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2019-09-09 23:40:22 UTC

Donโ€™t forget about the socially conservative mass shooters in the Middle East.

2019-09-09 23:40:23 UTC

capitalism

2019-09-09 23:40:32 UTC

capitalism gay

2019-09-09 23:40:34 UTC

tbh The only left wing mass shooter Iโ€™ve hearf about is that bernie guy and that Guy who shot up the country concert

2019-09-09 23:40:36 UTC

Nope lately the majority of shooters are white supremacist, usually right wing

2019-09-09 23:40:38 UTC

because nobody said shooters *in America*

2019-09-09 23:40:42 UTC

@Deleted User i **nutt** to that

2019-09-09 23:40:47 UTC

@Maksim I think we passed capitalism like an hour ago. ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-09-09 23:40:50 UTC

white supremacist? I can only think of 2

2019-09-09 23:40:58 UTC

@Attika But look at all these new folk

2019-09-09 23:40:59 UTC

Yeah...not likely.

2019-09-09 23:41:06 UTC

Dylan roof is like one I can name

2019-09-09 23:41:08 UTC

@Silver facts or it didnโ€™t happen.

2019-09-09 23:42:19 UTC

@Silver did you know that they dont report drive by shootings as mass shootings?

2019-09-09 23:42:33 UTC

they are reported as ''gang warfare''

2019-09-09 23:42:58 UTC

i wonder what sort of demographics we would see if they were included?

2019-09-09 23:42:59 UTC

No because if they did...BLM would be racking up so many mass shootings even they couldnโ€™t not do anything.

2019-09-09 23:43:47 UTC

@Deleted User El Paso, Christchurch, Pittsburgh

2019-09-09 23:43:48 UTC

Anyway it's late for me, let's continue this in a couple hours

2019-09-09 23:43:52 UTC

How many people die in Drive bys on average for it count as a โ€œmass shootingโ€

2019-09-09 23:44:05 UTC

None

2019-09-09 23:44:13 UTC

They arenโ€™t considered mass shootings

2019-09-09 23:44:15 UTC

There you go, 3

2019-09-09 23:44:19 UTC

Out of how many?

2019-09-09 23:44:20 UTC

Mass shootings are 3 people getting shot.

2019-09-09 23:44:44 UTC

Drive bys, 30 people could die and itโ€™s still a drive by.

2019-09-09 23:44:53 UTC

@Deleted User I only said three because you said you could only think of two. This is your motivation to go look and see how many more you missed.

2019-09-09 23:44:53 UTC

@DrRisen Many of them were motivated to shoot out of incel ideology, not white supremacy

2019-09-09 23:45:01 UTC

Iโ€™m not your babysitter mate.

2019-09-09 23:45:02 UTC

One of the shooters, forgot who - was half asian

2019-09-09 23:45:03 UTC

I'm looking now

2019-09-09 23:45:10 UTC

There's not many

2019-09-09 23:45:17 UTC

Incels...

2019-09-09 23:45:19 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-09-09 23:45:28 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/620766760165048323/476456.png

2019-09-09 23:45:51 UTC

@Silver This does not show shootings directly motivated by white supremacy

2019-09-09 23:45:52 UTC

damn we trail right behind whites

2019-09-09 23:45:56 UTC

Leaving with this

2019-09-09 23:45:58 UTC

@Maksim Motivation is irrelevant. He asked about shootings done by white supremacists, not shootings motivated by white supremacy.

2019-09-09 23:45:59 UTC

put that in per 100,000 @Silver

2019-09-09 23:46:17 UTC

the numbers are fairly proportional for whites it seems

2019-09-09 23:46:30 UTC

@DrRisen Then show me done by white supremacists, - and even then if they are white supremacist it is irrelevant

2019-09-09 23:46:31 UTC

Not all whites are white supremacists

2019-09-09 23:46:42 UTC

we know

2019-09-09 23:46:50 UTC

@Deleted User You donโ€™t say Doctor Watson?

