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2019-08-30 18:09:44 UTC

you know, uncertainty principle, conservation of angular momentum, 2nd law of thermodynamics

2019-08-30 18:09:47 UTC

laws of physics

2019-08-30 18:10:24 UTC

@Alric the Bretwalda did you not pay attention in middle school

2019-08-30 18:10:32 UTC

Ha!

2019-08-30 18:10:43 UTC

ok

2019-08-30 18:10:46 UTC

?

2019-08-30 18:11:30 UTC

Newton's laws were refuted by Einstein's, so his theory turned out not to be a law, but a brilliantly conceived recreation.

2019-08-30 18:12:03 UTC

And Einstein's theory is one that demands empirical testing.

2019-08-30 18:12:27 UTC

Am I truly a material body subject to ''laws of physics''?

2019-08-30 18:12:38 UTC

Newtonian physics work perfectly well, and are still used today

2019-08-30 18:12:42 UTC

especially here on Earth

2019-08-30 18:12:51 UTC

They're only a model, not a law.

2019-08-30 18:12:56 UTC

And they have been refuted.

2019-08-30 18:13:24 UTC

And what about quantum theory? Perhaps it can predict how much strawberry icecream I will have over chocolate in a year.

2019-08-30 18:13:26 UTC

what the fuck are you even talking about

2019-08-30 18:13:29 UTC

But can it know what I will pick tonight?

2019-08-30 18:13:35 UTC

do you even know what general relativity is?

2019-08-30 18:13:42 UTC

Why should we suppose there are such things as โ€œlaws of physicsโ€?
Does physics account for the totality of reality?
Is a scientific law anything other than a clever creation of the human mind?

2019-08-30 18:13:57 UTC

calm the fuck down lmao

2019-08-30 18:14:01 UTC

do you or do you not know

2019-08-30 18:14:04 UTC

what general relativity is

2019-08-30 18:14:22 UTC

General relativity is a description of gravity

2019-08-30 18:14:29 UTC

it does not come into conflict with Newtons laws

2019-08-30 18:14:39 UTC

"So, perhaps he means the Theory of Relativity. Can that theory predict whether Iโ€™ll choose pistachio or strawberry ice cream next Sunday? Well, according to that theory, every body follows a โ€œworld lineโ€ in space-time, so presumably a physicist could compute my world line and predict which flavour I will choose. But another minuteโ€™s thought will convince you that what we have is not a โ€œlaw of physicsโ€, but rather a hypothesis that demands empirical testing. So far, at any rate, no one has computed my world-line, indeed, no one has even proposed how that could possibly be done. Hence, until there is an experiment that can be tested, it is premature to consider it a law of physics. Furthermore, another minuteโ€™s reflection will open up this question: am โ€œIโ€ truly a material body subject to laws of physics? Yes, I certainly am a material body, but does that exhaust who or what I am? It appears that the laws of physics simply assume I am nothing but a material object, rather than prove it. Therefore, it cannot be the Theory of Relativity."

2019-08-30 18:14:44 UTC

it does however, come into conflict with Newton's idea of absolute space and absolute time

2019-08-30 18:14:57 UTC

oh great a copy paste

2019-08-30 18:15:46 UTC

Let me know when you're ready to start a new topic, dummy.

2019-08-30 18:16:03 UTC

what the hell about this do you not understand?

2019-08-30 18:16:16 UTC

@Alric the Bretwalda again, do you even know what general relativity is

2019-08-30 18:17:03 UTC

General relativity does not predict what fucking ice cream you want

2019-08-30 18:17:23 UTC

yes, Newton's theory of gravity was wrong

2019-08-30 18:17:30 UTC

his other laws of physics were correct

2019-08-30 18:18:45 UTC

Newton's theory of gravity assumes absolute space and absolute time

2019-08-30 18:18:57 UTC

general relativity proved relative space and relative time

2019-08-30 18:19:25 UTC

This shit article is talking about quantum gravity

2019-08-30 18:19:47 UTC

quantum gravity is a currently undeveloped field theory of gravity

2019-08-30 18:19:58 UTC

in other words, it is a description of how gravity works in the quantum world

2019-08-30 18:20:16 UTC

@Alric the Bretwalda general relativity works perfectly fine

2019-08-30 18:20:27 UTC

it has made astonishingly accurate predictions about our universe

2019-08-30 18:20:35 UTC

it just has a limit to where it can be used

2019-08-30 18:20:46 UTC

and one of these limits is in the quantum world

2019-08-30 18:21:58 UTC

Newtonian mechanics is only an approximation and break down at high speeds.

