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2019-07-12 04:11:17 UTC

but compared to cigarettes, proving 5g has issues is like childs play

2019-07-12 04:11:25 UTC

too many factors/variables

2019-07-12 04:11:39 UTC

weve had internet and wifi for so long with no actual provable bad results, literally the same thing for internet ver. 5.0

2019-07-12 04:11:48 UTC

(Even now cigs are still mostly circumstantial evidence.)

2019-07-12 04:11:48 UTC

Pence slipped when he said that. i thought the slip up interesting

2019-07-12 04:12:02 UTC

most shit attributed to internet sickness is self diagnosed vague shit

2019-07-12 04:12:32 UTC

Godd Howard, that is the problem. You can't compare HAVING internet to NOT having internet

2019-07-12 04:12:33 UTC

Quantum Jews

2019-07-12 04:12:35 UTC

oh god

2019-07-12 04:12:40 UTC

so i don't see how you can make that claim

2019-07-12 04:12:53 UTC

it's called 'the measurement problem'

2019-07-12 04:13:04 UTC

thats false equivocation

2019-07-12 04:13:12 UTC

you effect that what you are trying to measure by taking the measurment

2019-07-12 04:13:22 UTC

you cant tie current era problems to having internet

2019-07-12 04:13:27 UTC

gg logical problems

2019-07-12 04:13:29 UTC

without actual solid proof

2019-07-12 04:13:49 UTC

how can you NOT 'tie the current era with having the internet'?

2019-07-12 04:14:03 UTC

you might as well say the WW2 peace era increased autism rates because the numbers coincided

2019-07-12 04:14:12 UTC

hey man

2019-07-12 04:14:14 UTC

Being a Hoosier from Indiana I can say that him leaving and being VP has probably improved Indiana at least a little bit.

2019-07-12 04:14:30 UTC

the current era IS the internet... everything that is everything relies on what the internet provides.. connectivity

2019-07-12 04:14:44 UTC

i didn't say that

2019-07-12 04:14:58 UTC

i said that you cannot SEPERATE the two factors

2019-07-12 04:15:16 UTC

it's a falisification problem

2019-07-12 04:15:21 UTC

you still need to prove that problems now are tied to the internet other than a vague sense of "bad things happen in this era and therefore internet caused it"

2019-07-12 04:15:33 UTC

'falsification problem'

2019-07-12 04:15:53 UTC

you do understand what 'falsification' is in regards to an experiment, right?

2019-07-12 04:16:19 UTC

anyone with a link to the question and answer part of the Social Media Summit? it got cut off in all the videos posted on youtube I tried (many)

2019-07-12 04:16:31 UTC

What if 5g doubt is a pentagon psyop to weaken Chinese influence.

2019-07-12 04:17:05 UTC

well, it IS concerning they can use the transmitters for real-time 3d mapping as well as sonic crowd control

2019-07-12 04:17:05 UTC

I mean FBI browses 4chan

2019-07-12 04:17:50 UTC

privacy? they know when you get up from your desk to take a DUMP and when you are whackin' it

2019-07-12 04:17:56 UTC

I will give "concern" at the right word.

2019-07-12 04:18:28 UTC

It's not like the pentagon gets upset enough to take action over nothing.

2019-07-12 04:18:31 UTC

you disagree with the gov? they bring the hammer down on you

2019-07-12 04:18:55 UTC

pentagon is for dealing with forgein countries no domestic issues

2019-07-12 04:19:08 UTC

that USED to be the LAW.... then came the Patriot Act

2019-07-12 04:19:25 UTC


2019-07-12 04:20:21 UTC

Just keep in mind who might be allied to what side, involved or not.

2019-07-12 04:20:47 UTC

that is kinda why i STRONGLY disagree with calling 'incitement' which is just WORDS 'criminal'. This will ALWAYS destory free-speech as it violates the Blackstone Formaulation and enables 'victim culture'

2019-07-12 04:22:49 UTC

incitement is pretty clear dude

2019-07-12 04:22:53 UTC

people have faculty and it is teh ACTOR which commits the crime never the SPEAKER

2019-07-12 04:23:10 UTC

It's a crime because we don't want mobs being formed because some popular fuck doesn't like someone.

2019-07-12 04:23:11 UTC

it is NOW, since the damn post-modern harrasssment statutes were passed

2019-07-12 04:23:30 UTC

you don't understand the history of this country then

2019-07-12 04:23:39 UTC

that is what the post-modernist have told you

2019-07-12 04:23:51 UTC

Petty upset over someone pushing some radicals over the edge.

