Poles love America

thats why you should be equal and not do their bidding to gain favor

you're probably not familiar with Kościuszko, but he's a famous national hero, he's started an uprising against Russia and Prussia(and got rekt kek but w/e), and prior to that he'd be fighting in the American Revolutionary War

>thats why you should be equal and not do their bidding to gain favor
>equals

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as part of europe I mean

eu should be equal

Poland can't be equal with a country that's uh 20 times stronger at very least

why not
if you have friendly relations

politics never work like that

you can have friendly, mutually beneficial relations, and for the sake of PR pretend you're "equal"

but it's an illusion

US will never care much about Poland 🤷

i am repeating myself, not just poland but the eu

which yu are part of

for now they'll defend us because they want to maintain their sphere of influence

>i am repeating myself, not just poland but the eu

what did EU do about Nord Stream?

what did the EU do about Polish presidential plane crush in Russia 🤷 ?

you were referring to us as of lowly slavs <:haha:318675605233336330>

dont hate on eu policy because you hate russia

that was a joke geez

if the *whip crack* didnt make it clear enough

some Poles don't think that the EU can replace US as the gurantee of their security

*some poles*

Poles are suspicious about Germans

our economic cooperation might be great but again *Nord Stream*

*some people* need to be forced to their luck

you think we're not trying to get something back in exchange for supporting the US

but consider that

dont let fickle morality and antagonsitic history stop you, seize the opportunity

the current Polish government is wary of further integration in the EU

they don't want the Germans to lead the continent

that's why they constantly fight with the EU

and hold back the integration

because we know we have some backing of the US

why do you always keep talking about polish people and the polish government dont have a will of your own?

I mean that's not my opinion I'm saying what our current right wing government does

what do yo ean

I noticed that you more often than not start with "some poles think" or "our government thinks"

instead of saying what you think should be done

I'd rather avoid simplistic statements like that tbh

btw I'm highly critical of the current Polish government in almost everything they do

than let that critical voice be heard

I don't think sucking off American cock is that beneficial especially in the way they do, they don't fucking get anything in exchange ffs

jesus this is what I am sayin all this tim

I don't want to get into details, you might or might not heard of the Polish-Israeli row about some Holocaust law, the thing is the US State Department immediately has backed the Israelis on this, also our government made a mistake of putting a fine on TVN(American owned liberal TV), which infuriatated the US State Departmend as well

so I kind of understand sucking off American cock

but at least be consistent and smart about that ffs...

didnt hear about hte law

only heard about the polish death camp thing

I don't think it got coverage in Germany

but when it was on, I actually got messaged by my friend from the US, like "whats about all these advertisement about Poles not being complicit in Holocaust kek"

cuz the Polish government was putting these kek

>dont let fickle morality and antagonsitic history stop you, seize the opportunity

no, no I'm not very moralistic myself tbh and I'm more into realpolitik, the thing is you can't ignore that it's relevant here

here people simply fucking care about that and are vocal about that and you can't shut them alll

I dont care about the averag fkn pole tho i want to talk to to you

I just wanted to put some things into the right context

so on what exactly you want to know my opinion about

yea thats cool and all but it feels like you sometimes evade

uuh

I forgot

mainly china

tbh I used to be so much into politics it's not that I'm even evading it's just I can go on and on and on

yeah but China in what context

in the context of China, world, EU, Poland? idk

eu and poland

mostly

but also in general

I mean I think its time we are starting to turn our heads toward the east a little more

take off the american shakels

meet the world at eye level

I think it's good for the world that it shifts from unipolar American domination to multipolar

China grew a lot they uplifted hundreds of millions from poverty and now their investments somewhat do that even outside of China

they invest in regions US and the EU wouldn't pay much attention

Chinese economic growth is impressive

agreed

but aht about their horrible horrible police state

look you might feel confused that I like China but I fucking despite Russia and all

the thing is China is far away <:haha:318675605233336330>

lel

I realise there are horrible human rights violations in China but nevertheless I'm not very critical towards the Communist Party of China, I think they are doing great job economically, and after all China is a civilisation on their own, I believe let them rule themselves on their own instead of forcing our beliefs onto them, after all you can compare "democratic" India to authoritarian China, democracy is great but you can't succesfully implement it without some other things I don't think democracy as of now can work well in China

and it's not like it's really that bad to live there, just don't be vocal about politics and the government doesn't really care about you

I didnt expect that answer at all

but I agree 100%

it's not some gulag like North Korea

yeah

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/20/europe-headache-what-can-we-do-about-trump-balkan-summitn-borders-eu

lol

@Ilias hey

where are you from?

DED

get over it

its alright

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uh, hi?

he alive?

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