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2020-01-21 15:52:20 UTC

But in the intellectual climate which we have succeeded in producing troughout Western Europe you needn't bother about that. Only learned read old book and we have now so dealt with the learned that they that they are of all men the least likely to acquire wisdom by doing so. We have done this by inculcating thr Historical Point of View, put briefly, means that when a learned man is presented with any statement in an ancient author, the one question he never asks is wether it is true. He asks who influenced the ancient writer, and how far the statment is consistent with what he said in earlier books, ... To regard the ancient writer as apossible source for knowledge -to to anticipate that what he said could possibly modyfy your thoughts and behavior- this would be rejected as unutterably simple-minded

2020-01-21 15:52:42 UTC

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From the screwtape letters by c.s Lewis

2020-01-21 16:03:21 UTC

Well yeah, because society becomes more progressive the more technologies develop that make harsh rules superficially unnecessary

2020-01-21 16:04:07 UTC

So whenever they look back more than a few decades the person is now outside of the overton window

2020-01-21 16:05:29 UTC

at least this is one of the reasons, I think

2020-01-21 16:06:26 UTC

were all of the channels nuked or something?

2020-01-21 16:06:34 UTC

yeah

2020-01-21 16:07:00 UTC

precaution against current antifa infiltration attempts

2020-02-01 20:07:48 UTC

Based

2020-02-01 20:10:12 UTC

@Skellington what book is that?

2020-02-01 20:10:17 UTC

idk

2020-02-01 20:10:25 UTC

i found the pic on another server

2020-02-01 20:10:38 UTC

Oh

2020-02-01 20:13:41 UTC

>Nietzsche was a coomer

2020-02-01 20:13:48 UTC

πŸ€”

2020-02-01 20:19:23 UTC

Nietzsche was bloody weird

2020-02-01 20:49:55 UTC

<:pepe_down:662852278830628923>

2020-02-01 20:54:46 UTC

Why would he try to bullshit people he was Polish? Or was that a symbolic thing of some sort?

2020-02-01 20:57:57 UTC

Nietzsche was German

2020-02-01 20:59:12 UTC

I know, but he claimed on multiple occasions he hailed from Poland which is pure nonsense

2020-02-01 20:59:59 UTC

Didn’t know that

2020-02-01 21:04:41 UTC

As to his coomerism that would be in line with the hypothesis that he contracted syphilis.

2020-02-01 21:06:13 UTC

Imagine getting syphilis

2020-02-01 21:07:27 UTC

lol

2020-02-01 21:08:10 UTC

Imagine getting syphilis and letting it develop into neural stage

2020-02-01 21:09:29 UTC

Imagine going insane and dying from an std

2020-02-01 21:09:41 UTC

nietsche died of an std?

2020-02-01 21:09:51 UTC

i thought he was an incel

2020-02-01 21:10:58 UTC

There’s a theory that he got an std (syphilis) from a prostitute

2020-02-01 21:11:34 UTC

god stuck him down

2020-02-01 21:11:38 UTC

poetic

2020-02-01 21:14:22 UTC

I'm starting to think that the rescue your father from the underworld schtick is just a massive cope cause all of JBP's intellectual role models were fucked

2020-02-01 21:16:10 UTC

Every man has some cope.

2020-02-01 21:17:14 UTC

With creators (be it artist, philosophers or other) it's just more apparent since they leave part of themselves in their own creation.

2020-02-01 21:17:33 UTC

Coping is not necessarily a bad thing.

2020-02-01 21:20:36 UTC

I know, it's tongue and cheek. I'm probably the biggest defender of that tradition here.

2020-02-26 19:11:52 UTC

https://youtu.be/zsDwFGz0Okg talks about some hints for consciousness in sperm whales

2020-02-27 20:08:58 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKFhbHwaVFE&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=OBxO-Rs4irbvvK6a%3A6 Is altering your child genetic code without their consent moral?

2020-02-27 20:21:57 UTC

depends on what you are doing it for

2020-02-27 20:22:07 UTC

if you are changing their sex

2020-02-27 20:22:08 UTC

no

2020-02-27 20:22:18 UTC

but otherwise perhaps

2020-02-27 20:52:35 UTC

Unless it's for removal of hereditary diseases people should not play God, especially with their own children.

2020-02-27 20:58:35 UTC

Nothing wrong with higher intelligence and whatnot

2020-02-29 19:02:38 UTC

it seems to me like either everything is permitted or none of it is

2020-03-03 09:04:24 UTC

Can i get some thoughts on Curtis Yarvins "clear pill"?

2020-03-03 13:17:54 UTC

i guess not

2020-03-03 13:29:05 UTC

haven't read it in depth enough to give any solid opinion

2020-03-03 13:32:51 UTC

well i have many questions about it but there were some truths in there

2020-03-03 13:33:11 UTC

as of right now i have only read part 1

2020-03-03 13:33:23 UTC

i am wondering where this is going

2020-03-03 13:33:39 UTC

he seems to advocate apoliticism

2020-03-03 13:34:55 UTC

why would he do that?