2019-07-12 04:23:54 UTC

you know what is worth incitement to violence though

2019-07-12 04:23:57 UTC

16 times the detail

2019-07-12 04:24:01 UTC

that is NOT the historical position according to US LAW

2019-07-12 04:24:04 UTC

"oh, a cute anime girl. I'm going to make this my profile pic"


2019-07-12 04:24:13 UTC

tsuyu is hot as fuck

2019-07-12 04:24:16 UTC


2019-07-12 04:24:20 UTC

and by hot

2019-07-12 04:24:22 UTC

so let me get this straight, if i have a decent following and i specifially tell people to go this person's address and commit crimes then i **shouldnt** be held accountable if some shithead actually does it?

2019-07-12 04:24:22 UTC

damn right she is

2019-07-12 04:24:23 UTC

i mean pretty

2019-07-12 04:24:25 UTC

cuz she's only like 15

2019-07-12 04:24:33 UTC

not a pedophile

2019-07-12 04:24:40 UTC

she is still best female in academy

2019-07-12 04:24:42 UTC

also she's cool

2019-07-12 04:24:52 UTC

she isnt a fucking retard like the other females there

2019-07-12 04:24:56 UTC

for now, but she'll be 16 soon and thats age of consent in canuckistan

2019-07-12 04:25:00 UTC


2019-07-12 04:25:04 UTC

who is the rich bitch that can make anything

2019-07-12 04:25:10 UTC

she's smart but retarded

2019-07-12 04:25:14 UTC

not 'upset' but alittle frustrated an alarmed no one sees the direct cause-effect of allowing the State to intervene with only 'incitement' and it's like to the presumption of innocence

2019-07-12 04:25:17 UTC

the only other non retard is the headphone girl

2019-07-12 04:25:21 UTC

you allow one, you lose the other

2019-07-12 04:25:22 UTC

she is actually not stupid

2019-07-12 04:25:25 UTC

kyoka jiro

2019-07-12 04:25:28 UTC

thats her name

2019-07-12 04:25:33 UTC

'those willing to sacrifice security for freedom....."

2019-07-12 04:25:33 UTC

it's been a while : P

2019-07-12 04:25:38 UTC

i dont know all the names

2019-07-12 04:25:40 UTC

or most of the names tbh

2019-07-12 04:25:42 UTC


2019-07-12 04:25:45 UTC

please stop posting about green crying naruto

2019-07-12 04:25:45 UTC

fucking casual

2019-07-12 04:25:48 UTC

Are you at fault for curing cancer if you get a decent following and one of the guys you told to do it actually does?

2019-07-12 04:26:22 UTC

there is no "fault" in non criminal action

2019-07-12 04:26:23 UTC

Or was it the guy who figured it out?

2019-07-12 04:26:24 UTC

who is 'not stupid'?

2019-07-12 04:26:40 UTC


2019-07-12 04:26:42 UTC

you are quite stupid

2019-07-12 04:26:46 UTC


2019-07-12 04:26:50 UTC

faco y dab

2019-07-12 04:26:53 UTC

me telling you to dab epic style is diferent from me telling you to kill some dude

2019-07-12 04:27:09 UTC

Fault, responsibility, pls.

2019-07-12 04:27:17 UTC

do you even UNDERSTAND the Blackwater Formulation?

2019-07-12 04:27:18 UTC

eu faรงo o dab

2019-07-12 04:27:31 UTC

Doesn't seem like you even follow the argument.

2019-07-12 04:27:45 UTC

But you ARE appealing to authority which is rather common these days

2019-07-12 04:28:38 UTC


2019-07-12 04:28:44 UTC

the Blackwater Formulation implies that the State will allow many more criminals to go free on a technicality rather than lock up a single innocent in the name of 'the greater good'

2019-07-12 04:29:39 UTC

therefore, as a consequence, women required a community of good men to insulate them from those 'bad men' which the State has released based on the 'presumption of innocence'

2019-07-12 04:31:08 UTC

the moment 'incitement' which is 'me speaking words ONLY without ACTION' can be actionable by the STATE, the State will begin trying to LEGISTLATE morality and will use that leverage to label any 'joke or critisizm' as ' threat'

2019-07-12 04:31:28 UTC

Makes sense so far

2019-07-12 04:31:57 UTC

So animal is fine with people whipping up a mob. Got it.

2019-07-12 04:32:22 UTC

we now live in a world where i could see two kids playing in the street and out of concern go to the mother and say, "You should REALLY get your kids out the street before then get hit by a car" and the woman will interpret this as, "This man is threatening to run my kids down wiith his car!"

