019-06-12 01:11:53 UTC

Uh no.

2019-06-12 01:12:00 UTC

Why isn't it?

2019-06-12 01:12:10 UTC

It is for genetic repopulation.

2019-06-12 01:12:16 UTC

Because men participate in rearing the child.

2019-06-12 01:12:22 UTC

They don't have to

2019-06-12 01:12:23 UTC

Pump and dump is not good.

2019-06-12 01:12:23 UTC

Your Gene's have a much higher chance of survival by boning multiple women.

2019-06-12 01:13:01 UTC

Ok. And how does that address my point on homosexuality?

2019-06-12 01:13:02 UTC

Women benefit from a stable spouse far more than men do.

2019-06-12 01:13:05 UTC

It doesnโ€™t

2019-06-12 01:13:14 UTC

Because you don't agree with the position you named

2019-06-12 01:13:26 UTC

You don't actually hold reproductive capacity to be the be all end all

2019-06-12 01:13:36 UTC

So it's dishonest to use it to judge disorders

2019-06-12 01:13:37 UTC

@DJ_Anuz no shit. Women will select a mate who wants monogamy.

2019-06-12 01:13:50 UTC

They clearly don't do this normally

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