2020-03-03 13:38:22 UTC

I think I read it but I cant remember what it was about? That's part of his new stuff right? Are the other parts already released?

2020-03-03 13:39:56 UTC

i only saw part 1 and 2

2020-03-03 13:40:38 UTC

yes its new

2020-03-03 13:41:18 UTC

Fuck this wasn't to long ago I don't remember anything.

2020-03-03 13:43:24 UTC

he talks about the stories we tell ourselves about us and how they can stabilize a political regime

2020-03-03 13:44:05 UTC

and he says he will nuke your current understanding of politics

2020-03-03 13:44:30 UTC

ill be the judge of that after reading the other parts

2020-03-03 13:45:03 UTC

Oh yeah two story state and so on I remember some of that.

2020-03-03 13:46:32 UTC

Like china and north korea are a one story state because eveyone has to believe in the party doctrine. The west is a two story state (or three) trapping you into a false dichotomy

2020-03-03 13:47:03 UTC

well more or less, yeah

2020-03-03 13:47:19 UTC

im not sure how accurate it is

2020-03-03 13:48:39 UTC

I think I will read part 2 later I didn't know it was already out.

2020-03-03 13:51:20 UTC

i guess we are outside of the overton bubble and threaten the whole regime unless they can brand us as na zis and have those be an indicator for evil person, which makes people dismiss us along with our true ideas. and they are doing that. but if we can break through those surface level insults then we are a legitimate danger to the regime

2020-03-03 13:51:34 UTC

it came out in november

2020-03-03 13:51:47 UTC

i will read it later today i guess

2020-03-03 13:52:49 UTC

So we are the third story.

2020-03-03 13:53:06 UTC

That no one is supposed to listen to maybe.

2020-03-03 13:53:07 UTC

what i just wrote there, and what yarvin wrote in that regard, are not new ideas though. my mind has not been blown yet

2020-03-03 13:53:43 UTC

we knew for a long time we are outside the overton window

2020-03-03 13:54:44 UTC

and that our ideas are true and will win in a free market of ideas so have to be repressed by the regime which is threatened by them

2020-03-03 14:56:01 UTC

@Fighting Gold its not much different from his original work. i think he is sort of reiterating his 8 year old blog for a new audience

2020-03-03 16:58:57 UTC

that would be a good idea, even fewer people read blogs in current year

2020-03-04 22:45:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668911109562040371/684894233001197608/image0.jpg

2020-03-04 22:45:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668911109562040371/684894240056279059/image0.jpg

2020-03-04 22:45:32 UTC

β€œThe wanting of what may be lost”

2020-03-07 19:55:39 UTC

I am beginning to like the idea of protectionism

2020-03-07 19:56:09 UTC

for certain countries

2020-03-07 19:57:02 UTC

small countries where its cheaper to buy everything from other countries

2020-03-07 19:59:16 UTC

export whatever you can but dont import anything you dont really need

2020-03-07 20:01:36 UTC

unless you have the luxury of being high in exports, produce your own food

2020-03-07 20:15:39 UTC

Protectionism is good

2020-03-07 20:16:49 UTC

^

2020-03-07 20:44:39 UTC

I don't think a country like Singapore could be protectionist

2020-03-07 20:45:19 UTC

The policies only really work if you have a large enough domestic market/demand to creat a manufacturing base

2020-03-07 20:57:25 UTC

It is always a trade off. You trade some money or access to better products for a more independent economy.
Division of labor works across borders but if you are too specialized a little virus boy and a few closed ports can kill you. All the money you made by not being protective isn't going to help you in that case.
I see protectionism as insurance if we look purely at the material side.

2020-03-07 21:00:38 UTC

The larger you domestic market is the smaller are the consequences of protectionism. This is why china can pull off a level of protection that most smaller countries could not.

2020-03-07 21:01:58 UTC

I actually disagree with the division of labour applying to national economies

2020-03-07 21:03:42 UTC

There's economies of scale yes but that runs into diminishing returns (and the few cents you save in part are due to just using cheaper labour or less regulated markets)

2020-03-07 21:04:36 UTC

If you have a large market like the EU or America you are very much capable of not importing manufactured products without much of a downside

2020-03-07 21:05:21 UTC

But it's nor like free trade has relied on specialization in that sense to jsutify itself

2020-03-07 21:05:45 UTC

Smith and Ricardo were relying on comparative and absolute advantage in production

2020-03-07 21:06:03 UTC

Somehow magically some countries are just better at producing something

2020-03-07 21:06:19 UTC

Therefore they should specialize in what they have an advantage

2020-03-07 21:06:29 UTC

It's really retarded when you think about it

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