2019-07-12 04:32:42 UTC

anyone can misisntpret a joke as a 'call to action'

2019-07-12 04:33:03 UTC

thats pretty stupid

2019-07-12 04:33:06 UTC

and the 'intent' isn't what qualifies something as 'incitement' only the INTERPRETATION

2019-07-12 04:33:14 UTC

whether intented that way or not

I have a real smortphone now

2019-07-12 04:33:42 UTC

@Ayylmao A person commanding someone to do something is not more or less responsible for the outcome simply because of a moral judgement on said outcome.

2019-07-12 04:33:44 UTC

No it's cut and clear if I say to kill or damage a property that's incitement.

2019-07-12 04:33:45 UTC

it was US law for almost a century

2019-07-12 04:33:53 UTC

youre intentionally overblowing a simple situation into some sort of weird extremely autistic scenario

2019-07-12 04:34:28 UTC

you are being naive and oversimplifying things assuming that people are more often like you, rational, rather than the opposite

2019-07-12 04:34:41 UTC

if you are lucky, you get a 50/50 mix

2019-07-12 04:34:56 UTC

That's because animal is probably autistic tbf to go though such mental gymnastics to justify incitement.

2019-07-12 04:35:00 UTC

but i digress

2019-07-12 04:35:13 UTC


2019-07-12 04:35:29 UTC

nope. but i HAVE been misinterpreted BY autistics before and got in trouble for it

2019-07-12 04:35:48 UTC

you'll learn, eventually..... ( if the left doesn't ruin everything first)

2019-07-12 04:35:52 UTC


2019-07-12 04:35:58 UTC

Sarcastic remarks exist, and so do things like dogwhistles and "the unknown" in general.

2019-07-12 04:36:36 UTC

Get some rest those gymnastics are tiring.

2019-07-12 04:36:42 UTC

A person decides to be a sheep.

2019-07-12 04:37:03 UTC

It depends on what youโ€™re specifically saying.

If you are say โ€œLadies and gentlemen, there is a *negro* outside, stealing your *bicycles! Thatโ€™s the fellow, over yonder! His name is Tyrone! Tyrone, weโ€™re coming for you, Tyrone! Quickly, ladies and gentlemen, accost that *negro*, Tyrone and weโ€™ll have a good old fashioned lynching!โ€
Obvious incitement. Been illegal for hundreds of years. Not protected speech. At all.

If, on the other hand, you were to say โ€œLadies and Gentlemen, if you look at these statistics, youโ€™ll clearly see that, as the *negro* population in a community rises, a proportionate rise in bicycle theft is observable.โ€
Thatโ€™s not incitement. Itโ€™s... kinda douche, and depending on the motivation of the speaker, probably racist, but itโ€™s not incitement.

2019-07-12 04:38:01 UTC

more importantly to me
it's quite funny

2019-07-12 04:38:30 UTC

The former has been, and rightly so, illegal forever.
The problem is that the *latter* is more and more being seen as synonymous with the former.

2019-07-12 04:38:35 UTC

>When you joke about crime but he brings up Black crime statistics

2019-07-12 04:38:57 UTC

*Winks at the camera*
Like AliG says, keep it real.

2019-07-12 04:39:17 UTC

tbh most jokes are just humorously phrased statistics

2019-07-12 04:39:44 UTC

>inb4 13do50

2019-07-12 04:39:47 UTC

*what's the deeeal with airline food*

2019-07-12 04:40:50 UTC

*Waves hands in a very Jewish fashion*
And how about daylight savings time? Whatโ€™s up with thaaaaat?

2019-07-12 04:41:45 UTC

The Jews are fine.
As are the blacks.
Race not important.
Only ideology important.

Cheers folks, gotta get back to work.

2019-07-12 04:42:23 UTC

did a vox employee look over your shoulder?

2019-07-12 04:45:58 UTC

Funny, I walk away for a moment and the conversation turns from space and the potential of mankind to free speech.

2019-07-12 04:47:13 UTC

Nah it was animal's autism flaring up.

2019-07-12 04:48:09 UTC

Hey guys can I get a quick opinion on something

2019-07-12 04:48:10 UTC

From my current MP stellaris game


2019-07-12 04:49:36 UTC

I need to know what you think of my cat


2019-07-12 04:52:31 UTC

It may have been, but I'm still gonna pat myself on the back as encouraging peaceful interaction towarda the improvement of mankind.

2019-07-12 04:52:33 UTC


2019-07-12 04:52:35 UTC


2019-07-12 04:53:53 UTC

@PhiloFusor the Omitted First class airline food is pretty decent. XD

2019-07-12 04:54:29 UTC

Had meatballs in marinara and spinach on the first flight. >.>

2019-07-12 04:54:50 UTC

@SageTheory. One more thing: The 'autism' that you speak of is what allows and continues to allow both Attorneys and the Left to run circles around you, being so few yet yielding so much influence. Of course, I understand that autistic interpretation IS a bit autistic but that IS the point. In the courtroom, the judge will ALWAYS follow LOGIC over common sense..... no matter how 'autistic' it might seem to the average person.