2019-08-30 18:22:15 UTC

Thus as stated before they are not ''laws'', just a well crafted recreation of the human mind.

2019-08-30 18:22:37 UTC

what point are you trying to make?

2019-08-30 18:22:57 UTC

You call them ''laws of physics'' and enshrine with a throne of infallibility.

2019-08-30 18:23:23 UTC

Well general relativity has not been wrong yet

2019-08-30 18:23:30 UTC

neither has quantum field theory

2019-08-30 18:23:36 UTC

or the standard model

2019-08-30 18:23:51 UTC

You've clearly been influenced by scientism like so many other people.

2019-08-30 18:24:20 UTC

scientism is the satanic belief that we should make observations then come to conclusions that can accurately predict future observations

2019-08-30 18:24:24 UTC

lmao

2019-08-30 18:24:39 UTC

Why should we suppose there are such things as โ€œlaws of physicsโ€?
Does physics account for the totality of reality?
Is a scientific law anything other than a clever creation of the human mind?

2019-08-30 18:24:47 UTC

you sound like one of them

2019-08-30 18:24:49 UTC

geocentrist

2019-08-30 18:24:50 UTC

s

2019-08-30 18:24:52 UTC

or flat earthers

2019-08-30 18:25:02 UTC

I'm not a flat earther.

2019-08-30 18:25:08 UTC

what about geocentrist?

2019-08-30 18:25:44 UTC

I'm not a geocentrist either. I don't see how any of that is relevant.

2019-08-30 18:25:49 UTC

just curious

2019-08-30 18:25:51 UTC

anyways

2019-08-30 18:25:57 UTC

these laws would still exist if humans were not around

2019-08-30 18:26:11 UTC

the 1rst law of thermodynamics would still apply, for example

2019-08-30 18:27:03 UTC

you see, laws are simply statements of patterns we observe in nature

2019-08-30 18:27:11 UTC

one such pattern is that energy is never created or destroyed

2019-08-30 18:27:14 UTC

its only transferred

2019-08-30 18:27:44 UTC

this is not dependent on the existence of humans, or eve human observation.

2019-08-30 18:27:55 UTC

It is a feature of our universe

2019-08-30 18:29:21 UTC

@Alric the Bretwalda is this making sense?

2019-08-30 18:31:37 UTC

What is the role of science divorced from metaphysics?

2019-08-30 18:32:20 UTC

what

2019-08-30 18:32:45 UTC

You cannot tell me the difference between a fact and a truth.

2019-08-30 18:32:57 UTC

those seem synonymous

2019-08-30 18:33:28 UTC

Talk to you later, gumball.

2019-08-30 18:33:47 UTC

lmao

2019-08-30 18:42:49 UTC

Could I have a TL:DR summary of what happened here?

2019-08-30 19:09:45 UTC

tl;dr he was a retard

2019-08-30 22:48:11 UTC

@everyone: Daily Question
If you were given free reign to fix/improve the healthcare system what would you do?

2019-08-30 22:48:28 UTC

Make it free.

2019-08-30 22:48:29 UTC

Make it so you have to work

2019-08-30 22:48:32 UTC

Healthcare for all

2019-08-30 22:48:39 UTC

Free healthcare for all

2019-08-30 22:48:43 UTC

Make it to free by making everyone work.

2019-08-30 22:48:51 UTC

free healthcare for all active workers

2019-08-30 22:49:26 UTC

If you pax taxes then you get free healthcare

2019-08-30 22:49:50 UTC

@AX(e) thats the best idea i ever heard

2019-08-30 22:49:53 UTC

Ovens for the sick like auschwitz

2019-08-30 22:49:58 UTC

we can literally let lazy people die off

2019-08-30 22:50:10 UTC

Ovens for every non-white

2019-08-30 22:50:28 UTC

white jews

2019-08-30 22:50:40 UTC

Jews ain't even human

2019-08-30 22:50:48 UTC

Hellcare

2019-08-30 22:51:09 UTC

Hellcare for the kikes and negroes

2019-08-30 22:53:06 UTC

<:bruh:591181809493082113>

2019-08-30 22:55:28 UTC

Free healthcare is shit. Take it from someone who lives with it.

2019-08-30 23:04:38 UTC

In order to afford free healthcare society needs slavery.

2019-08-30 23:05:20 UTC

Take your pick. Pay to play or Pay to win.

It just means that the rich need to be taxed more on average than the poor (in America)

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