2019-09-09 23:46:51 UTC

So what does the graph prove

2019-09-09 23:46:55 UTC

If a shooter is white supremacist, it dosent matter

2019-09-09 23:46:57 UTC

Just most of the shooters are

2019-09-09 23:46:58 UTC

Literally does not matter

2019-09-09 23:47:02 UTC

I mean if we are bringing race into it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/620767153578049556/image0.png

2019-09-09 23:47:04 UTC

What matters is motiviation

2019-09-09 23:47:15 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-09-09 23:47:31 UTC

most American shooters are white because most Americans are white @Silver

2019-09-09 23:47:42 UTC

huh

2019-09-09 23:47:44 UTC

weird

2019-09-09 23:47:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/620767354720223242/image0.jpg

2019-09-09 23:47:54 UTC

@Deleted User not for long sadly

2019-09-09 23:47:57 UTC

How bout this one?

2019-09-09 23:48:22 UTC

ideology is important

2019-09-09 23:48:25 UTC

@Maksim It absolutely does. If being a white supremacist and the motivation are put in a Venn diagram and come out as almost a perfect circle youโ€™ve got yourself a warning sign.

2019-09-09 23:48:28 UTC

in a mass shooting

2019-09-09 23:48:35 UTC

@DrRisen Irrelevant

2019-09-09 23:48:38 UTC

pfff blacks are 13% of the pop and kill more whites then whites kill blacks

2019-09-09 23:48:40 UTC

thats epic

2019-09-09 23:48:43 UTC

Not really but ok.

2019-09-09 23:49:02 UTC

@DrRisen Then motivation matters, you said it motivation dosent matter its the white supremacy

2019-09-09 23:49:13 UTC

Blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 67 percent of violent crimes

2019-09-09 23:49:23 UTC

@DrRisen If a shooter is a white supremacist - it dosent matter, it only matters if it is the motivation

2019-09-09 23:49:26 UTC

@Maksim Because he didnโ€™t ask for motivation.

2019-09-09 23:49:33 UTC

He said that the person you asked didnโ€™t ask for motivation

2019-09-09 23:49:36 UTC

Now that weโ€™re discussing motivation it does.

2019-09-09 23:49:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/620767884519538751/unknown.png

2019-09-09 23:50:08 UTC

@DrRisen Asking for a list of white supremacist shooters is extremely misleading and irrelevant - only the motivation matters

2019-09-09 23:50:19 UTC

To be fair, if a white supremist does commit a crime it will probably be a terror attack

2019-09-09 23:50:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/620768025393758238/image0.png

2019-09-09 23:50:39 UTC

Take an incel and white suprmacist - an incel is far more likely to shoot

2019-09-09 23:50:43 UTC

Or assault/murder

2019-09-09 23:50:56 UTC

Most white advocates obey the law

2019-09-09 23:51:16 UTC

^

2019-09-09 23:51:19 UTC
2019-09-09 23:51:44 UTC

@Deleted User What I mean by that screenshot is that I already consider Muslim extremism a serious problem.

2019-09-09 23:51:54 UTC

Whites are the most law abiding group in the US I believe. Except maybe Asians. (NOTE: I donโ€™t have any proof on me)

2019-09-09 23:52:15 UTC

Muslims should be illegal

2019-09-09 23:52:19 UTC

Based

2019-09-09 23:52:26 UTC

I heard 3% of the Black Population does all that crime stuff

2019-09-09 23:52:39 UTC
2019-09-09 23:52:45 UTC

no

2019-09-09 23:52:46 UTC

This is where I think Government should step in on religion.

2019-09-09 23:52:56 UTC

thatโ€™d be the entire population of blacks

2019-09-09 23:52:57 UTC

Blacks are 13% of the population, but commit 50% of violent crime @DoobyCooby

2019-09-09 23:53:01 UTC

Islam is a cancer.

2019-09-09 23:53:07 UTC
2019-09-09 23:53:14 UTC

And not every black commits a crime

2019-09-09 23:53:35 UTC

@DoobyCooby We make policies based on the majority not the minority

2019-09-09 23:53:42 UTC

Eh.

2019-09-09 23:53:45 UTC

I donโ€™t fuck with freedom of religion. A very wise man once said "those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

@Attika And for context this is coming from an atheist of all people.

2019-09-09 23:53:48 UTC

I think you'll find a higher percent of the black population commits comes compared to whites

2019-09-09 23:53:51 UTC

apparently 3% of the total black population does all that crime

2019-09-09 23:53:52 UTC

the point of the graph was to show the 100,000 rate of extremist murders
there isnt really a problem with whites if we look at it in terms of proportion @DrRisen

2019-09-09 23:53:58 UTC

@DrRisen Jesus Christ

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