2019-07-12 04:56:02 UTC

Erm. "Nutty ninth" I wish I could agree. @ManAnimal

2019-07-12 04:56:34 UTC

Expecting the authorites to protect you from Antifa and not just look the other way when they have been given unchallenged power to do so... THAT is the true autism.

2019-07-12 04:57:04 UTC

And let's avoid talking about.. well Portland and even moreso the UK.

2019-07-12 04:57:24 UTC

UK holy shit

2019-07-12 04:57:27 UTC


2019-07-12 04:57:31 UTC

UK put tommy Robinson in jail

2019-07-12 04:57:56 UTC

really? (haven't heard anything in a good minute... been off the grid)

2019-07-12 04:58:11 UTC

Holy shit

2019-07-12 04:58:16 UTC

England has fallen to Islam

2019-07-12 04:58:17 UTC

I do agree about the intent of the justice systems though.

2019-07-12 04:58:39 UTC

Trump should have offered Tommy and his family asylum

2019-07-12 04:58:42 UTC

But it's increasingly failing on the matter of.. well...justice.

2019-07-12 04:58:57 UTC

Perhaps it is an extreme example, but in my view, that compartmentalization is the only way to keep the State honest

2019-07-12 04:59:12 UTC

Dude I don't even know what you're on about anymore you spergy cunt.

2019-07-12 04:59:24 UTC

It is, but the walls have failed.

2019-07-12 04:59:55 UTC

now, the State is seen as the ONLY authority rather than the State being secondary to parents, grandparents and community which would influence, deter and even punish you outside of the long arms of the law

2019-07-12 05:00:09 UTC


2019-07-12 05:00:20 UTC

An agreeable observation. @ManAnimal

2019-07-12 05:00:24 UTC

I mostly did this because people in another server kept trying to call me far-right, and I haven't done one of these in a while.

2019-07-12 05:00:42 UTC

@ManAnimal Are you suggesting that the state should parent children more than their parents do?

2019-07-12 05:00:54 UTC


2019-07-12 05:01:08 UTC

The United Caliphate of Al-England and Northern Ireland

2019-07-12 05:01:10 UTC


2019-07-12 05:01:19 UTC

It is that the State overrides the parents, the question is ought it be so?

2019-07-12 05:01:23 UTC

i am saying the EXACT opposite

2019-07-12 05:01:48 UTC

And I agree, that it ought *not* be so.

2019-07-12 05:01:53 UTC

that it is IMPORTANT to have a 'grey zone' that the community has juristiction over

2019-07-12 05:02:18 UTC


2019-07-12 05:02:25 UTC

yes, everyone is subject to the law, BUT if no one finds out.....

2019-07-12 05:03:00 UTC

the State needs to keep it's distance and that means a community must fill that void

2019-07-12 05:03:17 UTC

@ManAnimal the state shouldn't exist

2019-07-12 05:03:17 UTC

why can't the community have it's own laws

2019-07-12 05:03:19 UTC

if you don't have that community, the vaccum will be filled with the State

2019-07-12 05:03:24 UTC

that way it's offical

2019-07-12 05:03:32 UTC

I would caveat that the State is neccessary.

2019-07-12 05:03:35 UTC

and it's less potential for corruption

2019-07-12 05:03:57 UTC

fill the void with community specific laws

2019-07-12 05:03:58 UTC

because a community doesn't influence, reward nor enforce with 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:04:05 UTC

that statment misses the point

2019-07-12 05:04:11 UTC

LAW is explict

2019-07-12 05:04:15 UTC

why can't it?

2019-07-12 05:04:16 UTC

ETHICS is implict

2019-07-12 05:04:26 UTC

Ethics are the basis for the laws

2019-07-12 05:04:31 UTC

Community deals which ethics

2019-07-12 05:04:40 UTC

Anyway be home in about 30 mikes..don't burn the server down in my absence.

2019-07-12 05:04:41 UTC

the State deals with laws

2019-07-12 05:04:52 UTC

these are totally different mechanism

2019-07-12 05:04:52 UTC

I think your conception of "community" is flawed

2019-07-12 05:05:07 UTC

I'm talking a group of individuals within a certain area

2019-07-12 05:05:08 UTC

i can remember when we HAD 'community'

2019-07-12 05:05:10 UTC

@Laucivol the state is not neccessary

2019-07-12 05:05:10 UTC

small scale

2019-07-12 05:05:21 UTC

(Also, stop boosting my ego. It's not helpful.)

2019-07-12 05:05:21 UTC

whereas the state is a larger governing body

2019-07-12 05:05:24 UTC

i am not so sure your grasp what i am refering to

2019-07-12 05:05:32 UTC

you see to assume the "community" is the people

2019-07-12 05:05:36 UTC

and the state is seperate

2019-07-12 05:05:45 UTC

in the USA, we were ALWAYS defined by acceptance of certain core VALUES

2019-07-12 05:06:10 UTC

community enforced these values and ridiculed those that didn't respect them

2019-07-12 05:06:34 UTC

I'm saying you are missusing terms and my misunderstanding comes from his missuse

2019-07-12 05:06:51 UTC

today, the mechanism of social ridcule has been hijacked

2019-07-12 05:06:57 UTC

when you say "community" it appears to be that you are talking about the people

2019-07-12 05:06:59 UTC

there is not community

2019-07-12 05:07:06 UTC

and the state keeps filling the void

2019-07-12 05:07:12 UTC

not a hypothetical community

2019-07-12 05:07:19 UTC

But a concept of the people as a collective

2019-07-12 05:07:23 UTC

which is wrong

2019-07-12 05:07:40 UTC

don't talk to me if you are going to be a post-modernist

2019-07-12 05:07:48 UTC

I'm not

2019-07-12 05:07:54 UTC

yes, it is a concept which i labeled 'community'

2019-07-12 05:08:02 UTC

is the the proper label? perhaps not

2019-07-12 05:08:05 UTC

I'm saying that your miss use of the terms is creating issues with my understanding

2019-07-12 05:08:09 UTC

that doesn't invalidate the concept

2019-07-12 05:08:15 UTC

just the label

2019-07-12 05:08:20 UTC

Well the concept is flawed

2019-07-12 05:08:24 UTC

as well

2019-07-12 05:08:29 UTC

but the post-modernist can't see past superfical labels

2019-07-12 05:08:34 UTC

indeed we must have decentralized communties that makes their own laws, if we can achive this the state becomes unneccessary

2019-07-12 05:08:35 UTC

which are you?

2019-07-12 05:08:45 UTC

The state should exist just shouldn't intervene in domestic affairs as it does.

2019-07-12 05:08:50 UTC

not 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:08:51 UTC

and your miss use of the terms is hiding the fact that it is a flawed concept

2019-07-12 05:08:55 UTC

we have the state for that

2019-07-12 05:09:10 UTC

@SageTheory no it shouldn't exist at all

2019-07-12 05:09:15 UTC

besides, 98% of life happens BEYOND the 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:09:22 UTC

I can't explain why your concept is wrong without explaining that the terms you use are wrong

2019-07-12 05:09:37 UTC

because if I didn't I'd have no way to explain why your concept is wrong

2019-07-12 05:09:37 UTC

you don't learn killing is wrong because someone breaks the law and the state punishes you

2019-07-12 05:09:53 UTC

How are we gonna go to war if we donโ€™t have a state

2019-07-12 05:09:54 UTC

Lol sorry ancap Utopia is retarded humans aren't built that way.

2019-07-12 05:10:25 UTC

the community influences people to follow certain social norms that are aligned with the 'law' because law takes it's cue from community precedence

2019-07-12 05:10:32 UTC

Humans are social creatures, so they'll inevitably create some sort of community.

2019-07-12 05:10:34 UTC

ancap utopia existed

2019-07-12 05:10:37 UTC

it was called kowloon walled city

2019-07-12 05:10:41 UTC

and it was pretty ebic

2019-07-12 05:10:45 UTC

@SageTheory AnCaps don't claim there way of doing things is "Utopia" retard

2019-07-12 05:10:49 UTC

You have head cannoned this out of thin air, there is so much spaghetti in your statements @ManAnimal

2019-07-12 05:10:58 UTC

sigh* if this is going to be an 'ancap argument' that is whole other argument

2019-07-12 05:11:05 UTC

@Terry Arcona Well their ideal is utopian

2019-07-12 05:11:07 UTC


2019-07-12 05:11:18 UTC

no, this was the way it was in the day of my PARENTS and GRANDPARENTS

2019-07-12 05:11:24 UTC


2019-07-12 05:11:26 UTC

How are we gonna have a Military without a state

2019-07-12 05:11:27 UTC

@Muten not really, it's pretty practical if you really read up on it

2019-07-12 05:11:36 UTC


2019-07-12 05:11:43 UTC

Look if you can't explain it to a layman

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